F.E.A.R. & Quake 4 Thread

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Mar 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: IvanAndreevich
I installed the game and my texture quality is CRAP. It's set to quality within the driver and I tried installing a few different drivers already. What's going on? It's a single GTX now running the latest official beta.

http://img431.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quake4craptextures6qn.jpg

I agree that Q4's texture quality is crap (or at least, not nearly as good as it "should" be), but mine doesn't look nearly as bad as that screenshot...
 
Oct 18, 2003
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ivanandreevich.deviantart.com
Yes, the same game installed on my buddy's 7800GTX SLI rig looks infinitely better in the TEXTURE department.

Damn it, I hoped somebody has encountered a similar problem. I hate it when I BUY the game and spend time researching how to make it WORK properly.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

That "real" science you are referring too is theory. Intelligent Design, which is what you are attacking is real science every bit as much as the darwin theory. The simple fact is this: Nothing can exist today if something didn't always exist. Can something come from nothing? No, it has to have a cause. If there was ever a time that there were absolutely nothingness, nothing could be here today. Therefore if something is here today, something always had to be. (ponder that) That "something" is what some people will call God, others will call it a higher power and even yet some will call it Aliens or something like that. Intelligent Design has its roots in science and logic. We were no doubt created, but the question is, by who or by what?

Secondly, a good simple question to end the attack on Intelligent Design (which over 400 major scientists have signed) is the fact that we do not know "everything". Since we do not know everything, we cannot rule out a creator like many people would like. It is very unscientific to say that God didn't create us and therefore we no longer need to study to see if it is true. Yet much of the scientific community will do such.

Lets look at the facts, not our own bias. Bring me the facts to prove that there is no God or intelligent creator. When you do, I will declare that there is on creator. But, being that I know you could never provide the evidence, I am comfortable with my believe that we were created by something.

Read up on it, you need to know what you are going to be refuting.

Intelligent Design Network

If you want to discuss more, take this to PM's.

Getting back to the issue at hand, Terra, glad you were able to serve in the Army of your nation and the UN. I do have respect for such a thing now that you have provided evidence of being such. Problem is anyone can claim anything, so unless someone proves something, I pretty much do not believe it. I am sure you can understand... I mean, what if I claimed to be a Navy Seal? Pretty silly, could be true, but could not be. I actually knew a seal, retired and he scared the crap outa me.. Nice guy though.

Intelligent design is an interesting recent theory, but it may be making a mountain out of a molehill ultimately. I haven't thought enough about it yet, but the thought that an intelligent cause better reflects the world than another explanation (eg evolution) I feel is one of those human projections onto the world: we believe the great beauty, diversity and complexity in the world to be so incredible that it couldn't possibly be by accident. We see amazing things that couldn't possibly be coincidence: eg. a nautilis shell, with its sections each divided in the golden ratio, as well as other amazing mathematical coincides such as this, and some people automatically gravitate towards intelligent design, because the idea is: how could nature possibly be so perfectly organized. It couldn't possibly be by accident, could it?

Because when it all comes down to it, Darwin's theory is all about accidents: traits passed on because they have a statistical probability to allow the organism a greater chance to live and to thrive.

I do agree that mathematics is the language the universe is written in, but I certainly do not take intelligent design as a given. Just because something is structured in a certain way doesn't mean it implies an all-powerful creator. Just because mathematical conventions can accurately predict or describe nature also doesn't imply intelligent design.

Is the ratio of a nautilis shell's segments any more incredible then being able to predict the weather tomorrow or any other type of calculation based on empirical evidence?

In my humble opinion (and I haven't had enough years to develop my own philosophy, so bear with me), theories such as intelligent design are just another evolution of our "desire to believe." In fatally cynical terms, intelligent design is religion for the 20th century.

An interesting concept is the "belief machine" - that humans are nothing more than a self preserving system that constructs beliefs out of its experience.

I'll just end the discussion here for now, but suffice to say that I find intelligent design (when you capitalized it, did you realize the irony that you were referring to it like God is in religion and even philosophy texts?) to be a theory lacking real substantive proof.

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Back on topic: I don't know if it's just me, but I find Quake 4 to be extremely boring. The gameplay is seriously dated - it makes Halo 1 seem like a huge leap forward!
 

Dodge3r

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Nov 7, 2005
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Thanks for that jiffylube1024.

Yes, the same game installed on my buddy's 7800GTX SLI rig looks infinitely better in the TEXTURE department.

