F this guy thread

[Fanatical Meat]

Let’s keep it simple and keep it to National Figure’s (people). No responses required

I’ll start:

Fuck this guy. Comes to speak to Congress and has the balls to insult many of them. Fuck him.

Has Netanyahu finally lost America?

After his latest address to Congress, the Israeli prime minister has never looked more isolated.

www.vox.com

Fuck that guy!

Also previously posted, Fuck Joe Manchin. Drops out of the Democrat Party and still wants to be included in the primaries. Fuck him and his arrogance.

Sen. Joe Manchin says he won't run for president but calls for Democratic "mini primary" now that Biden's out

Sen. Joe Manchin, a longtime Democrat-turned-independent, told "CBS Mornings" he won't be running for president.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[nakedfrog]

I am also willing to take the bold step of announcing that I will not be running for President this year. I think I had about the same chance Manchin did of securing the nomination.

 

[HomerJS]

I already said F to Bibi in another thread so…

F Kyrstan Sinema. She was the lone vote that prevented eliminating the carried interest loophole. A tax break only for hedge fund managers

 

[KMFJD]

here's a whole building full of clapping seals that can get f*cked

https://imgur.com/FbsWJz3

but if i had to pick it would be fetterman, there's a point where it looks like lurch almost sheds a tear during bibi's rant

 

[iRONic]

Eric Clapton

I just exited the Mayall thread which reminded me of the garbage EC was spewing during the pandemic.

F that guy!

 

[Muse]

Eric Clapton

I just exited the Mayall thread which reminded me of the garbage EC was spewing during the pandemic.

F that guy!

Anti-vaxxers who should know better rile me. Clapton, Van Morrison too.

 

[Indus]

Eric Clapton

I just exited the Mayall thread which reminded me of the garbage EC was spewing during the pandemic.

F that guy!

I didn't like him when the won the grammy for a song for his son.. seemed a whacko back then too..

And this is from his wiki page:

 

[Muse]

Talk about this fucking guy, these chicks really get after it. Trump, Elon, I've only watched a few but they do their homework...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=this+fucking+guy

 

[Muse]

I didn't like him when the won the grammy for a song for his son.. seemed a whacko back then too..

And this is from his wiki page:

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OMG! Gotta say, I was never a fan and have never understood the worship for his guitar playing. Not one solo. Nothing's really grabbed me. But those remarks and you know he turned into a nut-case.

 

[Indus]

David Bowie's was no angel either:

1978, the year rock found the power to unite

In 1978, race relations in Britain were in crisis. The National Front was gathering power and immigrants lived in fear of violence. But that year also saw the rise of a campaign aimed at halting the tide of hatred with music, writes Sarfraz Manzoor

www.theguardian.com

It was 5 August 1976 and Eric Clapton was drunk, angry and on stage at the Birmingham Odeon. 'Enoch was right,' he told the audience, 'I think we should send them all back.' Britain was, he complained, in danger of becoming 'a black colony' and a vote for controversial Tory politician Enoch Powell whom he described as a prophet was needed to 'keep Britain white'. Although the irony was possibly lost on Clapton, the Odeon in Birmingham is on New Street, minutes from the Midland Hotel where eight years earlier Powell had made his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech. But if the coincidence was curious, the hypocrisy was breathtaking: Clapton's career was based on appropriating black music, and he had recently had a hit with Bob Marley's 'I Shot the Sheriff'.

In usual circumstances his comments would have been merely ill advised, but it was the social and political context which made Clapton's intervention so chilling. The National Front had won 40 per cent of the votes in the spring elections in Blackburn. One month earlier an Asian teenager, Gurdip Singh Chaggar, had been murdered by a gang of white youths in Southall. 'One down - a million to go' was the response to the killing from John Kingsley Read of the National Front.

Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux were sporting swastikas as fashion statements. David Bowie, who three months earlier had been photographed apparently giving a Nazi salute in Victoria Station, told Cameron Crowe in the September 1976 edition of Playboy '... yes I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air... is a right-wing totally dictatorial tyranny...' In that same interview Bowie claimed that 'Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.' This was Britain then in the sweltering summer of 1976, and in that context Clapton's comments were potentially incendiary.


Was it the drugs? Or this is who they are and they were told to manage their true feelings for their careers and money??

That's quite a redemption arc if it's real marrying Iman and all..

