Fahrenheit 11/9 Michael Moore's new documentary

[Thebobo]

Michael Moore latest documentary Fahrenheit 11/9 opens on 9/21. Showing at the AFI in Silver Spring here in MD. I don't go to many but I will be sure to support this one. I've always found his films to be really funny and a scathing look at society so I look forward to this one.

Long article in the Hollywood reporter about the film and moore.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/f...new-movie-trump-2020-election-fascism-1139176

He's America's most successful documentarian and one of the few on the left who predicted the 2016 election upset. Now, as Moore readies his anticipated polemic 'Fahrenheit 11/9' for its Toronto film festival debut, he takes aim at Trump (and Nancy Pelosi … and Harvey Weinstein …) and those actually responsible for the president's rapid rise to power (hint: Gwen Stefani).

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Great, somebody with no concept of reality making a movie about somebody with no concept of reality.

 

[Moonbeam]

Great, somebody with no concept of reality making a movie about somebody with no concept of reality.

Great, somebody with no concept of reality commenting that somebody with no sense of reality is commenting on somebody with no sense of reality. Am I glad I got in line early.

 

[Thebobo]

Great, somebody with no concept of reality making a movie about somebody with no concept of reality.

How does Moore have no sense in reality? Seems to be pretty down to earth to me. I realise a lot of people hate him for some unknown reason and often they don't know either. Its like Carter hate and Gore hate they just hate because they heard someone else hate them and they are supposed to hate them but they don't know really why but they want to be with the cool folks who hate him so there! Don't be a they hater!

Moore makes thought provoking funny documentaries that make me smile, angry and laugh, plus he's the most successful film documentary maker, I would say he has a pretty good grasp on reality.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

How does Moore have no sense in reality? Seems to be pretty down to earth to me. I realise a lot of people hate him for some unknown reason and often they don't know either. Its like Carter hate and Gore hate they just hate because they heard someone else hate them and they are supposed to hate them but they don't know really why but they want to be with the cool folks who hate him so there! Don't be a they hater!

Moore makes thought provoking funny documentaries that make me smile, angry and laugh, plus he's the most successful film documentary maker, I would say he has a pretty good grasp on reality.

None of Moore's movies have been factual or real documentaries. They're a mix of facts coupled with outright fabrications, non-sensical rants and self-aggrandizing, they're essentially the same as Trump's tweets. Educate yourself, every one of Moore's movies has been debunked and every one was found to be partially true with a lot of parts added to skew them when the real facts didn't fit Moore's agenda. Start with "Manufacturing Dissent". an ACTUAL documentary. something Moore has never once managed to pull off.

 

[Thebobo]

None of Moore's movies have been factual or real documentaries. They're a mix of facts coupled with outright fabrications, non-sensical rants and self-aggrandizing, they're essentially the same as Trump's tweets. Educate yourself, every one of Moore's movies has been debunked and every one was found to be partially true with a lot of parts added to skew them when the real facts didn't fit Moore's agenda. Start with "Manufacturing Dissent". an ACTUAL documentary. something Moore has never once managed to pull off.

How would you fact check roger and me but eh no biggie its all in fun

 

[pauldun170]

Great, somebody with no concept of reality commenting that somebody with no sense of reality is commenting on somebody with no sense of reality. Am I glad I got in line early.

Is this post real life?
Is this post fantasy?

 

[ivwshane]

None of Moore's movies have been factual or real documentaries. They're a mix of facts coupled with outright fabrications, non-sensical rants and self-aggrandizing, they're essentially the same as Trump's tweets. Educate yourself, every one of Moore's movies has been debunked and every one was found to be partially true with a lot of parts added to skew them when the real facts didn't fit Moore's agenda. Start with "Manufacturing Dissent". an ACTUAL documentary. something Moore has never once managed to pull off.

I'll bite. What are your claims based off of? I'll take a credible citation if you have one.

