F1 2010

[The Boston Dangler]

For those that bought it on steam (Like me ) Its a available for pre-load NOW!

8 gigs? holy cow! it's almost the size of an mmo!

 

[Skurge]

8 gigs? holy cow! it's almost the size of an mmo!

Well, if I look in my steam folder, DiRT is 10.4GB, GRID is 10.3GB and DiRT2 is 10.6GB so im thinking after install this game is going to be about the same 10GB or so.

They are huge for racing games though, I wonder what make them so big. It could be the EGO engine (Which is awesome by the way.)

Its going to take me about 3days on my very slow 512kbps line.

 

[fatpat268]

8 gigs? holy cow! it's almost the size of an mmo!

8 gigs isn't much nowadays anyway. A lot of games are pushing the 8.5gb limit for a dual layer dvd on consoles (and that's with lower quality textures).

That said, doesn't bother me, I could easily download 8gb in two hours or less.

 

[wirednuts]

dirt2 is crazy on my projection home theater. i cant really play it more then a couple hours, it just gets to be too much whackiness

this game will be the same. but much more real... im so happy they put real life engine sounds in it.

 

[busydude]

For those that bought it on steam (Like me ) Its a available for pre-load NOW!

Thanks for the heads-up. Will download later tonight.

 

[busydude]

Reviews up on few UK websites. Looking great so far.

http://www.totalvideogames.com/F1-2010/review-15648.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/sep/20/f1-2010-game-review
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/f1_2010/review.html
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/112/1120745p1.html

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Reviews up on few UK websites. Looking great so far.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/sep/20/f1-2010-game-review

holy crap that guardian reviewer doesn't know his ass from his elbow

 

[Skurge]

You guys in the US are lucky the game is coming out today for you, I have to wait till Friday.

 

[zokudu]

I just grabbed the Steam Preorder sale at the last minute. I'll mess around with it a bit tomorrow but I think I will need to buy a controller to really enjoy the game.

 

[wirednuts]

holy crap that guardian reviewer doesn't know his ass from his elbow

agreed! he complains that a simulator is too much simulation! and then goes on to say how arcadey it is, basically.... very hypocritical review

 

[The Boston Dangler]

ok, with the steam pre-load it took about 45 minutes before i even saw a race car. first there was the product activation, then i had to create a GFWL account, then 15 more minutes trying to get fullscreen back (alt + enter). after an hour or so of playing, i have the following conclusions:

menu hell - silly. the worst i've seen since GTR Evolution. there seems to be no way of navigating the menus with a controller despite the xbox origins.

this game has a moderate case of consolitis - much better than borderlands. it seems there's no mouse support at all.

controllers suck - the steering and throttle/brakes are all-or-nothing, even with analog sticks. the default for my supported cordless rumblepad 2 was mostly unmapped. the game forgot my custom setup when i restarted. force feedback seems to be working well.

playing the game adds about 10 processes, according to task manager.

the game is FAST. i picked the noob setting and there seems to be too much hand-holding. once i get the feel of it, i'm turning off the auto-lift and other aids that come on too strong. the game defaulted to maximum easy settings, including a wet setup on a dry desert track.

i'll wait to comment on audio and video until i arrive at my final setup., but out of the box it looks ok.

 

[zokudu]

Yea steam preloads kicking my butt its been unpacking files or something for almost 20 minutes. Though are you saying its not worth buying a controller for?

 

[The Boston Dangler]

well, i wouldn't use a keyboard, so for me it's either a $30 controller or a $300 steering wheel. i'm not crazy about the price and i have nowhere to put the wheel on my couch, so i'll probably pass on a G27. my control with the sticks is getting better with practice.

yeah, so "decrypting" upon first run instead of just unlocking, then "fragmentation warning" (i have an ssd, so it makes no sense. i skipped) then installation, GFWL (is steam and a product key not enough to prove i paid money?) and then game menus from hell.

after your first few laps, the setting to turn off is Braking Assist. it goes from training wheels to rocket ship, and your driving should improve noticeably (because it has to).

i5 750, 4 gb ram, gtx275
1920x1080, ms8xaa, high settings
i forgot to run fraps
graphics are ok, very jaggy considering those settings. it can be very difficult to judge distances when trying to plant the front wheel on an apex. it doesn't seem i can get anything other than stereo sound out of this game, another console-related limitation i suspect.

 

[zokudu]

Well i finally got to race a bit. I agree the braking assist is annoying to begin with shut mine off as well. I need to go grab an Xbox wired controller it seems I only have wireless ones and plug n charge kits (Why can't I use this as a wire?) from when I still had an Xbox. The audio was really annoying and crackly it may be my G35 I will try shutting off the surround sound next.

Overall though I am happy with the game though.

 

[coxmaster]

I really wanna buy this for PC (tonight), but I dont want to do it through steam.

If i buy it though steam im stuck installing it on my SSD, which is damn near full.
Anybody know anywhere else to order online?

 

[coxmaster]

Disregard my previous post. I bit the bullet and cleaned up some old stuff to make room

 

[busydude]

So far I am loving the game. I finished 2nd in my first race in easy . I am playing with just corner assist with all other options turned off.