 

[outriding]

Talk about this fucking guy, these chicks really get after it. Trump, Elon, I've only watched a few but they do their homework...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=this+fucking+guy

Props for that post. I have seen some of their videos … they don’t pull any punches

 

[Muse]

David Bowie's was no angel either:

1978, the year rock found the power to unite

In 1978, race relations in Britain were in crisis. The National Front was gathering power and immigrants lived in fear of violence. But that year also saw the rise of a campaign aimed at halting the tide of hatred with music, writes Sarfraz Manzoor

www.theguardian.com

It was 5 August 1976 and Eric Clapton was drunk, angry and on stage at the Birmingham Odeon. 'Enoch was right,' he told the audience, 'I think we should send them all back.' Britain was, he complained, in danger of becoming 'a black colony' and a vote for controversial Tory politician Enoch Powell whom he described as a prophet was needed to 'keep Britain white'. Although the irony was possibly lost on Clapton, the Odeon in Birmingham is on New Street, minutes from the Midland Hotel where eight years earlier Powell had made his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech. But if the coincidence was curious, the hypocrisy was breathtaking: Clapton's career was based on appropriating black music, and he had recently had a hit with Bob Marley's 'I Shot the Sheriff'.

In usual circumstances his comments would have been merely ill advised, but it was the social and political context which made Clapton's intervention so chilling. The National Front had won 40 per cent of the votes in the spring elections in Blackburn. One month earlier an Asian teenager, Gurdip Singh Chaggar, had been murdered by a gang of white youths in Southall. 'One down - a million to go' was the response to the killing from John Kingsley Read of the National Front.

Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux were sporting swastikas as fashion statements. David Bowie, who three months earlier had been photographed apparently giving a Nazi salute in Victoria Station, told Cameron Crowe in the September 1976 edition of Playboy '... yes I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air... is a right-wing totally dictatorial tyranny...' In that same interview Bowie claimed that 'Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.' This was Britain then in the sweltering summer of 1976, and in that context Clapton's comments were potentially incendiary.


Was it the drugs? Or this is who they are and they were told to manage their true feelings for their careers and money??

That's quite a redemption arc if it's real marrying Iman and all..

I have never gotten the appeal of David Bowie. I like a few of his songs, yeah, but never bought any of his albums. Fame, The Man Who Sold the World, good songs, I guess few others.

An album I bought recently, a double album, Linton Kwesi Johnson, from Jamaica originally (black), then England, this song, Inglan is a Bitch (patois, for England). This is from about that time, 1980.

 

[iRONic]

I was unaware of the David Bowie stuff. Damn…

 

[Indus]

I was unaware of the David Bowie stuff. Damn…

Sometimes it's the ones that're peacocking for attention but still that's no excuse.

Reminds me of when I had a dude in my European History class in Hunter College.. dressed like a metal head/ biker.. MC Jacket leather, always a heavy metal band shirt.. played good guitar (jammed with him), but holy shit was I surprised later on near the end of the semester.

He wrote a paper for 17 pages of why "Hitler was a great man". Only 5 pages were required.

His paper so shocked me.. I never jammed with him again. Instead I'd make an excuse.

 

[KMFJD]

David Bowie's was no angel either:

1978, the year rock found the power to unite

In 1978, race relations in Britain were in crisis. The National Front was gathering power and immigrants lived in fear of violence. But that year also saw the rise of a campaign aimed at halting the tide of hatred with music, writes Sarfraz Manzoor

www.theguardian.com

It was 5 August 1976 and Eric Clapton was drunk, angry and on stage at the Birmingham Odeon. 'Enoch was right,' he told the audience, 'I think we should send them all back.' Britain was, he complained, in danger of becoming 'a black colony' and a vote for controversial Tory politician Enoch Powell whom he described as a prophet was needed to 'keep Britain white'. Although the irony was possibly lost on Clapton, the Odeon in Birmingham is on New Street, minutes from the Midland Hotel where eight years earlier Powell had made his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech. But if the coincidence was curious, the hypocrisy was breathtaking: Clapton's career was based on appropriating black music, and he had recently had a hit with Bob Marley's 'I Shot the Sheriff'.

In usual circumstances his comments would have been merely ill advised, but it was the social and political context which made Clapton's intervention so chilling. The National Front had won 40 per cent of the votes in the spring elections in Blackburn. One month earlier an Asian teenager, Gurdip Singh Chaggar, had been murdered by a gang of white youths in Southall. 'One down - a million to go' was the response to the killing from John Kingsley Read of the National Front.

Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux were sporting swastikas as fashion statements. David Bowie, who three months earlier had been photographed apparently giving a Nazi salute in Victoria Station, told Cameron Crowe in the September 1976 edition of Playboy '... yes I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air... is a right-wing totally dictatorial tyranny...' In that same interview Bowie claimed that 'Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.' This was Britain then in the sweltering summer of 1976, and in that context Clapton's comments were potentially incendiary.


Was it the drugs? Or this is who they are and they were told to manage their true feelings for their careers and money??

That's quite a redemption arc if it's real marrying Iman and all..

It was definitely the drugs for Bowie at that point of his life.....

