F.E.A.R. = choppy

ascarytiger

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So even with my 7800GT fear is still really choppy. Plus it doesnt have 1280x1024 for my LCD. What are the optimal settings in fear with my system:

A64 3200+ venice (stock)
eVGA 7800GT CO ed
1 gig corsair
WD raptor

Personally the game doesnt look any better than HL2, but it would be a lot better if it was less choppy.
 

w00t

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Originally posted by: ascarytiger
So even with my 7800GT fear is still really choppy. Plus it doesnt have 1280x1024 for my LCD. What are the optimal settings in fear with my system:

A64 3200+ venice (stock)
eVGA 7800GT CO ed
1 gig corsair
WD raptor

Personally the game doesnt look any better than HL2, but it would be a lot better if it was less choppy.


"C:\Program Files\Sierra\FEAR MP Demo\FEARMPDemo.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024"

your target for your FEAR icon should look like that without the demo part basically your adding

" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +szx 1280 +szy 1024"
 

Killrose

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I just got this game for X-mas. Played the demo at 1280x960 with details cranked and it was pretty choppy with my 6800U and BartonM@2.4gig and 1gig mem., I'm hoping I can at least do 1024x768 with everything cranked and at leat 2xAA / 8xAF.

Did you defrag you HD?
 

lavaheadache

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I have no problems running fear at 1680x1050 NoAA and 2xAF everything else maxed soft shadows off. I get minimum of 38 fps and ave of 60.
 

DragonFire

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Originally posted by: Cooler
Get that 7800GT in SLI it should help alot.

That would be a total waste. An A64 3200+ is already a bottleneck for a 7800 and having to will make that bottleneck worse.

ascarytiger, if I was you I would see about upgrading the 3200+ or upgrading to 2GB of ram and for those that say you don't need 2GB of ram, I have seen BF2 take up 1.3GB and FEAR take up 800MB and those doesn't count the pagefile usage.

I play at 1280x1024 (LCD's max) everything MAX, soft shadows on, 2XAA, 16xAF and get around 60-140FPS depending on the area, even the video test puts me at 100% over 60FPS

My Specs:
Opteron148@3GHz
7800GT @ stock
2GB ram

The biggest problem with so many having such problems with games like FEAR, BF@, HL2 is they don't have a balanced system. They either don't have enough ram, there cpu is to slow and the video card ends up waiting on it or there video card is to slow and can't keep up with the cpu causing it to wait.
 

KBTuning

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i have the same kinda problem but i can fix it w/ another gig of ram...

3000+,1.8GHz, winchester, 512k cache, at 2.3Ghz and 1Gb RAM plus X800GTO2 at 16 pipes and 525/600 gets 18% between 25-40 and teh rest over 40 w/ computer on MAX and gfx on High......

but i still get choppy in single player
 

Dethfrumbelo

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The game just isn't coded well.

Drop textures a notch, turn off soft shadows, and drop to 2xAA.

You can probably blow through it in less than 10 hours and you'll never play it again after that.
 

KBTuning

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screw the single player... MP is where its at

btw if you see Roadcone.Tuning thats me... ill be sniping you w/ the HV 10mm
 

BFG10K

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If you turn off all shadows but leave everything else at maximum you should be able to run at 1280x960 without too much trouble.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: DragonFire
Originally posted by: Cooler
Get that 7800GT in SLI it should help alot.

That would be a total waste. An A64 3200+ is already a bottleneck for a 7800 and having to will make that bottleneck worse.

ascarytiger, if I was you I would see about upgrading the 3200+ or upgrading to 2GB of ram and for those that say you don't need 2GB of ram, I have seen BF2 take up 1.3GB and FEAR take up 800MB and those doesn't count the pagefile usage.

I play at 1280x1024 (LCD's max) everything MAX, soft shadows on, 2XAA, 16xAF and get around 60-140FPS depending on the area, even the video test puts me at 100% over 60FPS

My Specs:
Opteron148@3GHz
7800GT @ stock
2GB ram

The biggest problem with so many having such problems with games like FEAR, BF@, HL2 is they don't have a balanced system. They either don't have enough ram, there cpu is to slow and the video card ends up waiting on it or there video card is to slow and can't keep up with the cpu causing it to wait.

FEAR is a lot more gpu intensive than most other games, so even a 7800gtx will not be bottlenecked by a A64 3200 when the eye candy is maxed out. I played around with the various settings in the MP demo, and turning the cpu details like particles, shell casings, and physics from max to min made almost no difference in fps when the graphics settings were maxed out. But setting the gfx details from max to medium makes a big difference - even if you keep the resolution the same. For example, at 1280x960 4x8x everything max I get about 40fps average and the min is about 20. Setting the gfx options to medium keeps the minimum fps around 40, and the average is a lot higher.
 

