Fallout 3 impressions

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Elcs
7) Picking locks is frustrating and hacking terminals too easy.

Funny, I find picking locks really easy and hacking terminals a hassle

 

[DangerAardvark]

I've noticed that science 100 really makes a difference. Some terminals only have 5 words to choose from.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Elcs
7) Picking locks is frustrating and hacking terminals too easy.

Funny, I find picking locks really easy and hacking terminals a hassle

Locks you need Bobby Pins for and if you arent talented with the keyboard, can lead to many pins being lost for very little happening.

Terminals... fail 3 times, come out, go back in... 4 attempts to try again. They'll never get perma-locked if you take your time.

EDIT: May depend on Science Skill

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: Elcs

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Elcs
7) Picking locks is frustrating and hacking terminals too easy.

Funny, I find picking locks really easy and hacking terminals a hassle

Locks you need Bobby Pins for and if you arent talented with the keyboard, can lead to many pins being lost for very little happening.

Terminals... fail 3 times, come out, go back in... 4 attempts to try again. They'll never get perma-locked if you take your time.

EDIT: May depend on Science Skill

Gotta agree there. Lock picking gets annoying, especially after breaking 2 bobbypins on an easy lock cause you weren't 'jiving' that day.

When I started hacking, I would take a long time try to figure out the pattern and find the brackets to get the bonuses. Now, I just pick 3, hope I get it or hope I find at least 3 letters in the pattern, then start comparing. The last few times that I've hacked, I got the right word just by guessing thrice.

 

[Onita]

Just finished the game. Was a lot of fun, but, the main story line I felt was short and the ending... bleh. I did put in a good amount of time though, doing side quests and what not.

 

[DannyLove]

I'm currently level 17, and I've contributed countless hours in i'm sure.
I've only done a bit of the main quest (Reached Vault 112 and entered Tranquility Lane (hilarious!!!)).
I've done numerous side quests and I have explored sooooooooooooo many areas and I have all of the West, North West and North East to explore.
I really didn't know what to expect from this game as I think I only managed to play Fallout 1 for a few minutes back in the day and I never went back to this series until now.
I love the random-ness of this game, but the only thing I wish it had was better crafting on apparel / weapons.
I've had the same armor since I was level 9. I have a Talon Security armor and the Ghoul mask, thats it. The Talon armor was from Tenny's Tower or whtaever that place was. Beyond that, every other armor sucks (besides the heavy brotherhood armor but I haven't looked into getting it)

My House is stacked with items that I've collected over this time period.

 

[Keeper]

What level should I be before leaving Megatron?

 

[rstove02]

Originally posted by: Keeper
What level should I be before leaving Megatron?

Hmm you sure your playing Fallout 3 and not Transformers?

If you wind up not blowing the town up (i.e. going the good route) then Megaton will be your base of operations for a long time. You can eventually find another place to call home, but chances are your not gonna find all the amenities that Megaton or Tenpenny Tower will provide (i.e. places to sell, home furshings, etc). So you will never truly "leave" Megaton for good.

 

[SpunkyJones]

Originally posted by: Keeper
What level should I be before leaving Megatron?

Just leave when you want, don't worry too much about levels, if you go some where and get your ass kicked instantly, go some where else.

 

[Keeper]

LOL Megatron... DOUGH...


No, I was just wondering... As I am doing thos scientific research missions..

I just went to the Walmart type store.. Unlocked the robot... Never died...
He did help GREATLY in one wave though.

I was worried I either have this game set too low for difficulty
I hung around too long... Or something..

I am not liking the fact 4 levels and I have only died once and that was becuase I went and got a soda (thought I hit escape AKA Pause) and some radioactive mole had his way with me.

Radio active Moles... Dogs... Even those guys in the Walmart type store (Find food and Meds):
No problem. One thing I will concur with, No VATS, the FPS part of this game SUCKS.
Very arcadish and low level.

