Falkland War Part 2?

[JohnOfSheffield]

Maybe its just me but I think the person pretending he's in the SAS is the one who shouldn't be roaming free!

Well that you noticed, that someone wanted to bomb the UK or wishing the end of the UK you didn't notice?

Obviously i made a joke. You and the French kicked our arse, we couldn't have allowed or disallowed anything even if we wanted to.

Christ, humourless historyless twats reside inside these forums and all they have is questioning my background when i hand them the slapback so freely.

I really don't give a sheit if you think i'm with the SAS or not so you can drop that schtick and go with the handouts i'm serving in the future.

 

[CanOWorms]

Not sure what statements you're referring to exactly but I wouldn't put it past him. In any case by 'here' I mean England, and yes Berlusconi is an embaressment to the whole of Europe, but I can find you a long list of American politician who've made racist remarks too

Sure, you can. But it would have no bearing on how European leaders view Obama and how he views them.

And what, exactly, is your plan for disabling our government without killing the lot of us? This could be interesting... oh I just thought of another common phrase... 'regime change'...

All anyone has to do is capture the royal family. The entire country would capitulate. When society is structured around a caste system with an extremely focused upper caste, it's easy to manipulate.

Plus, the UK has been a puppet of the US for quite some time and used to being defeated. Argentina can get the Falklands during this phase, too.

 

[CanOWorms]

There would be no way, we're hardarses when we need to be and we take the role we need to take when we need to take it, that is how we survived since long before the US was even something that was a known landfill, after that, we dumped all of our undesirables there, pretended that we didn't and voila, after a few hundred years of inbreeding we have the US, the land where yeehaw and guns means more than intelligence and logic.

Sheit, if we had known you would take yourselves so seriously we would never have allowed you to roam free.

It's really brazen for someone from the UK to talk about inbreeding when it's the home of the most famous family of inbreds AND the inbreeding is worshipped! Plus, it's not like diversity is very popular there (see popularity of BNP).

 

[RabidMongoose]

There would be no way, we're hardarses when we need to be and we take the role we need to take when we need to take it, that is how we survived since long before the US was even something that was a known landfill, after that, we dumped all of our undesirables there, pretended that we didn't and voila, after a few hundred years of inbreeding we have the US, the land where yeehaw and guns means more than intelligence and logic.

Sheit, if we had known you would take yourselves so seriously we would never have allowed you to roam free.

Hahaha, oh my. Let's get real - the Brits are American dogs. They aren't 'hardarses' or anything like that...they're mindless American dogs and if their owner (the US) wanted them to give the Falklands to Argentina, they would obey like the good dogs that they are...now we just need the US to realize that the UK needs to be contained and the disease of their empire cannot be allowed to fester throughout the world.

 

[ichy]

There would be enough of planes in the air to obliterate any and all strategic targets.

You have to realise that as a war escalates, so do the means to fight it.

There was a projection of power doctrine from Thatcher that would have led to a ground invasion and yes, it would have been just as possible as the UK bringing troops to the ground half way around the earth 30 years before that.

There's no possible way that the UK could've invaded Argentina. Liberating the Falklands was tough enough. There's also no way they could have thrown a significant number of planes against them, there were no nearby land bases and flying a single Vulcan to bomb the airfield at Stanley gobbled up a huge portion of the RAF's tanker resources. By the early 1980s the UK had mostly given up on global power projection, and retaking the Falklands was already enough of a challenge. Anything more than that is a fantasy.

 

[alphatarget1]

There's no possible way that the UK could've invaded Argentina. Liberating the Falklands was tough enough. There's also no way they could have thrown a significant number of planes against them, there were no nearby land bases and flying a single Vulcan to bomb the airfield at Stanley gobbled up a huge portion of the RAF's tanker resources. By the early 1980s the UK had mostly given up on global power projection, and retaking the Falklands was already enough of a challenge. Anything more than that is a fantasy.

But Britain has nukes and she could've nuked the entire Argentina... Maybe Thatcher was crazy enough to use her snuke if it came to that.

 

[Atheus]

All anyone has to do is capture the royal family. The entire country would capitulate. When society is structured around a caste system with an extremely focused upper caste, it's easy to manipulate.

