Fallout 4 is really coming

[gorcorps]

I wonder if consoles will run the game at 60FPS?

It's kind of a slow game and I don't think the previous ones did, so I would highly doubt it.

 

[Bman123]

It's nice to wish it will run at 60fps but more then likely not

 

[cmdrdredd]

I think i played Fallout 3 originally at 45fps and didn't care lol.

 

[Qbah]

Well for me it's more about the smoothness, doesn't matter if the game is slow paced or not... The Last of Us on PS4 is a perfect way to feel the difference... I couldn't stand the 30fps lock after playing it unlocked. Anyway, since it's coming in November, I'll be most likely already after my PC upgrade :awe: So I'll probably get it on Steam... Not to mention PS4 is getting modding as last, if at all.

 

[zerocool84]

That's what I've been saying all along. Fallout is more about the experience then the graphics. The game doesn't look like shit and for some reason people expected the game to look amazing.

No, we just expect it to not look like a game from 10yrs ago. Their engine is just dated that's why. I really liked Fallout 3 and will be playing 4 on day one but 4 is not a great looking game.

 

[cmdrdredd]

No, we just expect it to not look like a game from 10yrs ago. Their engine is just dated that's why. I really liked Fallout 3 and will be playing 4 on day one but 4 is not a great looking game.

This is what I've been saying and all the fanboys in the thread on the PC Gaming section act like you strangled a kitten if you even suggest that Fallout 4 might not be the best game ever. None of us have played it but we have all seen or have access to the trailers and videos and I am not impressed with how it looks. I'm sorry if that bursts the fanboy bubble for some.

 

[Bman123]

Fallout has some hardcore fans, and I'm sure the pc section is pretty bad with fanboys.

I'm not expecting uncharted 4 graphics by any means. With how games have been lately we have to wait til it's playing on our system to see the real deal. Prime example, watchdogs at E3, the Witcher 3 at E3, those games looked fucking amazing and when they released they looked nothing like what we saw at e3

I'm fine with how the game looked, yeah it could look better but whatever. I'd rather it look the way it did at E3 and run at 60fps then be mislead and have a totally different looking game when it releases

 

[Lil Frier]

Yeah, I just kind of accepted it (hopefully) as Bethesda's decision to show actual visuals, rather than the typical act of using pre-rendered stuff, then having release graphics worse (Forza 5, looking at your in-game fans, though not from the side, because they're 2D). The game looks acceptable, foliage isn't great, but it's not like Fallout 3 was good-looking, and how many folks still enjoy it to this day?

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. If they then cut graphical content from what we saw at E3, that's going to be pretty gross-looking.

 

[JujuFish]

This is what I've been saying and all the fanboys in the thread on the PC Gaming section act like you strangled a kitten if you even suggest that Fallout 4 might not be the best game ever. None of us have played it but we have all seen or have access to the trailers and videos and I am not impressed with how it looks. I'm sorry if that bursts the fanboy bubble for some.

I don't think you understand how illogical that last sentence is. People don't play Fallout for the graphics, so when you say you're not impressed with the graphics, it's like saying water is wet. No bursting of bubbles to be had.

 

[Bman123]

Unfortunately a lot of people won't look at it the same way you and I do about the graphics. It's all about the gameplay for me

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't think you understand how illogical that last sentence is. People don't play Fallout for the graphics, so when you say you're not impressed with the graphics, it's like saying water is wet. No bursting of bubbles to be had.

Oh really? Have you even looked at the other thread? It's so obvious that people are overly defensive for zero reason. Especially funny when people try to compare the character models and animations we have seen to the witcher 3 and claim they are better.

Nobody was saying the game was going to be bad but that seems to be what people think when you criticize the engine a bit or the character models and texturing.

 

[sze5003]

The gaming engine looks dated but I just hope its as good a story driven game as witcher 3. I've gotten used to doing lots of quests, exploring so I may like it. But I'll wait and see since its not out for a while.

I may just get it for xbox one or maybe PC anyway. I plan on upgrading my pc anyway once I see the reviews of the fury x this Wednesday.

 

[Bman123]

If you like exploring you should love fallout 4

 

[sze5003]

Yea the exploring in witcher 3 is fast because you have a horse. Of course there will be fast travel too but the land in the witcher isn't empty there is always something. In fallout it is all empty but that's expected due to a post apocalyptic setting. I'm hoping I'll like it I'm just not expecting a great story in general.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yea the exploring in witcher 3 is fast because you have a horse. Of course there will be fast travel too but the land in the witcher isn't empty there is always something. In fallout it is all empty but that's expected due to a post apocalyptic setting. I'm hoping I'll like it I'm just not expecting a great story in general.