Possibly you have missing or corrupt textures?? It might than automatically switch to lower ones??

I have seen Quake 4 on a friends Pc and it look fine texture wise, maybe u could borrow ur friends CD and install it with your key it might be worth a try.
 

gac009

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IvanAndreevich: go into your config file and check and make sure that the correct video ram size is entered where the question marks are then reset everthing on high.

seta com_videoRam "???"
seta image_downSize "0" < make sure its a zero and not a one.

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: TerracideDK
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: nitromullet
So, where is everyone getting their copies from, aside from those of you that know someone...? Are any stores selling either FEAR or Q4 yet?

Some are, yeah. They're supposed to hold off until tomorrow, but there have been certain stores accidentally selling them early. Apparently they got them in on the weekend or last week sometime, but are supposed to hold off until the release date.

Originally posted by: Ackmed
F.E.A.R. is great. Except for the overboard cussing. I dont notice any better frames than in the demo though. Hopefully someone will do a review and benches, such as FS.

There is no way Im buying Q4 without playing it first. I got duped into Doom3, and was very disappointed.

What's wrong with cussing, including a liberal use of the F word? Wouldn't you probably be talking like that if some super-fast ghosts were trying to kill you?


When they cuss more in the game than in horror movies, then I have to say it is overboard. Even the demo cussed a bit... Whatever the case, I wish there was a way to censor it.

You run around killing people, but complain over cussing? :roll:
In Europe we look at it differently.
You can't buy a gun, but you can swear on TV.
Words don't kill, guns kill.
And before you try and call me a "pacifist", a served 2½ years in the Danish Army Recon and have had 2 tours as UN-soldier.
I am simply just baffeld over your statement...

Terra - This must be a (religious?)difference between US and Europe for sure

hate to tell ya this, but guns don't kill either. people kill. a gun can't kill you unless there is some kidn of interaction with it. same with a knife, a baseball bat, or a shoelace.

i'd have to say words do kill. or should i say words make people kill? how many times have you heard of a kid shooting up his school because he was picked on or outcast? how many wars have been fought because someone says their way or their god is better?
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: TerracideDK
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Originally posted by: nitromullet
So, where is everyone getting their copies from, aside from those of you that know someone...? Are any stores selling either FEAR or Q4 yet?

Some are, yeah. They're supposed to hold off until tomorrow, but there have been certain stores accidentally selling them early. Apparently they got them in on the weekend or last week sometime, but are supposed to hold off until the release date.

Originally posted by: Ackmed
F.E.A.R. is great. Except for the overboard cussing. I dont notice any better frames than in the demo though. Hopefully someone will do a review and benches, such as FS.

There is no way Im buying Q4 without playing it first. I got duped into Doom3, and was very disappointed.

What's wrong with cussing, including a liberal use of the F word? Wouldn't you probably be talking like that if some super-fast ghosts were trying to kill you?


When they cuss more in the game than in horror movies, then I have to say it is overboard. Even the demo cussed a bit... Whatever the case, I wish there was a way to censor it.

You run around killing people, but complain over cussing? :roll:
In Europe we look at it differently.
You can't buy a gun, but you can swear on TV.
Words don't kill, guns kill.
And before you try and call me a "pacifist", a served 2½ years in the Danish Army Recon and have had 2 tours as UN-soldier.
I am simply just baffeld over your statement...

Terra - This must be a (religious?)difference between US and Europe for sure

hate to tell ya this, but guns don't kill either. people kill. a gun can't kill you unless there is some kidn of interaction with it. same with a knife, a baseball bat, or a shoelace.

i'd have to say words do kill. or should i say words make people kill? how many times have you heard of a kid shooting up his school because he was picked on or outcast? how many wars have been fought because someone says their way or their god is better?

I agree with this statement. Words are very powerful and can be full of evil or good. The old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" is about as far from the truth as you can get. For instance, a racial slur can send people into a riot... Words are more powerful than people realize.

 

gac009

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A racial slur in the US is actually a hate crime. You will get in trouble if you offend someone and if you make a slur in my store you will be asked to leave.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: gac009
A racial slur in the US is actually a hate crime. You will get in trouble if you offend someone and if you make a slur in my store you will be asked to leave.

I find racial slurs to be totally pointless. Why even bother insulting people based on this criteria... it's nonsensical!

I just don't get people sometimes when they play race up so much. I personally don't find race to be that big of an issue - I couldn't care less what race my friends are...

It especially confuses me when people thing of a certain race as 'good' or 'bad' . Are we not all people?
 
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