Fair question: are atheists effeminate?

[janas19]

Ok, so before you exorciate me, let me explain the premise.

In spite of the glaring hypocrisies of so-called religious leaders, if you look at the history of religion you will see that some people have actually done some very heroic acts for their religion. For example, Jesus was basically flailed but he survived. Early Christians were fed to lions and brutalized, yet they didn't recant. In spite of the corruption, some amazing and notable things have spawned from Christianity.

Now let's examine the flip side. When I say atheist and heroic, who do you picture? My exposure to atheists, up until creating this thread at least, have been surly, excessive grumblers and whiners who complain when their child has to say the pledge of allegiance in school.

It's a fair but true question, what atheist has done something extraordinary or historic in the name of atheism? Just wondering if someone can enlighten me, because I haven't seen any yet.

 

[Dirigible]

Where's my popcorn and troll repellant?

 

[mrCide]

Atheists don't do things in the name of atheism. Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word so you don't continue to make a fool of yourself.

 

[Muse]

Fair reply, are you macho? Are you obsessive?

 

[Muse]

Where's my popcorn and troll repellant?

You must supply your own.

 

[janas19]

Atheists don't do things in the name of atheism. Perhaps you should look up the definition of the word so you don't continue to make a fool of yourself.

Why not? It's a reasonable question. If atheism is a true belief system or movement, who are the heroes? The people who made sacrifices with their blood sweat amd tears to show their passion and devotion to the belief of the non-existence of God?

 

[etrigan420]

Why not? It's a reasonable question. If atheism is a true belief system or movement, who are the heroes? The people who made sacrifices with their blood sweat amd tears to show their passion and devotion to the belief of the non-existence of God?

What does this apparent lack of heroes have to do with Atheists being "effeminate"?

I don't think it means what you think it means...

Oh, and it's a stupid question.

 

[dighn]

Why not? It's a reasonable question. If atheism is a true belief system or movement, who are the heroes? The people who made sacrifices with their blood sweat amd tears to show their passion and devotion to the belief of the non-existence of God?

is it really so hard to understand the concept of "not believing"? non-belief does not mean belief of the opposite.

 

[jlee]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2225598

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No, just nerdy.

 

[zerocool84]

Atheists may be effeminate but at least they don't have sex with little boys.

 

[janas19]

Well you can belittle the question sir, but that is not an answer.

Effeminate can have different meanings in different contexts. In this case it doesn't mean homoerotocism, it means a lack of guts, courage, ie cowardly.

 

[lyssword]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Censorship

 

[jlee]

Well you can belittle the question sir, but that is not an answer.

Effeminate can have different meanings in different contexts. In this case it doesn't mean homoerotocism, it means a lack of guts, courage, ie cowardly.

ef·fem·i·nate   [adj. ih-fem-uh-nit; v. ih-fem-uh-neyt] Show IPA adjective, verb, -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
adjective
1.
(of a man or boy) having traits, tastes, habits, etc., traditionally considered feminine, as softness or delicacy.
2.
characterized by excessive softness, delicacy, self-indulgence, etc.: effeminate luxury.
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
3.
to make or become effeminate.

Definition of EFFEMINATE

1
: having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
2
: marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement <effeminate art> <an effeminate civilization>

Never heard of Richard Dawkins? Christopher Hitchens?

 

[janas19]

Atheists may be effeminate but at least they don't have sex with little boys.

A black mark on so-called religious figures. I can't even argue with that.

 

[janas19]

Never heard of Richard Dawkins? Christopher Hitchens?

I've heard the names, but I'm not familiar with how they championed atheism.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Well you can belittle the question sir, but that is not an answer.

Effeminate can have different meanings in different contexts. In this case it doesn't mean homoerotocism, it means a lack of guts, courage, ie cowardly.

How would it be cowardly for an atheist to claim to convert to violent religion X to save his life? It's all he has, and doing so is just being practical.

Many religious people converted in light of genocide, btw.

 

[Ryland]

Why exactly would an atheist "do" something in the name of atheism? It's NOT a religion thus they wouldn't be doing something in the name of it.

 

[etrigan420]

I've heard the names, but I'm not familiar with how they championed atheism.

Uhhh...I don't think you understand what atheism is either.

is it really so hard to understand the concept of "not believing"? non-belief does not mean belief of the opposite.

 

[janas19]

No you're deflecting the original point. The OP is what we are discussing, not the reasons for conversion (in a religious context)

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

OP has so many non sequiturs and misconceptions it's hard to know where to start.

 

[janas19]

OP has so many non sequiturs and misconceptions it's hard to know where to start.

I thought it was fairly logical, but perhaps I'm wrong. So, what did I misconceive? *wry smile*

 

[CallMeJoe]

I'm not sure how one may impugn the courage of a group for failing to sacrifice themselves in the defense of nothing.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Fair question: is the OP an attention whore?

 

[jlee]

Ok, so before you exorciate me, let me explain the premise.

In spite of the glaring hypocrisies of so-called religious leaders, if you look at the history of religion you will see that some people have actually done some very heroic acts for their religion. For example, Jesus was basically flailed but he survived. Early Christians were fed to lions and brutalized, yet they didn't recant. In spite of the corruption, some amazing and notable things have spawned from Christianity.

Now let's examine the flip side. When I say atheist and heroic, who do you picture? My exposure to atheists, up until creating this thread at least, have been surly, excessive grumblers and whiners who complain when their child has to say the pledge of allegiance in school.

It's a fair but true question, what atheist has done something extraordinary or historic in the name of atheism? Just wondering if someone can enlighten me, because I haven't seen any yet.

So what are you asking - what trials and tribulations have atheists endured without recanting from a lack of a belief? How do you do that, anyway? "I no longer believe that I no longer believe"?

Atheism is a lack of a belief, not a belief. How is that so hard to understand?