Part of the joy of playing the witcher for me was running everywhere with no horse and taking routes through fields, over hills and mountains, finding caves and abandoned villages you didn't know we're there, and the random monster or bear attack. The problem with the witcher 3 was that sometimes you might find a location that activates a quest out of the order it is supposed to be in and cause the quest to be unfinishable.

 

[ImpulsE69]

You guys complaining about graphics are ignoring the elephant in the room.

It is kind of ironic to watch the console only crowd complain about the graphics, when the consoles are the biggest reason no one bothers to try to push anything anymore. PC fanboyism or not, the consoles are why we are in the state we are in. This is what the PC elitists have been talking about for years.

Having been a heavy gamer on both sides throughout the years, I've seen the shifts in technology, and gaming going from only the nerdy kid hobby to it becoming mainstream to the all out disdain for the consumers.

With all of that came the 'lowest common denominator' for most sales possible, which was helmed by the shift away from PC primary development, and this attitude that all platforms have to look the same as to not offend anyone. PC's were the only reason graphics got pushed to their limits and new engines developed. Now with the newest consoles, what is there to push? They are the equivalent of last gen PC's. You are now seeing this on the console side, because they are developing for last gen systems. Even if FO4 doesn't come out on PS3/360 it was started during that time and probably intended to be on it.

All in all, we are exactly where everyone knew we would be. Devs taking the easy way out, and now everyone is complaining about it. The only way that will change is if more people shift to PC gaming and ignore the consoles. However, at this time I don't think that would help since so many companies are on the cusp of dropping console/pc gaming completely and going mobile where the real masses are. Why make a 100million dollar game that may or may not sell when you can make a casual mobile game for 10k, sell it for $15 an make a fortune (or the pay to play way as well).

 

[cmdrdredd]

You guys complaining about graphics are ignoring the elephant in the room.

It is kind of ironic to watch the console only crowd complain about the graphics, when the consoles are the biggest reason no one bothers to try to push anything anymore. PC fanboyism or not, the consoles are why we are in the state we are in. This is what the PC elitists have been talking about for years.

Having been a heavy gamer on both sides throughout the years, I've seen the shifts in technology, and gaming going from only the nerdy kid hobby to it becoming mainstream to the all out disdain for the consumers.

With all of that came the 'lowest common denominator' for most sales possible, which was helmed by the shift away from PC primary development, and this attitude that all platforms have to look the same as to not offend anyone. PC's were the only reason graphics got pushed to their limits and new engines developed. Now with the newest consoles, what is there to push? They are the equivalent of last gen PC's. You are now seeing this on the console side, because they are developing for last gen systems. Even if FO4 doesn't come out on PS3/360 it was started during that time and probably intended to be on it.

All in all, we are exactly where everyone knew we would be. Devs taking the easy way out, and now everyone is complaining about it.

I am tired of seeing that scapegoat to cover for developers who do not have a gun to their head and choose not to actually use the extra horsepower of a good PC. Nobody forces a developer to make the game the same across platforms. You can and should create 4096x4096 textures, higher poly count models, better lighting models etc then scale those assets for the platforms individually IMO. It's not really more work to provide the original assets for people who can use them on their PC.

Your last sentence sums it up. Devs take the easy way out. I play lots of games on all platforms. PC, xb1, ps4 and before that I had 360 and PS3 and before that dreamcast, ps2, original Xbox going way back to nes. I never had every console but I appreciate the PC for the better graphics which is primarily why I choose a game on PC over ps4 or xb1. Mods are another part but with the xb1 game getting mod support that may become something that is no longer a PC exclusive feature.

On the mobile idea, games like gta5 prove that gaming is an extremely profitable entertainment medium. So I don't think mobile gaming will ever take over. The game experience also isn't the same and obviously people still demand more than you can do on your iPhone.

 

[zerocool84]

You guys complaining about graphics are ignoring the elephant in the room.

It is kind of ironic to watch the console only crowd complain about the graphics, when the consoles are the biggest reason no one bothers to try to push anything anymore. PC fanboyism or not, the consoles are why we are in the state we are in. This is what the PC elitists have been talking about for years.

Having been a heavy gamer on both sides throughout the years, I've seen the shifts in technology, and gaming going from only the nerdy kid hobby to it becoming mainstream to the all out disdain for the consumers.

