F#CK THE BCS.......GO TO A NCAA PLAYOFF

N8Magic

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BYU isn't even in the top 20?

<---- not familiar with college football rankings.
 

Farbio

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well, what will really screw the bcs is if miami loses to nebraska, because the ap could crown the winner of the colorado/oregon game as the number one as well as the bcs champ...exactly what the bcs was created to avoid
 

Hamburgerpimp

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The only thing that will solve anything is a playoff system. Hell, they do it in Basketball, Baseball and a host of the other 17 NCAA sports. The only reason is the Sponsors for the bowl games. It's the ONLY reason.
 

warlord

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Hamburgerpimp

Place both of your hands on your ass and pull hard. maybe you will be able to pull your head out of it. Sponsors are not the only reason there is not a playoff system.

At least Nebraska didn't get beat by an unranked team at home, then loose by 35. Colorado is good, but they still have two losses. The reason the BCS was created was to take some of the politics out of the championship. And politics certainly did NOT put Nebraska in the Rose Bowl, other wise the coachs would not have bumped Colorado above Nebraska.
 

MadRat

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The BCS system has its flaws. Nebraska (hurrah!) made the title game this year over two other (Oregon and Colorado) deserving teams. Almost every fan really wants a Dv1 football playoff. The players mostly want it. The media surely wants it. The universities somewhat have toyed with it. Its just time to start considering the potential of a playoff system and how to do the games fairly.

I propose this playoff:

1. 10-game regular seasons; more than enough for perrenial losers!

2. Allow for UP TO a two-game conference championship, regulated by the conferences.

3. Give the other teams above .500 an eleventh game through some NIT lottery system.

4A. An "Elite 8" field is chosen for the "Run to the National Championship". Selections done by a computer ranking similar to the current BCS selection system.*

4B. "Minor Bowl" invitations go out to sixteen (or maybe twenty) >.500 record teams that do not make "Run to the National Championship".

5. The "Run to the National Championship" playoffs hosted in select regional cities. If a nearby team is in the tourney then they can play their game in that city ONLY if they have more power points, else a national committee decides the location among available hosts.

6. The "National Championship" game played in a neutral city that bids for the game (versus the current BCS system) in order to maximize revenue.

* = NOTE: Allow teams to bypass potential bids for the "Race for the National Championship" in order to play in select "Minor Bowl" games. This allows teams that know they cannot win the tourney still play big dollar bowl matchups.

At best you have a 15-game season for two teams. The rest of the teams garner their normal eleven games. Twenty-four to twenty-eight teams make post-season play beyond the 1-game NIT matchups. With this system the perrenial losers get to go home early, mediocre winners get to play in minor Bowl Games, and the "top dogs" get their day in the sun.

This year it would have looked like this:

First Round
1. MIAMI (11-0; BigEAST Champ) vs. 8. ILLINOIS (10-1; Big10 Champ)
2. NEBRASKA (11-1) vs. 7. TEXAS (10-2)
3. COLORADO (10-2; Big12 Champ) vs. 6. TENNESSEE (10-2)
4. OREGON (10-1; Pac10 Champ) vs. 5. FLORIDA (9-2)

Minor bowl qualifiers would have been:

Stanford (9-2), Maryland (10-1; ACC Champ), Oklahoma (9-2), Washington State (9-2), LSU (9-3; SEC Champ), South Carolina (8-3), Washington (8-3), Virginia Tech (8-3), Georgia (8-3), Michigan (8-3), Syracuse (9-3), BYU (12-1; MountainWest Champ), Fresno State (11-2), Ohio State (7-4), Lousville (10-2; ConfUSA Champ), Florida State (7-4), Toledo (10-2; MAC Champ), Hawaii (9-3), North Carolina State (7-4), Auburn (7-4), Arkansas (7-4), Marshall (10-2), Boston College (7-4), and Georgia Tech (7-5).

The losers (that have bowl games this year) in my system:

North Texas (5-6), Colorado State (6-5), East Carolina (6-5), Pittsburgh (6-5), Utah (7-4), USC (6-5), Iowa State (7-4), Alabama (6-5), Texas A&M (7-4), TCU (6-5), Concinnati (7-4), Texas Tech (7-4), Iowa (6-5), Kansas State (9-2), Louisiana Tech (7-4; WAC Champ), Clemson (6-5), Purdue (6-5), Michigan State (6-5), and North Carolina (7-5).