 

[pmv]

So depressing that history seems to be repeating itself, with both John Lydon and Morrissey.

Former Sex Pistol John Lydon blames immigration for ‘division’ in UK

Ex-punk rocker has been accused of ‘hypocrisy’ by critics who point out that his own parents were immigrants

www.independent.co.uk

Morrissey reaffirms support for far-right party and claims 'everyone prefers their own race'

Singer rails against the British media and lavishes praise on For Britain leader Anne Marie Waters in interview with own nephew

www.independent.co.uk

It's like Rock Against Racism never happened.

 

[nakedfrog]

It was definitely the drugs for Bowie at that point of his life.....

IIRC that's when he was living on cigarettes, cocaine (lots of cocaine), milk, and red peppers.

In 1989, he wrote the song "Under the God" that was on one of the Tin Machine albums, been thinking about covering it recently.

Skin dance back-a-the condo
Skin heads getting to school
Beating on blacks with a baseball bat
Racism back in rule

White trash picking up Nazi flags
While you was gone, there was war
This is the west, get used to it
They put a Swastika over the door

Under the God, under the God
One step over the red line
Under the God, under the God
Ten steps into the crazy, crazy

Washington heads in the toilet bowl
Don't see supremacist hate
Right wing dicks in their boiler suits
Picking out who to annihilate

Toxic jungle of Uzi trails
Tribesmen just wouldn't live here
Fascist flare is fashion cool
Well, you're dead, you just ain't buried yet

Under the God, under the God
Under the God, under the God

As the walls came tumbling down
So, the secrets that we shared
I believed you by the palace gates
Now the savage days are here

Under the God
Under the God, under the God
One step over the red line
Under the God, under the God
One steps into the crazy, crazy

Crazy eyed man with a shot gun
Hot headed creep with a knife
Love and peace and harmony
Love you could cut with a knife

Under the God, under the God
Under the God, under the God

 

[HomerJS]

David Bowie's was no angel either:

1978, the year rock found the power to unite

In 1978, race relations in Britain were in crisis. The National Front was gathering power and immigrants lived in fear of violence. But that year also saw the rise of a campaign aimed at halting the tide of hatred with music, writes Sarfraz Manzoor

www.theguardian.com

It was 5 August 1976 and Eric Clapton was drunk, angry and on stage at the Birmingham Odeon. 'Enoch was right,' he told the audience, 'I think we should send them all back.' Britain was, he complained, in danger of becoming 'a black colony' and a vote for controversial Tory politician Enoch Powell whom he described as a prophet was needed to 'keep Britain white'. Although the irony was possibly lost on Clapton, the Odeon in Birmingham is on New Street, minutes from the Midland Hotel where eight years earlier Powell had made his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech. But if the coincidence was curious, the hypocrisy was breathtaking: Clapton's career was based on appropriating black music, and he had recently had a hit with Bob Marley's 'I Shot the Sheriff'.

In usual circumstances his comments would have been merely ill advised, but it was the social and political context which made Clapton's intervention so chilling. The National Front had won 40 per cent of the votes in the spring elections in Blackburn. One month earlier an Asian teenager, Gurdip Singh Chaggar, had been murdered by a gang of white youths in Southall. 'One down - a million to go' was the response to the killing from John Kingsley Read of the National Front.

Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux were sporting swastikas as fashion statements. David Bowie, who three months earlier had been photographed apparently giving a Nazi salute in Victoria Station, told Cameron Crowe in the September 1976 edition of Playboy '... yes I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air... is a right-wing totally dictatorial tyranny...' In that same interview Bowie claimed that 'Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.' This was Britain then in the sweltering summer of 1976, and in that context Clapton's comments were potentially incendiary.


Was it the drugs? Or this is who they are and they were told to manage their true feelings for their careers and money??

That's quite a redemption arc if it's real marrying Iman and all..

I'm surprised by Bowie. in the early 80s he stood up for Michael Jackson and black artists when MTV wouldn't play their content. Also, his association within the black music producer community was also well known. He used to work with Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia. If you have more follow-up info on Bowie, I would appreciate it.

Check out this interview

 

[MrSquished]

Bowie was a phase, Morrissey has always been a giant dbag.

 

[repoman0]

David Bowie's was no angel either:

1978, the year rock found the power to unite

In 1978, race relations in Britain were in crisis. The National Front was gathering power and immigrants lived in fear of violence. But that year also saw the rise of a campaign aimed at halting the tide of hatred with music, writes Sarfraz Manzoor

www.theguardian.com

It was 5 August 1976 and Eric Clapton was drunk, angry and on stage at the Birmingham Odeon. 'Enoch was right,' he told the audience, 'I think we should send them all back.' Britain was, he complained, in danger of becoming 'a black colony' and a vote for controversial Tory politician Enoch Powell whom he described as a prophet was needed to 'keep Britain white'. Although the irony was possibly lost on Clapton, the Odeon in Birmingham is on New Street, minutes from the Midland Hotel where eight years earlier Powell had made his infamous 'Rivers of Blood' speech. But if the coincidence was curious, the hypocrisy was breathtaking: Clapton's career was based on appropriating black music, and he had recently had a hit with Bob Marley's 'I Shot the Sheriff'.