With all of that came the 'lowest common denominator' for most sales possible, which was helmed by the shift away from PC primary development, and this attitude that all platforms have to look the same as to not offend anyone. PC's were the only reason graphics got pushed to their limits and new engines developed. Now with the newest consoles, what is there to push? They are the equivalent of last gen PC's. You are now seeing this on the console side, because they are developing for last gen systems. Even if FO4 doesn't come out on PS3/360 it was started during that time and probably intended to be on it.

All in all, we are exactly where everyone knew we would be. Devs taking the easy way out, and now everyone is complaining about it. The only way that will change is if more people shift to PC gaming and ignore the consoles. However, at this time I don't think that would help since so many companies are on the cusp of dropping console/pc gaming completely and going mobile where the real masses are. Why make a 100million dollar game that may or may not sell when you can make a casual mobile game for 10k, sell it for $15 an make a fortune (or the pay to play way as well).

Wow, I didn't know this was the first generation for consoles ever!!! It obviously must be because then PC game developers would have never had to port games to consoles ever.

Hmm and people wonder why no one likes most PC gamers.

 

[Bman123]

Wow, I didn't know this was the first generation for consoles ever!!! It obviously must be because then PC game developers would have never had to port games to consoles ever.

Hmm and people wonder why no one likes most PC gamers.

I'm with you on that one

 

[JujuFish]

Hmm and people wonder why no one likes most PC gamers.

Ah, yes, instead of addressing the points someone makes, let's insult them instead. No wonder places like r/pcmasterrace exist.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Ah, yes, instead of addressing the points someone makes, let's insult them instead. No wonder places like r/pcmasterrace exist.

Some of those places are more of a giant circle jerk for elitists.

There doesn't have to be one or the other, and I am super tired of people blaming consoles for everything they think is wrong with gaming. Then talking about people who play games on console in a negative way calling them peasants etc. It's just unnecessary and doesn't paint a good picture for the community. It's a little like FPS and fighting game elitists who call someone a scrub when they complain about a game mechanic that they disagree with and respond with "get gud". It's pretty pathetic if you ask me. There's no reason someone can't play games on both PC and consoles. Especially when people seem to forget that if consoles weren't as popular as they are, there wouldn't be as many developers making games.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Wow, I didn't know this was the first generation for consoles ever!!! It obviously must be because then PC game developers would have never had to port games to consoles ever.

Hmm and people wonder why no one likes most PC gamers.

I didn't know you didn't have reading comprehension skills. Big difference between porting PC -> Console and porting Console -> PC. Not really sure what you mean by your remark since it doesn't apply to what I said at all. No wonder PC gamers tend to think console players tend to be dim.

You can deny it all you want, but the mass marketing and lifespans of consoles are why companies are the way they are now. It is easy money. No reason to complain about it, we did it to ourselves by continuously buying half finished buggy products (at retail) and defending said companies with "but it costs so much to make a game!", like people forget 50% of their cost is marketing. You think they were suddenly just going to change because omg new console gen? We're still on games that were started before these were close to being ready. It happened around right around the 360/PS3 era, that is when things started to severely swing in a negative fashion (but let's keep pretending you don't understand that). Their model isn't make it the best it can look. It is make it run across all these platforms and don't make it look/run better on 'this platform' than 'this platform'. You can not like it all you want, but it is the truth. You will never get bleeding edge by trying to market mass appeal. TW3 is really a prime example of this in the graphics dept. Thankfully it is still a great game.

Let's be real, I'm far from a PC elitist. I'm playing on a 480 in 1080. I've owned a plethora of consoles in my time. I play retro games and emulate tons of old games all the time. I will admit I'm not a huge fan of the 360/PS3 era. I'm just not naive enough to not see how things are evolving to where they are today. I should clarify for those that take things exactly as stated, that when I say 'consoles' I mean development for consoles, not because of consoles. Obviously the devs/publishers and their decisions are the root of the problem, but it all comes down to $$ in their eyes.

 

[Madia]

I wonder if consoles will run the game at 60FPS?

It's been confirmed that both console versions will run at 1080p/30FPS.

 

[Qbah]

It's been confirmed that both console versions will run at 1080p/30FPS.

Thanks, just saw it in my feeds. Oh well.

 

[Andy43]

I'm fine with 1080p/30. Fallout 3 was such a great game that I played it on my 360 from 2008 to just a short while ago. I played it 'til it was empty twice over and then I still kept going back to it just to soak up the amazing atmosphere and knock off a few re-spawned radscorpions etc. Truly, I have never enjoyed a game so much regardless of the graphics. From what I've seen so far, the graphics on F4 look fine and I can't wait to get my hands on it.