F18 Hornet vs. F15 Eagle.........

redgtxdi

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I would consider these very similar planes...........(neither is huge like the F14, nor sporting anything other than a conventional engine configuration).

Since they're similar (imho) I was wondering how they'd fare against eachother.

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I would consider these very similar planes...........(neither is huge like the F14, nor sporting anything other than a conventional engine configuration).

Since they're similar (imho) I was wondering how they'd fare against eachother.

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DanTMWTMP

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F15.

faster, more agile, and was built for only air-to-air combat, where F18 is a jack-of-all-trades type of aircraft.

EDIT: ya what yllus said.
 

yllus

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F-15 = Air superiority fighter
F/A-18 = Multirole fighter

All AFAIK as a civilian. Considering the F-15's purpose is to dominate the air, I'm betting it'd prevail.
 

sao123

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It depends...

F-15 A/B/C/D should easily Take the F-18 A/B/C/D but the F-18 E/F's SuperHornets might be more of a challenge.
 

DanTMWTMP

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Originally posted by: sao123
It depends...

F-15 A/B/C/D should easily Take the F-18 A/B/C/D but the F-18 E/F's SuperHornets might be more of a challenge.

E/F's are less agile than A/B/C/D, and not as great dogfighters as ABCD. But, the E/F's probably has better avionics (sp lol) and such. I thought E/F's are better suited as ground attack planes than A/B/C/D.

*shrug* i donno much anyways. just spitting oout what I've read around and been told by pilots (from miramar airshow)
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Citrix
eaglekeeper???

Yes......

Bias aside, the F15s used at Nellis (Red Flags, etc) usually have no real trouble with the Hornets.

However, this may also be due to the fact the Eagles are on home terrain and also, there are ground controllers lining up the matches.
Quality of ground controllers has an impact.

 

Mardeth

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Id hope F-18 since we have 60 of them, and that all we have, literally....
 

jtvang125

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I don't think the F-15's were designed to be in tight dogfights. If I remember correctly their ability to turn quickly isn't that great but what it does excel at is speed. It could easily outclimb many of the jets of that era not to mention the advance radar that is able to target and lock on its enemies way farther out. This gave it the advantage of being able to shoot its missiles before the enemy can.

I think the Hornet can probably out turn an Eagle but if the Eagle pilot is good he'll turn it into a vertical fight and that's where he'll have the biggest advantage.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: sao123
It depends...

F-15 A/B/C/D should easily Take the F-18 A/B/C/D but the F-18 E/F's SuperHornets might be more of a challenge.

E/F's are less agile than A/B/C/D, and not as great dogfighters as ABCD. But, the E/F's probably has better avionics (sp lol) and such. I thought E/F's are better suited as ground attack planes than A/B/C/D.

*shrug* i donno much anyways. just spitting oout what I've read around and been told by pilots (from miramar airshow)


Given that they will both carry nearly identical munitions,

AIM-9 Sidewinder
AIM-120 AMRAAM
and
M61A1 Vulcan cannon

Althought the avionics of the F-18 E/F are superior...
I'd give a slight edge to the F-15C over the F-18 E/F based on engine superiority in close range combat. In BVR, I'd be tempted to take the Super Hornet though.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
Originally posted by: sao123
It depends...

F-15 A/B/C/D should easily Take the F-18 A/B/C/D but the F-18 E/F's SuperHornets might be more of a challenge.

E/F's are less agile than A/B/C/D, and not as great dogfighters as ABCD. But, the E/F's probably has better avionics (sp lol) and such. I thought E/F's are better suited as ground attack planes than A/B/C/D.

*shrug* i donno much anyways. just spitting oout what I've read around and been told by pilots (from miramar airshow)


Given that they will both carry nearly identical munitions,

AIM-9 Sidewinder
AIM-120 AMRAAM
and
M61A1 Vulcan cannon

Althought the avionics of the F-18 E/F are superior...
I'd give a slight edge to the F-15C over the F-18 E/F based on engine superiority in close range combat. In BVR, I'd be tempted to take the Super Hornet though.


I might have said that backward.
 

kki000

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Hmm i know this was asked as a general question, but several details could tilt it either way.

Loadout/Armaments
If all things were equal, both geared for A/A, i would assume the f15 would have an edge. With most aerial encounters happening out of los, with amraams, the f15 would prob have a better shot against the missle, and then closing for a kill.

Variants
Again it would matter which version would be up against which, but against the latest eagle and the superhornet, i think i give the edge to the hornet. One factor no one mentioned about the new models, they have enhanced stealth and infrared signature suppression. Im not sure if its alot, but again it would aid in its ability to survive the first salvo against the super long range missles. Also the superhornet is supposed to have along with the better avionics, better integration with some sort of future "battlenet", with closer ties to the awacs planes. This could give it an edge with the initial engagement, possibly engaging sooner with better data. With enhanced "stealth", could also buy it some more time against the eagle.

Honestly i think its a wash. Any of the above factors, along with a dozen others could favor one or the other.
 

Pacfanweb

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Depends on the pilot/ground controller combo. End of story.

If it's a straight up dogfight, with no ground control, the best pilot is going to win.
 

redgtxdi

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Actually, this was just bait for "Eagle Keeper" .................Juuuuuuuust kidding!



They're both gonna be at a local airshow in a couple weeks & can't wait to see such similar planes in action.

We usually get the A10 hog (snort snort) 'cuz our airspace is near an Int'l aiport & the valley is small, but over the years things seem to be growing. Would love to see a B1 show up some day. (read that, NEVARR ) But F15/F18 maneuvers will definitely suffice!

 

smitbret

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I think Discovery Channel did a show on the 10 most fearsome fighter planes ever about a year or so ago and the F-15 was #2. If you trust the Discovery Channel, there's not much out there that can match up with the F-15. Said that there's never been one lost in any combat situation.
 

jammur21

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F-15 > F-18

Although I remember watching a show or reading a thread that said F-18s can hold their own in F-16 vs F-18 dogfights.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Id hope F-18 since we have 60 of them, and that all we have, literally....

Perhaps you've confused the F-18 with the F-22?

Finland doesn't have any F22s. They have ground based F18s.
 
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