In usual circumstances his comments would have been merely ill advised, but it was the social and political context which made Clapton's intervention so chilling. The National Front had won 40 per cent of the votes in the spring elections in Blackburn. One month earlier an Asian teenager, Gurdip Singh Chaggar, had been murdered by a gang of white youths in Southall. 'One down - a million to go' was the response to the killing from John Kingsley Read of the National Front.

Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux were sporting swastikas as fashion statements. David Bowie, who three months earlier had been photographed apparently giving a Nazi salute in Victoria Station, told Cameron Crowe in the September 1976 edition of Playboy '... yes I believe very strongly in fascism. The only way we can speed up the sort of liberalism that's hanging foul in the air... is a right-wing totally dictatorial tyranny...' In that same interview Bowie claimed that 'Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.' This was Britain then in the sweltering summer of 1976, and in that context Clapton's comments were potentially incendiary.


Was it the drugs? Or this is who they are and they were told to manage their true feelings for their careers and money??

That's quite a redemption arc if it's real marrying Iman and all..

The Sid Vicious line in this surprised me because there’s nothing less punk rock than being a Nazi. Sounds like he was an 18 year old nihilistic anarchist wearing Nazi trash for shock value. Maybe edgy in the 70s I guess despite being very lame in 2024?

 

[nakedfrog]

The Sid Vicious line in this surprised me because there’s nothing less punk rock than being a Nazi. Sounds like he was an 18 year old nihilistic anarchist wearing Nazi trash for shock value. Maybe edgy in the 70s I guess despite being very lame in 2024?

There were a lot of Nazis in the punk scene in the 70s/80s (hence "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" and the SHARPs).

 

[Indus]

There were a lot of Nazis in the punk scene in the 70s/80s (hence "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" and the SHARPs).

I didn't know that.. I actually liked and bought the Ramones albums.

I have seen live racism at a Man O War concert btw.. threw out all their albums after that.. (well traded em for Pearl Jam and Sepultura and Judas Priest if I remember correctly)

 

[pmv]

The Sid Vicious line in this surprised me because there’s nothing less punk rock than being a Nazi. Sounds like he was an 18 year old nihilistic anarchist wearing Nazi trash for shock value. Maybe edgy in the 70s I guess despite being very lame in 2024?

It's a _little_ more complicated than actually being a Nazi. I think it was mostly to do with annoying parents who 'fought the war for you'. While, of course, at the same time being too stupid to realise those symbols offended a lot more people than that, and for much more profound reasons. That is, it was indeed mostly for 'shock value', but with a scary degree of ignorance mixed in.

I think Bowie's comments were closer to the Sid Vicious/Sousxie stupidity end of things than to Clapton's overt racism. A fashion/shock thing, with a lot of complacent stupidity mixed in.

 

[pmv]

Bowie, Sid and Souxsie all came from Bromely, curiously. An area that even now is unusually white (but working class) and one of the few London constituencies that elected a Tory MP this year (though only just).

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Fuck this guy again.
He wants to be the only one who can insult people. Typical weak bully, I throw the insults and I cry when I get insulted. This fucking guy bothers me more and more.
If you want help ask for it and be grateful. Don’t shit on one party and then expect them to help out with no strings attached.

Netanyahu says he hopes Harris' remarks don't make ceasefire deal harder to reach​

From CNN's Michael Conte

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks while meeting with former President Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate on Friday in Palm Beach, Florida.
Alex Brandon/AP
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that he hoped Vice President Kamala Harris’ comments forcefully criticizing Israel’s conduct in its war against Hamas in Gaza would not make a ceasefire deal harder to reach.
“I think to the extent that Hamas understands there’s no daylight between Israel and the United States, that expedites the deal,” said Netanyahu to reporters at a meeting with former President Donald Trump. “And I would hope that those comments don’t change that.”
Harris’ office earlier Friday rejected a suggestion from a senior Israeli official that echoed Netanyahu’s remarks. “I don’t know what they’re talking about,” a Harris aide told CNN.
Netanyahu also said he believed the recent movement closer to a deal was because of Israel’s military pressure on Hamas.
“I think there’s been some movement because of our military pressure that we exerted,” said Netanyahu. “I hope there will be sufficient movement to get a deal completed.”
Netanyahu said Israel will be sending a team to Rome for further negotiations “probably in the beginning of the week.”