We have a really watered down 2002 Bowl Season because too many terrible teams made it. Its so bad that teams are being asked to PAY TO PLAY the bowl games! That means we have too many of them. By making them a little less common we make them more valuable, increasing the chance of revenue generation. By no means does any team deserve to play a bowl game if they lose money. That is just nonsense. ;P

Lets hear some other ideas........
 

Tates

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Looks like Oregon will have to defend the honor of the Pac-10. Just like it did last year in the Holiday Bowl.

And, let me guess...MadRat you're from Nebraska
 

Presence

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Yah this really sucks. Colorado got robbed in my opinion. Hell I wouldve chose Oregan over nebraska. I had a feeling Nebrask would sneak in though. This BCS is crap....
 

b0mbrman

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Now, if Nebraska beats Miami unimpressively and Oregon or Colorado spanks the other, who is the national champion?
 

Tates

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<< Now, if Nebraska beats Miami unimpressively and Oregon or Colorado spanks the other, who is the national champion? >>



My vote would go to the Fiesta Bowl Victor...

But of course........... I'm from Oregon
 

TuffGuy

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you guys are forgetting something. when a team goes to a bowl game, it gets $$$. if you were to go to a playoff system, the teams that win would get a lot of $$$ and therefor their athletics department would benefit A LOT more.

how would you solve the $$$ problems created by a playoff system? this IS NOT the nfl.
 

Tates

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<< how would you solve the $$$ problems created by a playoff system? this IS NOT the nfl. >>



Therein lies the rub....
 

NeoV

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Tuff, Bowl teams give a portion of the $$ they get for going to a bowl game to their conference per NCAA rules, why is this a problem


Colorado or Oregon deserve to play Miami, not Nebraska...I would pick Colorado, but I wouldn't mind if Oregon went either...

You can't lose your last game 62-36 and be the 2nd best team in the country, not when the team that beat you isn't the #1 team anyway....


I think Miami will win anyway, but Nebraska will have absolutely no pressure on them at all.....


This is total crap....
 

punkrawket

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<< << BYU isn't even in the top 20?>>



BYU was crushed my Hawaii on Saturday
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BYU was undefeated until Hawaii, but snuffed by the BCS because of the people they played against, and how much they scored. BYU didn't play "hard" teams, let alone beat their opponents by much.
 

TuffGuy

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like you said, they give a PORTION to THEIR conference. are there any dominant conferences that come to mind?

also, teams that win in the playoffs would get a purse from EVERY game they play in. their (and their conference's) purse would get larger and larger.

weak conference teams would be screwed. BIG TIME.
 

Ne0

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Just leave everything the way it is, but add a 4 way playoff for the 4 winners of the 4 BCS bowls. That way the schools can be happy with the $$$ and we have a more clear-cut winner.
 

Hamburgerpimp

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Place both of your hands on your ass and pull hard. maybe you will be able to pull your head out of it. Sponsors are not the only reason there is not a playoff system.

You have a lot to learn about NCAA Athletics. It's ALL about Money, Funding, etc. Same goes for Academics for State Funding and Government Grants. Wake up and walk out of Fantasy Land. You play Fantasy Football too?
 

MadRat

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<<Just leave everything the way it is, but add a 4 way playoff for the 4 winners of the 4 BCS bowls. That way the schools can be happy with the $$$ and we have a more clear-cut winner.>>

Ne0-

Eight team playoffs are better. Not only that but almost one-third of the bowl games will cost more to play then the revenue they generate. This is sickening in the day of a sour economy. The NCAA should be alot more conservative in how they spend the money from these programs and conferences. "Fewer games but with more importance" is a good formula to make the playoff system work.
 

UFGator

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What you guys fail to realize is, teams will spend more in TRAVEL alone to get to the bowl game...than the bowl game pays out.

So basically the bowl game is paying for like 90% of their travel.
 

warlord

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you certainly proved my point that your head is up your ass.

Re-read my post, I didn't say it wasn't all about money, the sponsors aren't the ones stopping a playoff system, you apparently are very new to the college scene since you don't know why the BCS was the chosen system for college football.
 

pecel

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BCS always end up in controversy
but it looks like going to be a good game between Nebraska vs. Miami.
How's 2 Heismann candidate (Crouch is the winner) play like last year when Oklahoma beat FSU

Go Sooners !!!
 
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