DragonFire

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munky, I do believe Anand has an article somewhere saying that even a FX-55 is a bottleneck for two 6800's. The game might depend on gpu power but a 3200+ can only pump out so much info to such a poweful gpu such as a 7800 that the cpu holds back the gpu.
 

0roo0roo

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meh its def better looking than hl2, just notice the dynamic lighting. hl2 is jsut cheats. and yea its ur gpu settings not cpu. dynamic lighting is highly stressful. they talk about it in the directors edition a bit
 

Elfear

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I don't think it's your cpu. I was curious after reading this post and decided to run a couple benchmarks of FEAR to see how much difference the cpu made. I got a 2fps difference going from 2.2GHz to 2.95GHz with the cards@550/1300. No cpu bottleneck.

OP- I'd try 1280x1024 with max settings, SS off, 2AA or 0AA, and 8AF and see how it runs.
 

rstrohkirch

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Originally posted by: DragonFire
munky, I do believe Anand has an article somewhere saying that even a FX-55 is a bottleneck for two 6800's. The game might depend on gpu power but a 3200+ can only pump out so much info to such a poweful gpu such as a 7800 that the cpu holds back the gpu.

50% higher frame rate from 7800gt to sli 7800gt in fear in the 12+ resolutions

Plenty of benchmarks that take less then 10 seconds to look up on this site
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: DragonFire
munky, I do believe Anand has an article somewhere saying that even a FX-55 is a bottleneck for two 6800's. The game might depend on gpu power but a 3200+ can only pump out so much info to such a poweful gpu such as a 7800 that the cpu holds back the gpu.


A faster processor will not help a bit in a game like FEAR.

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DragonFire

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: DragonFire
munky, I do believe Anand has an article somewhere saying that even a FX-55 is a bottleneck for two 6800's. The game might depend on gpu power but a 3200+ can only pump out so much info to such a poweful gpu such as a 7800 that the cpu holds back the gpu.


A faster processor will not help a bit in a game like FEAR.

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Your missing the point, I didn't say a faster cpu would make the game run faster. I said a anthing as slow as a 3200+ would be a bottleneck for an SLI setup.
 
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turn softshadows off .... they are baddly done

use 2xAA

or get SLI, my 7800GT SLI cuts through FEAR like a hot knife....max everything, no soft shadows, 2xSSTRAA 16xAF 1280x1024

1Gig is also your problem, mine was choppy with 1Gig.......2Gigs is smooth
 
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Originally posted by: DragonFire
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: DragonFire
munky, I do believe Anand has an article somewhere saying that even a FX-55 is a bottleneck for two 6800's. The game might depend on gpu power but a 3200+ can only pump out so much info to such a poweful gpu such as a 7800 that the cpu holds back the gpu.


A faster processor will not help a bit in a game like FEAR.

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Your missing the point, I didn't say a faster cpu would make the game run faster. I said a anthing as slow as a 3200+ would be a bottleneck for an SLI setup.


my 3200@ 2.5Ghz is still a bottle neck for my SLI set up....i dont think theres much escaping from it.
 

raz3000

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I turn soft shadows off with my 6800GT. The environments and textures are bland, but they need to be beause they're programmed to be destructible (especially the walls).
 

DragonFire

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
turn softshadows off .... they are baddly done

use 2xAA

or get SLI, my 7800GT SLI cuts through FEAR like a hot knife....max everything, no soft shadows, 2xSSTRAA 16xAF 1280x1024

1Gig is also your problem, mine was choppy with 1Gig.......2Gigs is smooth

And my single 7800GT cuts thru it as well with max everything, 4XAA, 16xAF, with soft shadows on at 1280x1024, so whats the points of having SLI then?

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
my 3200@ 2.5Ghz is still a bottle neck for my SLI set up....i dont think theres much escaping from it.
yup, this is why I think SLI is a waste. Unless you have a FX-57/60 or an Opteron that overclocks likes mad you end up with a setup that is being held back. I'll admit that SLI does offer a performance boost but at the price you have to pay for it I want a setup that can be used to it's max anf give me every last FPS the SLI cards can give something that won't happen without a top of line cpu.

 

Munky

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You dont need a top of the line cpu, all you need is a display with a 1600x1200 or greater resolution. Then you will easily see the benefits of dual cards.
 
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