 

[fskimospy]

None of Moore's movies have been factual or real documentaries. They're a mix of facts coupled with outright fabrications, non-sensical rants and self-aggrandizing, they're essentially the same as Trump's tweets. Educate yourself, every one of Moore's movies has been debunked and every one was found to be partially true with a lot of parts added to skew them when the real facts didn't fit Moore's agenda. Start with "Manufacturing Dissent". an ACTUAL documentary. something Moore has never once managed to pull off.

Moore has been very up front that every one of his movies is an opinion piece in an attempt to make a persuasive argument. The fact that a piece designed to be persuasive would present only the things most favorable to it should be obvious to anyone.

I’m not sure you are the one to talk about people out of touch with reality, haha.

 

[13Gigatons]

Michael Moore is a millionaire...an actual one per-center and his hobby is making silly films chastising people like himself.

 

[ivwshane]

Michael Moore is a millionaire...an actual one per-center and his hobby is making silly films chastising people like himself.

So only the poor and the middle class can advocate for themselves without being called fake?

That's some solid logic right there!

 

[eikelbijter]

None of Moore's movies have been factual or real documentaries. They're a mix of facts coupled with outright fabrications, non-sensical rants and self-aggrandizing, they're essentially the same as Trump's tweets. Educate yourself, every one of Moore's movies has been debunked and every one was found to be partially true with a lot of parts added to skew them when the real facts didn't fit Moore's agenda. Start with "Manufacturing Dissent". an ACTUAL documentary. something Moore has never once managed to pull off.

Unfortunately this analysis is pretty spot on. Full disclosure: I'm a Dutchman, not Democrat of Republican, living in LA for 26 years now. I'm surrounded by Liberals who see Moore as a hero and even though I'm much further in ideology from the American right than the left, I believe he's not helping by bending the truth and peddling "conclusions" that are quite wrong.

In the end, I believe he means well, brings to light things that need to, but, much like the village idiot Morgan Spurlock and his fraud of a 'documentary' Super Size Me actually hurts the cause more than he helps it.

R

 

[Sonikku]

Michael Moore is so out of touch that he single handedly called the election when everyone else was convinced it was going to be a stomp.

 

[sportage]

How does Moore have no sense in reality?

It's a Hillary hate thing.
You know... people that hate someone for no apparent justified reason other than it's THE THING TO DO.
Hillary, Moore, they hate people mostly aligned with the democrats,
But to be fair, democrats do this hate thing for no reason as well.
We hated GW Bush no matter what he said or did or tired to do.
We absolutely hate Donald Trump, and in that case probably totally justified.
We hate Fox News, again totally justified.
Except in Moore's case, he has made some very entertaining movies.
Especially when compared to Moore's counterpart over on the republican side
i.e. Dinesh D'Souza.
When we talk about doosh-bags, Dinesh D'Souza is the first movie maker that comes to mind.
Dinesh D'Souza certainly has Moore beat hands down for moron-ism, a total idiot, and a complete ass.

 

[Moonbeam]

Michael Moore is so out of touch that he single handedly called the election when everyone else was convinced it was going to be a stomp.

Forgive me if I toot my horn here to say he was not alone so I can work in the reason I think why. I believe he knew Trump would win because the message that Democrats were campaigning on would never cut it with the very voters he knew best, white working class American's especially older men. He was flapping and screaming around like chicken little because of the Liberal Brain Defect, they just don't get morals and moral outrage. He and I do but nobody on the left, except for a growing body of passionate progressives do. The Democrats are asleep in their intellectual arrogance towers, in the cups drinking racial identity beer and pointing fingers at how uneducated and stupid Deplorables are.

Moore understands the moral outrage it takes to counter Trump. It's not about facts but how to kick Zombies in the ass and out of their stupor. It's about trying to awaken the moral outrage liberals so lack and overcoming the blithering imbecility of ignorance that keeps them asleep, the ineffective way they message that will always insure that
Trump wins.

Oh, and are we there yet?

Look where we are and ask, can we be this far gone because it's only others who sleep? Do money and politics still walk hand in hand? Anybody aware that democracy is dead, Trump in or Trump out?