Still loving it though, but it has made me jones to boot up KOTOR 1. Go figure.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: rstove02

Originally posted by: Keeper
What level should I be before leaving Megatron?

Hmm you sure your playing Fallout 3 and not Transformers?

If you wind up not blowing the town up (i.e. going the good route) then Megaton will be your base of operations for a long time. You can eventually find another place to call home, but chances are your not gonna find all the amenities that Megaton or Tenpenny Tower will provide (i.e. places to sell, home furshings, etc). So you will never truly "leave" Megaton for good.

Even though I use Rivet City and Tenpenny for most of my selling, I use my Megaton house as a storage so everything leads back there. The towns people chasing after you to give you stuff gets annoying after a while though.

 

[MTDEW]

Originally posted by: Keeper
LOL Megatron... DOUGH...


No, I was just wondering... As I am doing thos scientific research missions..

I just went to the Walmart type store.. Unlocked the robot... Never died...
He did help GREATLY in one wave though.

I was worried I either have this game set too low for difficulty
I hung around too long... Or something..

I am not liking the fact 4 levels and I have only died once and that was becuase I went and got a soda (thought I hit escape AKA Pause) and some radioactive mole had his way with me.

Radio active Moles... Dogs... Even those guys in the Walmart type store (Find food and Meds):
No problem. One thing I will concur with, No VATS, the FPS part of this game SUCKS.
Very arcadish and low level.

Still loving it though, but it has made me jones to boot up KOTOR 1. Go figure.

Dont worry, enemies get harder and you'll start to meet more than just dogs and moles while just wandering.

Plus, if you ask me, the quests and NPCs get better and more interesting than the "survival guide" quests that you're doing now. (im assuming youre doing the survival guide quest from your description)

As to what level you should be before leaving Megaton...doesnt matter and will vary greatly from person to person depending on quests chosen etc...etc..

At first you'll worry about leveling up and before you know it you're worried about capping at level 20.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I've put around 25 hours into the game so far. I'm level 15 and I'm right at the beginning of the final main story quest. I've done probably 20% of the optional quests so far. May go ahead and beat the game, then reload a save and do some more questing. May just drop it, since I have so many other games to play.

 

[MTDEW]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I've put around 25 hours into the game so far. I'm level 15 and I'm right at the beginning of the final main story quest. I've done probably 20% of the optional quests so far. May go ahead and beat the game, then reload a save and do some more questing. May just drop it, since I have so many other games to play.

Nooooooo...Don't do it! :laugh:
I did that just to see the ending and wish i hadn't , i still plan to reload an old saved game and do the quests i missed but its just not the same.

Actually i already reloaded and did one thing i wanted to do opposite than b4 in Megaton cuz i was curious what would happen if i did it differently.

Not sure how many % wise of the side missions i did, but i do know when i do reload an old save, im going back to where i no longer have the explorer perk cuz it makes exploring less fun.

Think im gonna play Dead Space to take a break and just mindlessly kill some stuff for awhile.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: fallout man

Originally posted by: 9mak9
just as a cool little thing if you havent seen...sneak up to a Brahmin and then press your action button and watch the cow tip

must try.

i've put up the lvl 30 mod, and assorted "making life harder" mods from f3 nexus. so far, it's going pretty great. i'm finding myself leveling up, and i haven't really even gone outside of the megaton area...

*spoilers*








surprisingly, I've gained lots of xp just by going back and forth around the Megaton area. the most far-reaching quests I've done so far have been the Big Town captives rescue, Lucy West's message (through Arefu and all), and the crazy shopkeeper's book quest over at the mine-town with the crazy old sniper guy.







****

I'm frankly, overwhelmed at the amount of content that's been packed into this game. There are random encounters and all, and the huge map seems small if you don't account for the hours of underground/indoor exploration.

The modding community seems to have briskly picked up to fix basic reality/gameplay flaws. I'm really hoping for expansions to make the map twice as big.

