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escrow4

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Loading too slow. I've got a 64GB solid state drive laying around somewhere in my junk boxes. I think I'll make it a dedicated Fallout 4 drive.

I have a 500GB EVO and it doesn't seem to help. Load times occasionally approach 15-20 seconds which is unacceptable when you enter an area and then wait around 10 seconds or so for another sub area. I blame the engine. Its 2015 the world should be way more open. I'd say the load times are the worst issue.
 

Markbnj

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Its changed just enough that I'm irritated but not so much that I'm awed.
Frankly, as long as we waited we should have gotten more.

Played another four hours tonight, did the first quest in Concord and then the first build quest back in Sanctuary. Still loving it. There's plenty I can pick on. Dogmeat is goddamn annoying. The load times zoning between cells seem too long, and I have an EVO840 SSD. Not the fastest but no slouch. The power armor was weird. How come it is standing there like a single thing, and I can put it on, and then take it off and it is still standing there, but now I have five individual things in my inventory? Don't get that at all.

But even with the nits it's Fallout... a new Fallout... with a new world not worse than the old world, looks not worse than the old looks, and some cool new things to play with (mods and crafting are awesome now). I mean, if you're a Fallout fan how can you not be happy? How often does a big new open world sandbox dystopic wasteland survival shooter rpg come along? I'll take it.

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I have a 500GB EVO and it doesn't seem to help. Load times occasionally approach 15-20 seconds which is unacceptable when you enter an area and then wait around 10 seconds or so for another sub area. I blame the engine. Its 2015 the world should be way more open. I'd say the load times are the worst issue.

Yeah this. Same drive.
 

Blue_Max

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I wish that building a new home didn't STILL look like it was a bombed-out wreck. Come on... surely you can use skill + more materials to make a house/fortress that looks... new?

Call me picky.
 

Blue_Max

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I wish that building a new home didn't STILL look like it was a bombed-out wreck. Come on... surely you can use skill + more materials to make a house/fortress that looks... new?

Call me picky.

I find that I am fighting off radiation more in this game than the other ones

I'm actually glad of that! Fallout SHOULD be about fighting off radiation! Though maybe not after 200 years...

I was hoping the story might be only 1-5 years after the war of 2077 and radiation would be a REAL threat! This much radiation after 200 years seems... erroneous. (We're not talking cobalt dirty bombs here...)
 

Imp

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Ya, load times kind of suck. Hurts more that there's no load progress bar to shout at.

I've hit the texture bug: low res textures despite being right infront of an object. Most noticeable on walls or murals. I can't tell if my texture setting is too low or it's not loading.

Otherwise, spent over an hour "razing" my town. Those damn picket fences are hard to scrap. Also, don't try to centralize your power generation... Learned that the hard way.
 

ShintaiDK

Lifer
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Hit lvl14 myself yesterday. Remember more legendary encounters and more XP the higher difficulty.
 

Feneant2

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May 26, 2004
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First bug encountered.

I rescued a lady from Raiders. She wont follow me back to her settlement. Just stands there and says dumb crap. No dialog wheel.

That sound like the bug I meant earlier for people being slow or hanging... if it's like what I've encountered, just wait around for a minute or two and eventually she will either talk to you or you'll be able to talk to her. Another way I got it to work is to move my cursor around and then when I come back to the NPC, the dialog wheel magically appears.
 

CurseTheSky

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I don't really understand all of the criticism for the game. It's not perfect, sure, but it feels like two big steps forward from Fallout 3, and only one minor step back in a few aspects from New Vegas (but it still comes out ahead).

- Weapon customization is GREAT. You can do quite a bit to each weapon you find, literally turning a junk pipe rifle that you loot off of the first raiders you encounter into a formidable early-game sniper rifle or battle rifle.
- Junk is actually worth collecting! All of those hot plates and other useless stuff from previous games have a real meaning now, not just a one-time random crafting patter fodder.
- Voice acting seems to be much better.
- Read terminals and notes you find. They really provide a lot of insight into peoples' lives and into why things are the way they are at a location.
- Quests have been interesting so far.

I give it a thumbs up.
 

XiandreX

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I don't really understand all of the criticism for the game. It's not perfect, sure, but it feels like two big steps forward from Fallout 3, and only one minor step back in a few aspects from New Vegas (but it still comes out ahead).

