MegaWorks
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lol he could just be a fanboy... but here's another quote from him..
http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-49806-1-1.html
Come! Tell him to join us, we could use more fanboys. :sneaky:
lol he could just be a fanboy... but here's another quote from him..
http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-49806-1-1.html
Typing pl0x should be grounds for internet privileges being revoked
No seriously, I don't think anyone older than 13 types nonsense like this :thumbsup:
you guys have way too much time on your hands.
I don't game on consoles because I like to tinker. I'm not a set it and forget it type of guy.
Same, I love to tinker and build computers. I have tried to game on consoles, mostly for NCAA Football, but the graphics are just so bad on consoles.
I think this is a generation of refinement.
I don't game on consoles because I like to tinker. I'm not a set it and forget it type of guy.
Not terribly surprised. JHH has said that raising prices is "bad mojo," in the past. And NVDA almost always asks for a price premium when they think they can get away with it. So it sounds like NVDA will play it safe and price the GTX 680 at ~$550 (maybe a bit more or less, depending on how badly NVDA wants to win back market share, and depending on how well the GTX 680 stacks up against the 7970 in all aspects, including VRAM, feature set, power draw, temperatures, noise, etc.). If it doesn't sell well, NVDA can simply lower the price.
These prices for AMD and NVDA 28nm GPUs barely move the needle on price/perf, compared to the last couple of generations at launch, even factoring in the extra VRAM. On the bright side, though, most games don't really push graphics that hard, so most people can simply sit this round out unless they have super-high resolutions or 120Hz/3D panels or something. And even those people cold probably turn down settings a bit and do okay with last-generation cards, if necessary.
If the charge $500 for GK104 for GTX580 +30-40% performance, they will face the same shitstorm as AMD. At least from me
Their memory controller problem is another story.
Everything about the card screams mid range to me, 32 ROPs, 256 bus, performance.
If it trades blows with the 7970 it's less than 13% faster than the 580 at 1200p in DX11, and if it's less than 13% faster, this is the first time in forever I can remember Nvidia releasing a flagship gpu that is less than 13% faster than their last gen flagship.
What it does remind me of though, is mid range card vs last gens flagship.
For instance, GTX 460 vs GTX 280:
Or GTX 560 TI vs GTX 285, which opened the gap up even larger between last gen high end refresh vs current gen mid range refresh.
Call me crazy though.
I think I'm going to try for an AMD card next time I buy something,
but I'll probably be skipping 28nm.
You memory apparently isn't very good. 9800gtx vs 8800 ultra. Even vs the 8800gtx it wasn't that much of an improvement.
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
I met literally everyone there, including the EU and APAC press. Unless he was invisible or hiding really, really well, he wasn't among the crowd. (referring to OBR)
ROLLO REPLY ::
This isn't true. I was in the front row, even asked a question. (the one about water cooling) I was drinking beer with friends in the back room at the pre-event party. I had lunch with 4 guys from NV at the lowest level of tables at the chicken/pasta lunch. The only thing I skipped was the dinner the second night, because I was beat from the last two days and wanted to get to bed early before my 12 hour travel day yesterday.
And Sky, I'm about 6'5" and go over 3 bills in my post weight lifter middle aged slide. I can't exactly "hide". Would have been a pleasure to meet you, but there were a lot of people there. I couldn't have met them all if I tried. (although as you're at all of these I can see how you'd know most of those people- I'm sure it's the same crew every time unless a fringe guy like me opts to attend)
Or GTX 560 TI vs GTX 285, which opened the gap up even larger between last gen high end refresh vs current gen mid range refresh..
Umm isn't that two generations apart?
Not really 4xx to 5xx was a refresh.
The clock for clock/core for core performance of GF100 and GF110 were pretty much unchanged.
Ahh ok, reason I asked is I'm still rocking a GTX285 and haven't really followed graphics cards for quite awhile. I forgot about nvidia's whole tick-tock thing though.
Over here in Germany the 580s and 570 are getting cheaper considerably. 580 for 340 Euros, 580 3GB for 400. 570 for 250. Kepler is close