 

[coxmaster]

So far I am loving the game. I finished 2nd in my first race in easy . I am playing with just corner assist with all other options turned off.

Im running mostly intermediate. Managed to qualify 1st twice, then screw up in one corner or another and end up near the back.

Either way, LOVE the game so far

 

[Skurge]

n00bs!

Anyway, I cant wait to try it out this Friday.
I'll let you know whats its like with the xbox controller.

 

[Skurge]

well, i wouldn't use a keyboard, so for me it's either a $30 controller or a $300 steering wheel. i'm not crazy about the price and i have nowhere to put the wheel on my couch, so i'll probably pass on a G27. my control with the sticks is getting better with practice.

yeah, so "decrypting" upon first run instead of just unlocking, then "fragmentation warning" (i have an ssd, so it makes no sense. i skipped) then installation, GFWL (is steam and a product key not enough to prove i paid money?) and then game menus from hell.

after your first few laps, the setting to turn off is Braking Assist. it goes from training wheels to rocket ship, and your driving should improve noticeably (because it has to).

i5 750, 4 gb ram, gtx275
1920x1080, ms8xaa, high settings
i forgot to run fraps
graphics are ok, very jaggy considering those settings. it can be very difficult to judge distances when trying to plant the front wheel on an apex. it doesn't seem i can get anything other than stereo sound out of this game, another console-related limitation i suspect.

Have you tried messing with rapture3D? Thats how you get surround sound in dirt2

 

[Timorous]

I have this pre-ordered and the company have shipped it early so I should have it later today when I get back in from work. I have the PC version and an Xbox pad so if I get chance to play it I can post an update later on.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Have you tried messing with rapture3D? Thats how you get surround sound in dirt2

yep. still only getting stereo, not even the sub. neither DDL nor DTS are kicking in.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

ok, this game is pissing me off now.

it installed another sound driver - Rapture3D - complete with it's own speaker config panel. it would have been nice to have been informed of this . i found it by searching for "rapture" on my pc after reading the "manual".

F1 2010 sound uses OpenAL drivers for maximum compatibility, performance and quality on all versions of Windows™. The “Software” option uses Creative Labs ‘generic software’ mixer. This works on any DirectSound-compatible audio device, in stereo or 5.1 channel surround. It is fast but of
limited fidelity. The “Hardware” option suits X-Fi cards that support EAX5 high-quality ‘Game Mode’.
The default is the “Rapture3D” OpenAL driver from Blue Ripple Sound. On slow PCs this matches the quality of the old ‘generic software’ driver, and on a modern quad core it can match or surpass the best hardware acceleration.
F1 2010 supports true 3D loudspeaker surround sound if you select the Rapture3D driver in the audio game options and the F1 2010 sound uses OpenAL drivers for maximum compatibility, performance and quality on all versions of Windows™. The “Software” option uses Creative Labs ‘generic software’ mixer. This works on any DirectSound-compatible audio device, in stereo or 5.1 channel surround. It is fast but of limited fidelity. The “Hardware” option suits X-Fi cards that support EAX5 high-quality ‘Game Mode’.
The default is the “Rapture3D” OpenAL driver from Blue Ripple Sound. On slow PCs this matches the quality of the old ‘generic software’ driver, and on a modern quad core it can match or surpass the best hardware acceleration.
F1 2010 supports true 3D loudspeaker surround sound if you select the Rapture3D driver in the audio game options and the ‘Surround 3D7.1’ option in the Rapture3D Speaker Layout in Windows.

Rapture3D is not accepting any config other than stereo, despite 5.1 being selected in windows and my soundcard controls. the "Software" setting in game does not seem to activate EAX 3, so no love there either.

i'm using a soundcard with dolby digital live and dts interactive, plugged into a receiver with an optical cable. this setup has worked flawlessly for years, with every 3D game i've thrown at it. at this point, i can only blame shitty programming. :thumbsdown:

 

[Imported]

Any more first impressions? I'm probably picking this up for the PS3, but the console area doesn't have a thread on this game.. so I thought I'd ask here.

 

[busydude]

Any more first impressions? I'm probably picking this up for the PS3, but the console area doesn't have a thread on this game.. so I thought I'd ask here.

The crash mechanism is not good when compared to DiRT 2. The front wing does not break in bits and pieces, the whole thing just gets separated from the body. The weather mechanism is phenomenal. There is a sense of realism to driving, your car feels twitchier when driving on cold tires soon after the pit stop.

Driving on green track is difficult and it becomes easier after you done a few laps as the track gets rubberized. Pit stops are unpredictable, I mean if you are doing the short race(20% race distance) you have to pit at the pre determined lap, and the time at pits varies greatly. In sakir when I pitted it took 19s because I damaged the front wing.. otherwise just a simple stop will be around 6-8 seconds.

The graphics look good when driving, no so good when you are in the garage or paddock, there is jagginess even when I applied 8XMSAA(Disregard for PS3).

Flooring the accelerator after corners will make your car spin.. you need to have a progressive throttle input.

The games modes are great and will cater to everyone.. you can change/disable every option. The flashback/ Instant replay system is similar to the one used in Dirt 2.