This is a serious contender for the stupidest thing ever posted on this board. It's hard to unpick how many layers of wrong exist in that simple post.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hahaha, oh my. Let's get real - the Brits are American dogs. They aren't 'hardarses' or anything like that...they're mindless American dogs and if their owner (the US) wanted them to give the Falklands to Argentina, they would obey like the good dogs that they are...now we just need the US to realize that the UK needs to be contained and the disease of their empire cannot be allowed to fester throughout the world.

What has the UK done to deserve such frothing venom?

I think you're 100 years late to the party.

 

[KMFJD]

But Britain has nukes and she could've nuked the entire Argentina... Maybe Thatcher was crazy enough to use her snuke if it came to that.

I'd think even a warning blast of the coast would have been enough to stop anything from escelating.

 

[ichy]

But Britain has nukes and she could've nuked the entire Argentina... Maybe Thatcher was crazy enough to use her snuke if it came to that.

Over the Falklands? I don't think so. More realistically the RN's submarines could've easily closed down all of Argentina's major ports. The economic harm from that would've probably been enough to get them to back down.

 

[KMFJD]

Whew...i was getting worried, Clinton's on the job now

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/mar/02/clinton-us-britain-argentina-falklands-oil

 

[KMFJD]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...val-campaign-to-isolate-Falkland-Islands.html

Mrs Kirchner used the last UN General Assembly meeting to put Argentina’s claims of sovereignty over the Falklands on a par with Palestinian claims to statehood.

lol, crazy Argies

 

[Genx87]

I hate old bumps

 

[ichy]

Well, the UK has apparently thrown up its hands and given up on being a world power so it's no surprise the Argies are getting more daring.

 

[tommo123]

What has the UK done to deserve such frothing venom?

I think you're 100 years late to the party.

he was dumped by a british guy and channels his rage onto the royal family (who most of us couldn't give 2 shits about btw).

 

[CanOWorms]

Well, the UK has apparently thrown up its hands and given up on being a world power so it's no surprise the Argies are getting more daring.

It's not like they can be a world power even if they wanted to be one. Sooner or later, they're going to lose their grip on the Falklands. They'll probably lose many other overseas territories, too.

 

[Infohawk]

What has the UK done to deserve such frothing venom?

I think you're 100 years late to the party.

CanOWorms/Rabid are trolls specializing in Anglophobia. The real question is what psychological defect causes them to be so irrational. The answer is that they are angry that their ancestral land of South Asia was colonized by the English.

 

[hal2kilo]

Wow, the last vestiges of colonialism are being debated. One day we will get a clue.

 

[ichy]

Wow, the last vestiges of colonialism are being debated. One day we will get a clue.

The Falklands are NOT a vestige of colonialism. There was nobody there until the Brits arrived, the population of the islands overwhelmingly wishes to stay in the UK. Fuck Argentina.

 

[cybrsage]

Since the 1960s the UK had given up on projecting militar power South of Gibraltar or East of Suez. The Royal Navy was equipped to fight the Russians in the North Atlantic, not to mount an amphibious operation halfway around the world. The fact that they were able to win the war was a testament to the skill and professionalism of the UK's armed forces and the incompetence of the Argies.

Agreed.

One other thing the war showed is the vulnerability of the standard carrier vs the super carrier.

 

[cybrsage]

That being said, Britain is one of the few countries that the US can almost give a "blank check" (as the Kaiser would put it) to in regards to military help.

I view the US-UK relationship like that of two brothers (US being the younger brother, UK the older). We had some fights in the past, beat each other up a bit, but as we both matured we became as close as only brothers can be. We will willingly bleed for each other.

We will always have the occasional spat...just as brothers do..but we will always be there for each other as well.

 

[dawheat]

Agreed.

One other thing the war showed is the vulnerability of the standard carrier vs the super carrier.

I wonder if this type of conflict would be done in this way again. If the UK had the political will to actually sink both military and merchant vessels, they could use their SSNs to lock down the region. I doubt Argentina has the ability to search and destroy a SSN with 60s/70s era destroyers and SSKs.