I've been enjoying more randomness and curiosity with this game than I've enjoyed with WoW in my first 20 hours. I apologize to the NMA folks, but this game kicks ass.




*spoilers*










Because I tend to restart from the last save quite a bit, I've been encountering completely random "encounters" going over the same 100 meters of map over the hill from the save point.

One instance--some raiders are passing by and try to kick my ass.

Another instance--PipBoy picks up a Chinese beacon radio signal... I trace down the source by going after signal intensity... and I find a dead Chinaman officer with his loot.

And again, I find a corpse with a personal note giving a back-story of family conflict and directions/key to a stash in an area I haven't explored yet.

This level of variety has happened at other save points. I LOVE THE RANDOM.

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


I once came upon a two pairs of wastelanders in a standoff over water. I should have saved before the encounter since there were a few ways I could have pushed that one.

 

[shortylickens]

Am suprised that no one in this entire thread had mentioned Rifts yet.

Or does it happen that I am the biggest nerd here and all you guys dont know what I'm referencing?

Playing through the first few missions and going to Rivet City I got a very strong sense of Rifts being ripped off, much more than Fallout 1 and 2 ever did.

 

[HumblePie]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: fallout man

Originally posted by: 9mak9
just as a cool little thing if you havent seen...sneak up to a Brahmin and then press your action button and watch the cow tip

must try.

i've put up the lvl 30 mod, and assorted "making life harder" mods from f3 nexus. so far, it's going pretty great. i'm finding myself leveling up, and i haven't really even gone outside of the megaton area...

*spoilers*








surprisingly, I've gained lots of xp just by going back and forth around the Megaton area. the most far-reaching quests I've done so far have been the Big Town captives rescue, Lucy West's message (through Arefu and all), and the crazy shopkeeper's book quest over at the mine-town with the crazy old sniper guy.







****

I'm frankly, overwhelmed at the amount of content that's been packed into this game. There are random encounters and all, and the huge map seems small if you don't account for the hours of underground/indoor exploration.

The modding community seems to have briskly picked up to fix basic reality/gameplay flaws. I'm really hoping for expansions to make the map twice as big.

I've been enjoying more randomness and curiosity with this game than I've enjoyed with WoW in my first 20 hours. I apologize to the NMA folks, but this game kicks ass.




*spoilers*










Because I tend to restart from the last save quite a bit, I've been encountering completely random "encounters" going over the same 100 meters of map over the hill from the save point.

One instance--some raiders are passing by and try to kick my ass.

Another instance--PipBoy picks up a Chinese beacon radio signal... I trace down the source by going after signal intensity... and I find a dead Chinaman officer with his loot.

And again, I find a corpse with a personal note giving a back-story of family conflict and directions/key to a stash in an area I haven't explored yet.

This level of variety has happened at other save points. I LOVE THE RANDOM.

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


I once came upon a two pairs of wastelanders in a standoff over water. I should have saved before the encounter since there were a few ways I could have pushed that one.

Oh shut up. But in this case, the guy was right with China man. Why? Because that guy is NOT an American. America and China were at nuclear war and you just found a left over Chinese corpse. Hence, China man. If you have more stupid stuff to say, take it to P&N please.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: HumblePie

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


I once came upon a two pairs of wastelanders in a standoff over water. I should have saved before the encounter since there were a few ways I could have pushed that one.

Oh shut up. But in this case, the guy was right with China man. Why? Because that guy is NOT an American. America and China were at nuclear war and you just found a left over Chinese corpse. Hence, China man. If you have more stupid stuff to say, take it to P&N please.

You're out of your element. Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here.

 

[imported_Imp]

Edit: Overreaction to overreaction. Must stop neffing at work half-asleep.

 

[newb111]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: HumblePie

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: fallout man
...
Another instance--PipBoy picks up a Chinese beacon radio signal... I trace down the source by going after signal intensity... and I find a dead Chinaman officer with his loot.
...