 

[Thebobo]

Extended trailer - with Inception background music ~

 

[fskimospy]

Unfortunately this analysis is pretty spot on. Full disclosure: I'm a Dutchman, not Democrat of Republican, living in LA for 26 years now. I'm surrounded by Liberals who see Moore as a hero and even though I'm much further in ideology from the American right than the left, I believe he's not helping by bending the truth and peddling "conclusions" that are quite wrong.

In the end, I believe he means well, brings to light things that need to, but, much like the village idiot Morgan Spurlock and his fraud of a 'documentary' Super Size Me actually hurts the cause more than he helps it.

R

It’s always interesting to me that you never see these think/concern pieces about opinion pieces on the right. Why does accuracy only matter for liberals?

 

[nickqt]

It’s always interesting to me that you never see these think/concern pieces about opinion pieces on the right. Why does accuracy only matter for liberals?

Why would people with no integrity care about what other people with no integrity say? Especially when it's in defense of their cause.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Great, somebody with no concept of reality commenting that somebody with no sense of reality is commenting on somebody with no sense of reality. Am I glad I got in line early.

He is a fat privilleged Hollywood slob - That also had a woman leave him for obvious reasons.

But go ahead and defend the fat stupid fuck just because you agree with whatever political side he rallies for.

I honestly don't care for Moore's "documentaries" because he really fails to address problems or offer solutions and just like to finger point with a KFC drumstick in his hand.

I'll watch it and give my thoughts on it though whenever it comes out of theaters to view.

 

[nickqt]

He is a fat privilleged Hollywood slob - That also had a woman leave him for obvious reasons.

But go ahead and defend the fat stupid fuck just because you agree with whatever political side he rallies for.

I honestly don't care for Moore's "documentaries" because he really fails to address problems or offer solutions and just like to finger point with a KFC drumstick in his hand.

I'll watch it and give my thoughts on it though whenever it comes out of theaters to view.

Michael Moore is fat.

Great argument!

 

[compuwiz1]

Box office flop. He's got a small base of fans, but not many. He's a bit of a nutter extremist. I'm not watching any of his garbage.

 

[greatnoob]

Box office flop. He's got a small base of fans, but not many. He's a bit of a nutter extremist. I'm not watching any of his garbage.

Is he a “nutter extremist” because he’s exposing the actual nutter extremists (I.e., Evangelicals, Trumptards and other conservative derivatives) or do you hate how he’s exposing retards like you for what you truly are?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Michael Moore is fat.

Great argument!

I notice that you didn't manage to dispute the fact that the "facts" Moore uses are non-factual. Great Deflection!!

Moore's documentaries are about as real as Ghostbusters. And a hell of a lot less entertaining.

 

[ivwshane]

I notice that you didn't manage to dispute the fact that the "facts" Moore uses are non-factual. Great Deflection!!

Moore's documentaries are about as real as Ghostbusters. And a hell of a lot less entertaining.

I must have missed your posts where you laid out the non-factual claims in his documentaries. Can you point me to that post?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Is he a “nutter extremist” because he’s exposing the actual nutter extremists (I.e., Evangelicals, Trumptards and other conservative derivatives) or do you hate how he’s exposing retards like you for what you truly are?

No, he's a nutter extremist because he's a nutter extremist. The problem with nutter extremists attacking other nutter extremists is that neither side can claim the high ground. Moore attacks Trump for being an idiot. Trumpers attack Moore for outright faking the facts he uses. And they're both right. If you want to attack the other point of view for being stupid (and that's easily possible for either side) you need to have your own ducks in a row. It's the people in glass houses things. Trumpers have no real credibility to attack Moore because they're idiots. Moore has no credibility to attack ANYONE because he manufacturers the evidence that he claims supports his points. What's the fucking point? It's idiots attacking idiots and idiots defending the idiots who are attacking the idiots. If you're on either side of this particular battle you're one of the biggest idiots of all.