I was really, really disappointed in Jamaica Plains. All those usable buildings arbitrarily placed out of bounds is just silly. As for defense, I've pretty much abandoned walls and fences in favor of turrets in a layered defense.
I was really, really disappointed in Jamaica Plains. All those usable buildings arbitrarily placed out of bounds is just silly. As for defense, I've pretty much abandoned walls and fences in favor of turrets in a layered defense.True. I wasn't really thinking "cannot be defended using any means provided by the game," but rather coming at it from more of a role playing perspective. Sanctuary is defensible. Ten Pines isn't bad. Jamaica Plains was ok because the buildings give you part of an enclosure already, even though space is pretty tight there and there is an unusable building in one corner.
As for defense, I've pretty much abandoned walls and fences in favor of turrets in a layered defense.
Do walls actually make a difference? Hostiles seem to spawn in the middle of settlements. Not all of them, obviously, but some do.
I still treat them as serfs. I even wear my armored clean, blue, suit, now. That way they know I am the king; I am the only one that doesn't have **** all over them. And I am far too busy gallivanting about, clopping coconuts together, to bail them out when a raid happens.
Do walls actually make a difference?
lol Seems weird to me that I can get a warning, fast travel (which takes hours, as it should) and yet arrive before one single combatant dies. I also have a couple where evidently everyone has died, as it shows zero settlers - but 60% happiness. So I guess they died happy?I take the approach of using walls and having turrets to protect the gates. I have no idea though if NPCs can breach walls with explosives (i.e. whether walls can be damaged). I've enjoyed building the settlements and helping when I can, but defending them really hasn't been a big part of the game so far, and from a role-playing perspective I will probably continue to treat them as if they should be at least attempting some self-reliance. There's a fat man and mini-nukes in the hut, so use them and leave me alone .
I still treat them as serfs. I even wear my armored clean, blue, suit, now. That way they know I am the king; I am the only one that doesn't have **** all over them. And I am far too busy gallivanting about, clopping coconuts together, to bail them out when a raid happens.
How is the Brotherhood of Steel faction storyline? I skipped joining them on my first playthrough and was thinking of joining them for my second just for something new. The trouble is there's no real reason to join them from a role playing perspective and from what I've experienced interacting with them everyone comes off like jerks. Is their storyline at least good? I'd consider playing through if the storyline is interesting but worry that it's mediocre and I'll find it unenjoyable. I know you're not stuck with a faction and could leave but I don't want to waste time if it's not interesting.
Yeah, I do that. I'm in the habit of creating a lower, walled-in floor with the power generators, and the turrets on the floor above. The turrets sometimes get shot, but the generators are safe.Mostly I use walls to protect my power/water, seems they don't get blowed up inside a building with turrets covering them.
I'm in the starting stages with the BoS with my second playthrough, and they seem kind of evil. Not as evil as the Institute, but kinda evil. That's my impression from the "all synths must die" speech.From a RP perspective, BoS makes a ton of sense. Sure the Minutemen seem cool, but isn't that basically what everyone's been trying for 200 years and failing? Small settlements that constantly get over run by super mutants and raiders. BoS have the firepower needed to keep settlements safe.
None of them are exactly prizes.
Meh, thanks for the responses, guys. It was just County Crossing and Greentop Nursery, I think. Two of the more indefensible settlements. Hopefully someone as made or will make a mod to tone these missions down a little. They pop up too often imo. I know there's a mod to make the notices of defense missions more obvious, but I'm skeptical that I actually missed any.
Do walls actually make a difference? Hostiles seem to spawn in the middle of settlements. Not all of them, obviously, but some do.
Mostly I use walls to protect my power/water, seems they don't get blowed up inside a building with turrets covering them. I tinkered around with a completely walled in garden/beds/power/turret setup to see how it fared but hit about a 3 story cap, but that didn't let me put the beds far enough away from the noise (at least it seemed).
From a RP perspective, BoS makes a ton of sense. Sure the Minutemen seem cool, but isn't that basically what everyone's been trying for 200 years and failing? Small settlements that constantly get over run by super mutants and raiders. BoS have the firepower needed to keep settlements safe.
Who would you rather have defending towns, guys with leather hats and crank lasers or people in power armor with full auto lasers and vertibirds?
Sorry, I meant in the beginning it didn't make sense to join them since my character's goal is to find his son. Joining the BOS (or the Minute Men for that matter) wouldn't seem to help find his son.
Minutemen make sense for finding your son since it gives you an army of people to search for news.
The Railroad makes sense for the same reason, even more so since they are the ones dealing with Institute synths.
BoS makes little sense for help with finding your son since they are an authoritarian group that cares more about controlling access to tech than protecting people. You have to lie to them and pretend to be a loyal member, hoping to use them without them figuring it out. Once you know more about the institute then (if you decide it is evil) the BoS makes sense as the group most likely to be able to destroy it.
The "0 people" displays on the map after not visiting awhile are annoying. I thought 2 settlements had been wiped out but were fine when I showed up to check.
Turrets destroy crops? Crap, did not know that.Jamaica Plains is hilarious. I started thinking 3D and decided to build a 1-story tower on the top of the main building. It covers every side. Only problem is the bus that lets people get way too close. I put up a shorter, smaller turret tower on the open side to help out.
I've been putting turrets at the edges of my settlements. Things have spawned right on the edge of the buildable area and taken the perimeter turrets out.
Same. I was going to avoid walls but then attackers started running through my crop fields. The turrets just wiped out everything and I got tired of that. Walls now used to funnel bad guys around crops.
In particular, they're bad for tall crops. They tend to knock down things like corn pretty easily. Ground-huggers like carrots, gourds, and melons don't get hit.Turrets destroy crops? Crap, did not know that.