- Weapon customization is GREAT. You can do quite a bit to each weapon you find, literally turning a junk pipe rifle that you loot off of the first raiders you encounter into a formidable early-game sniper rifle or battle rifle.
- Junk is actually worth collecting! All of those hot plates and other useless stuff from previous games have a real meaning now, not just a one-time random crafting patter fodder.
- Voice acting seems to be much better.
- Read terminals and notes you find. They really provide a lot of insight into peoples' lives and into why things are the way they are at a location.
- Quests have been interesting so far.

I give it a thumbs up.

That makes me happy, I am a hoarder as well and I absolutely love crafting.
I still have fond memories of the crafting in Star Wars Galaxies (before the combat rebalance)
 

Stringjam

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I'm having fun so far - about 10 hours in. Much better FPS mechanics than previous games. Combat is actually fun now - whereas in FO3 I quit playing because the gun mechanics were so lame.

Huge environment improvement. No more ugly filters. Good artistic direction. Yeah, the fidelity is pretty low, but I got over that along time ago. As long as there is good level design and good art style, I'm fine with it.

I'm just glad there's a few developers left investing heavily in pure single-player games.


Couple of things I don't care for:
Skyrim stealth mechanic that's based more on leveling than skill

Typical Bethesda writing that leaves me mostly disinterested in the story and other characters. Most NPCs seem to have a "bug off" attitude (well, this is Mass so I guess that's kind of realistic... )

Not complaining though - it's a great game overall.
 
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GusSmed

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- Voice acting seems to be much better.
Generally true, but the Skylanes Flight 1981 Flight Recorder has some of the worst voice acting ever. It's not quite "bored reading of a script," but it's still jarring how fake the fear in the pilot's voice sounds. I honestly think I could do a better job, and that's saying something.

Weapon and armor customization is indeed great. I'm addicted to adding pockets to my armor. Though it does feel like I'm kinda stuck at fairly low quality gear in general at level 11, mostly it's those jury rigged pipe pistols / rifles / revolvers instead of pre-war weapons and variants on leather armor.

The new treatment of radiation is a huge improvement. Radiation was a non-issue in FO3 and NV unless it was strong enough to kill you rapidly. Now I worry about every RAD I take because it's a HP loss I can't heal except with Rad Away. The minor RAD damage from Ghouls is actually a concern, and I never eat radiated food anymore.
 

cbrunny

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Generally true, but the Skylanes Flight 1981 Flight Recorder has some of the worst voice acting ever. It's not quite "bored reading of a script," but it's still jarring how fake the fear in the pilot's voice sounds. I honestly think I could do a better job, and that's saying something.

Weapon and armor customization is indeed great. I'm addicted to adding pockets to my armor. Though it does feel like I'm kinda stuck at fairly low quality gear in general at level 11, mostly it's those jury rigged pipe pistols / rifles / revolvers instead of pre-war weapons and variants on leather armor.

The new treatment of radiation is a huge improvement. Radiation was a non-issue in FO3 and NV unless it was strong enough to kill you rapidly. Now I worry about every RAD I take because it's a HP loss I can't heal except with Rad Away. The minor RAD damage from Ghouls is actually a concern, and I never eat radiated food anymore.

RadAways seem hard to come by too unless you buy them for ten bajillion caps each. I have tons of HP heals though, and like 30 stimpacks somehow?

Tip: don't waste time in the blood store thing while tracking Valentine. It looks oh so tempting but I ended up wasting almost a full hour and all of my grenades just to leave.
 

Stringjam

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The minor RAD damage from Ghouls is actually a concern, and I never eat radiated food anymore.

The ghouls seem to have some pretty good AI nav pathing. I had a group chase me up 3 flights of stairs and across the rooftop.
 

Face2Face

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Is there a quick way I can see the front of my character? I'd like to see his gear head on.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Well I guess I'm not alone in thinking the load times are a little long. I noticed that myself but at least I'm not going crazy. Yet.

Does anyone know if there's a way to assign weapons to quickslots, like in the previous games? I think the mechanism before was to just hold down a number key and then click the weapon while the Pip-Boy was up. I can't believe they wouldn't include something like that.
 

