Originally posted by: TerracideDK
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
LOL Terra took Archangels quote and used Cheesetogo's name. Anyway, don't blame all of the US for seeming like it's citizens have a stick up their ass. We've recently (last 4 yrs) become overrun with overzealous Christians that want to substitute real science for "creationism" and they believe their mythical lord Jesus should rule our lives. Fortunately they only constitute a little over 50% of the popular vote but they are spread out all over the place.
That "real" science you are referring too is theory. Intelligent Design, which is what you are attacking is real science every bit as much as the darwin theory. The simple fact is this: Nothing can exist today if something didn't always exist. Can something come from nothing? No, it has to have a cause. If there was ever a time that there were absolutely nothingness, nothing could be here today. Therefore if something is here today, something always had to be. (ponder that) That "something" is what some people will call God, others will call it a higher power and even yet some will call it Aliens or something like that. Intelligent Design has its roots in science and logic. We were no doubt created, but the question is, by who or by what?
Secondly, a good simple question to end the attack on Intelligent Design (which over 400 major scientists have signed) is the fact that we do not know "everything". Since we do not know everything, we cannot rule out a creator like many people would like. It is very unscientific to say that God didn't create us and therefore we no longer need to study to see if it is true. Yet much of the scientific community will do such.
Lets look at the facts, not our own bias. Bring me the facts to prove that there is no God or intelligent creator. When you do, I will declare that there is on creator. But, being that I know you could never provide the evidence, I am comfortable with my believe that we were created by something.
Read up on it, you need to know what you are going to be refuting.
Intelligent Design Network
If you want to discuss more, take this to PM's.
Getting back to the issue at hand, Terra, glad you were able to serve in the Army of your nation and the UN. I do have respect for such a thing now that you have provided evidence of being such. Problem is anyone can claim anything, so unless someone proves something, I pretty much do not believe it. I am sure you can understand... I mean, what if I claimed to be a Navy Seal? Pretty silly, could be true, but could not be. I actually knew a seal, retired and he scared the crap outa me.. Nice guy though.
1. ID is NOT scinece!
Show me ONE sciencetific peer-viewed ID article!
I dare you!
ID is nothing more than creationisme where "god" is replaced by an "intelligent being", nothing more!
And to argue that the universe came from "nothing" show how little you now about science, physics and atronomy.
Talk.Origins Archive: Exploring the Creation/Evolution Controversy
ID is layers trying to be biologists, bioloigist trying to be physicsists and priests trying to be atronomers.
You don't ask your dentst to fix your car, you don't ask your postman to do your powerwiring in the house...
Read up before you make ann ass of yourself.
THERE IS NO SCINECE IN ID...FACT OF LIFE!!!
2. I wouldn't trust a word you say.
If you claimed to ve a SEAL or claimed something else.
Your religion has clouded your brain, and thus made you untrusthworthy in my eyes.
3. You tried to call my "bluff", but it backfired, don't expect any sympathy from me.
In general can I say that the "ID-movement" tried the same thing last week in DK, but got slammed.
In Europe we don't preach religion in scinece, and don't mix pseudo-science(ID) with real science.
Our politicians rejected the idea, and so do more than 80% of the danes in polls.
Knowlegede/facts in shcools, religion is where it should be, in the church.
Don't mix science with religious babble, that has NO sciencetific foundation in reality!
Terra - Religion is the sanctuary for those that can't face reality...