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


I once came upon a two pairs of wastelanders in a standoff over water. I should have saved before the encounter since there were a few ways I could have pushed that one.

Oh shut up. But in this case, the guy was right with China man. Why? Because that guy is NOT an American. America and China were at nuclear war and you just found a left over Chinese corpse. Hence, China man. If you have more stupid stuff to say, take it to P&N please.

Wow, wow, wow. Talk about overreacting to a completely sensible, polite and reasonable disagreement to nomenclature. I let 9mak9 slide cause he didn't seem to mean anything by it, Born2bwire just disagreed nicely, so chill out. Chinaman IS derogatory. You don't go calling people U.S. man, Korea man, America man, Canada man, United Kingdom man, India man, Japan man or African man. You use Chinaman cause you probably heard it elsewhere before in movies (both old and new), or just ignorant people as a put down to Chinese people.

If you want to put it in context of war (why, we're not in one, it's a game) and hating your enemy, why not just call him ch**k or g**k? Asian, Chinese man, Chinese dude, Chinese corpse, asian man, oriental, East Asian, the enemy, Charlie and so many other words that could be used.

You both completely missed the point and went into racial tirades for no reason. The quote "Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please." is from the movie The Big Lebowski, and was in no way a serious comment on the use of the phrase chinaman.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: newb111

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: HumblePie

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: fallout man
...
Another instance--PipBoy picks up a Chinese beacon radio signal... I trace down the source by going after signal intensity... and I find a dead Chinaman officer with his loot.
...

Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


I once came upon a two pairs of wastelanders in a standoff over water. I should have saved before the encounter since there were a few ways I could have pushed that one.

Oh shut up. But in this case, the guy was right with China man. Why? Because that guy is NOT an American. America and China were at nuclear war and you just found a left over Chinese corpse. Hence, China man. If you have more stupid stuff to say, take it to P&N please.

Wow, wow, wow. Talk about overreacting to a completely sensible, polite and reasonable disagreement to nomenclature. I let 9mak9 slide cause he didn't seem to mean anything by it, Born2bwire just disagreed nicely, so chill out. Chinaman IS derogatory. You don't go calling people U.S. man, Korea man, America man, Canada man, United Kingdom man, India man, Japan man or African man. You use Chinaman cause you probably heard it elsewhere before in movies (both old and new), or just ignorant people as a put down to Chinese people.

If you want to put it in context of war (why, we're not in one, it's a game) and hating your enemy, why not just call him ch**k or g**k? Asian, Chinese man, Chinese dude, Chinese corpse, asian man, oriental, East Asian, the enemy, Charlie and so many other words that could be used.

You both completely missed the point and went into racial tirades for no reason. The quote "Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please." is from the movie The Big Lebowski, and was in no way a serious comment on the use of the phrase chinaman.

What the fuck are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: newb111
You both completely missed the point and went into racial tirades for no reason. The quote "Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please." is from the movie The Big Lebowski, and was in no way a serious comment on the use of the phrase chinaman.

Well, I fell asleep while watching that movie, so that's my excuse.

 

[EvilComputer92]

Fallout 3 modding tools have just been announced to be released in December

link

 

[imported_Imp]

From Press Release:
Operation: Anchorage: Enter a military simulation and fight in one of the greatest battles of the Fallout universe ? the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska from its Chinese Communist invaders. An action-packed battle scheduled for release in January.

The Pitt: Journey to the industrial raider town called The Pitt, located in the remains of Pittsburgh. Choose your side. Scheduled for release in February.

Broken Steel: Join the ranks of the Brotherhood of Steel and rid the Capital Wasteland of the Enclave remnants once and for all. Continues the adventure past the main quest. Scheduled for release in March.

*Hyperventilating*

Holy crap, real add ons! No horse armor crap or new doll houses this time.

Hope they raise the level cap and add Perks/Skills in the future.

 

[smackguy]

....Continues the adventure past the main quest. DROOL....