Rhezuss

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I don't really understand all of the criticism for the game. It's not perfect, sure, but it feels like two big steps forward from Fallout 3, and only one minor step back in a few aspects from New Vegas (but it still comes out ahead).

- Weapon customization is GREAT. You can do quite a bit to each weapon you find, literally turning a junk pipe rifle that you loot off of the first raiders you encounter into a formidable early-game sniper rifle or battle rifle.
- Junk is actually worth collecting! All of those hot plates and other useless stuff from previous games have a real meaning now, not just a one-time random crafting patter fodder.
- Voice acting seems to be much better.
- Read terminals and notes you find. They really provide a lot of insight into peoples' lives and into why things are the way they are at a location.
- Quests have been interesting so far.

I give it a thumbs up.

Bold emphasis mine, so true, I don't get it either. Every damn game that get released receive the same pattern of criticism, same shit everytime.

Anyways, for those who are enjoying the game, I am and a lot, keep on playing and have a blast with it, it's worth every penny for me.
 

MetalMat

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Jun 14, 2004
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game is a huge let down :/

Yeah I kind of agree. So so many years in the making and so much hype and this is what we get.... its a disappointment. This again just goes to show me why the so called "game journalism" industry is complete BS, nearly every one of them gave this game such a high rating that it does not deserve. I certainly won't be bothering with any future FO4 DLC and won't be so quick to pull the trigger on future Fallout games. It's actually making me want to play New Vegas again
 

Mem

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game is a huge let down :/


Can you be more specific?...I'm still early in the game but think it's pretty good so far, I've played all the previous Fallout games so know more or less what to expect.


I think learning curve is a bit higher in this game especially the crafting aspect of F4.
 

zinfamous

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Is there a quick way I can see the front of my character? I'd like to see his gear head on.

you need to holster your weapon and yes, it took me a while to recall and figure out how to do this as it isn't in the in-game control information.

Hold down the "R" button, or whatever you have set to reload or draw. When holstered or unarmed, you can then pan around your character with the mouse camera.
 

zinfamous

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Well I guess I'm not alone in thinking the load times are a little long. I noticed that myself but at least I'm not going crazy. Yet.

Does anyone know if there's a way to assign weapons to quickslots, like in the previous games? I think the mechanism before was to just hold down a number key and then click the weapon while the Pip-Boy was up. I can't believe they wouldn't include something like that.

only way I know right now is to "favorite" them in the PiP boy inventory--just scroll over the weapons you want in your inventory list, hit "Q" to favorite (I think it's Q; the info is at the bottom of this menu) and the quick slot menu will appear.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Can you be more specific?...I'm still early in the game but think it's pretty good so far, I've played all the previous Fallout games so know more or less what to expect.


I think learning curve is a bit higher in this game especially the crafting aspect of F4.

I think the real disappointment is that it isn't improved/novel enough compared to FO3 and NV. The crafting is nice--but that is also something that was a common part of properly-modded FO games before. Technically, it really isn't all that new and as usual is another example of Bethesda depending on the work of fans, but it's still great to see it arrive in the vanilla release. I mean, the end result is what matters, right?

I personally think the game looks fine for what it is, but I also understand the need and desire for higher-res textures and visuals in a game released in 2015. Yes, I think it looks good, but this isn't "crippled" like DAI was last year, with PS3/360 requirements, and yet those managed to look a bit better. Granted, not the same type of open world.

In the end, I'm not disappointed because it's what one comes to expect and mostly what people want from a FO game. But, you should still some desire and effort from the Devs to move quality along and work on old and long-broken mechanics. Then again, I imagine that the same disappointed people would cry about "too much change! why fix what isn't broken!" on the other side....as would those that really just wanted more of the same. So, in the end, it's probably least problematic to just crank out the same game.

Hell, look at Madden and COD. Which is probably the core of the criticism--FO and TES players don't want this company to follow the EA model, even though it has been happening for some time.
 

Markbnj

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Otherwise, spent over an hour "razing" my town. Those damn picket fences are hard to scrap. Also, don't try to centralize your power generation... Learned that the hard way.

Is there a way to de-clutter? Like to remove junked cars or clean out dilapidated furniture from houses?
 
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