Family And GF Oppose Gun Purchase..

[glenn1]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
I would like to purchase a gun for protection and just taking it to the range.
However, my family and gf are against it. I really don't care my family is against it. I'm a grown man and live on my own. They can just deal with it. However, my gf is threatening to never come over again if I get it. Should I just man up and tell her to piss off. Or is it possible to reason with her?

How exactly did this come up in conversation with them? It seems a bit odd that you told them of your grand plan to purchase a firearm and your eagerness may have spooked them a bit. I'm imagining it went something like this, "Oh hi Mom, how's Dad and Grandmom and oh BTW I'm gonna go buy a Desert Eagle .50 cal this weekend."

Secondly, what are you planning to buy, and did you mention that your g/f and family? I would think it make a big difference if you were getting something like this or this, since she'd see it as a completely different thing than if you were to buy an AR-15 or something.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

This is not about the gun, this is about control. It has absolutely nothing to do with insecurity. Damn you sound like one stupid liberal pussy. He isn't the bad guy because he wants a gun. If a woman acts like that as a GF you don't want her as a wife. Call her on her crap and see how it plays out. Trust me, if she leaves you will be better off.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

A gun is not a "pointless toy", in the OPs case it sounds like he wants it for legitimate protection.

Her feeling of being unsafe, as far as the OP has said, is unfounded. It sounds like she is just ignorant to handguns and guns in general. If she is going to feel unsafe, then she should feel unsafe any time at his house... he has knives all over the place in the kitchen I assume.

Personally, if I had a GF that opposed my ownership of a gun of any sort, I wouldn't stay with her. If course, I have some background in this situation that most people don't. I will have a CCW on my person almost all the time as soon as I get my permit, and my penis size is average thank you very much.

 

[Mo0o]

At this point there's no way for you to win.

She will have dug in her heels enough that it's not longer about the logic/merits of owning a gun. It's more about whether you respect her wishes (regardless of the logic behind them). If you end up buying a gun, she'll see this as a sign that you value owning a gun more than your relationship with her. Sorry but those are the facts. People here can preach on all they want about the merits of gun ownership yadda yadda yadda, but thats not how your girlfriend will see it.

If you value your relationship w/ your girlfriend over gun ownership, then I would just drop the subject. Otherwise, I guess it's time to move on

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

A gun is not a "pointless toy", in the OPs case it sounds like he wants it for legitimate protection.

Her feeling of being unsafe, as far as the OP has said, is unfounded. It sounds like she is just ignorant to handguns and guns in general. If she is going to feel unsafe, then she should feel unsafe any time at his house... he has knives all over the place in the kitchen I assume.

Personally, if I had a GF that opposed my ownership of a gun of any sort, I wouldn't stay with her. If course, I have some background in this situation that most people don't. I will have a CCW on my person almost all the time as soon as I get my permit, and my penis size is average thank you very much.

Agreed 100%

 

[spidey07]

My girl was against it, until I was robbed when I slept. Now she is very happy and feels much more safe and knows how to operate them all.

Tell her that if somebody comes in and wants to have their way with her you can't do anything about it. If you are armed, you can.

 

[spaceman]

tell her to deal or feck off.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

This is not about the gun, this is about control. It has absolutely nothing to do with insecurity. Damn you sound like one stupid liberal pussy. He isn't the bad guy because he wants a gun. If a woman acts like that as a GF you don't want her as a wife. Call her on her crap and see how it plays out. Trust me, if she leaves you will be better off.

I agree with everything Ronstang said.

 

[lifeobry]

I would try to talk it out with her and try to find the reasons for why she is so against a gun. If she refuses and just goes along the tack of "I don't like them, that's reason enough" then I would dump her. You're in for a world of hurt in the future with a person that is not reasonable and communicative in any and all situations.

 

[KevinCU]

I agree with Ronstang and ZeroIQ 100%.

 

[theflyingpig]

Dump the girl. She is a complete idiot. This incident proves it.

 

[jinduy]

threaten to shoot her if she doesn't approve

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Should I just man up and tell her to piss off. Or is it possible to reason with her?

This has nothing to do with you manning up. Its about what is more important to you - your gf, or the gun. Just choose. You can't convince her otherwise, and we shouldn't have to convince you otherwise.

 

[rcxEric]

ya hear me up, ya buy da gun but dun tell bout it cuz sum peeps juz dun no wat good 4em. mabe hide it sum were were she dont check, like in toilet tank. u no might not seem honest but sum thing u juz gotta do, ma bros kid like don eat no meat ya here, but he need it ta grow up and be tuff so juz sprinkle sum bacon powder on hiz salad problem solved no talk every1 happy

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Should I just man up and tell her to piss off. Or is it possible to reason with her?

This has nothing to do with you manning up. Its about what is more important to you - your gf, or the gun. Just choose. You can't convince her otherwise, and we shouldn't have to convince you otherwise.

I disagree, you can convince otherwise.

Mine was very much against it until she started thinking it through. Then again she's pretty smart and level headed. If OP's girl is irrational then yeah he won't get anywhere. She's a pretty decent shot as well!

 

[Triumph]

I really don't see the issue here. Once you buy the gun, she'll be a lot easier to "convince" on many subjects (hint hint).

Originally posted by: Mo0o
At this point there's no way for you to win.

She will have dug in her heels enough that it's not longer about the logic/merits of owning a gun. It's more about whether you respect her wishes (regardless of the logic behind them). If you end up buying a gun, she'll see this as a sign that you value owning a gun more than your relationship with her. Sorry but those are the facts. People here can preach on all they want about the merits of gun ownership yadda yadda yadda, but thats not how your girlfriend will see it.

If you value your relationship w/ your girlfriend over gun ownership, then I would just drop the subject. Otherwise, I guess it's time to move on

Unfortunately this is probably the most correctest answer. Women are usually not logical and rational, and it sounds like you won't win her over that way. She could be a gun toting Republican and she would still turn it into a "he picks the gun over me!" Depending on how stubborn she is, this could be an issue that would be brought up for years to come. "This is just like that time you wanted to buy that gun!"

 

[Triumph]

As for your family, fuck 'em. Guess what, if you buy a gun, your mom is still your mom, your sister is still your sister, etc. You don't have that option with your G/F.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: rcxEric
ya hear me up, ya buy da gun but dun tell bout it cuz sum peeps juz dun no wat good 4em. mabe hide it sum were were she dont check, like in toilet tank. u no might not seem honest but sum thing u juz gotta do, ma bros kid like don eat no meat ya here, but he need it ta grow up and be tuff so juz sprinkle sum bacon powder on hiz salad problem solved no talk every1 happy

wat

 

[Kadarin]

Another vote for what Ronstang said.

 

[frostedflakes]

Just out of curiosity, why is she opposed to you getting a gun? Can your GF make a good argument against it, or does it just boil down to "OMG GUNS ARE BAD!"? If the latter, you might show her some research to back up the merits of gun ownership for home defense. Of course some people are so closed-minded and set in their beliefs that you won't be able to change their mind.

At the same time, it seems kind of petty to break up with a girl you really like over something as minor as this. Is there any way you guys can compromise? For example, purchase a security system for home defense and just rent a gun when you want to go to the shooting range?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Triforceofcourage
Should I just man up and tell her to piss off. Or is it possible to reason with her?

This has nothing to do with you manning up. Its about what is more important to you - your gf, or the gun. Just choose. You can't convince her otherwise, and we shouldn't have to convince you otherwise.

Same argument as the porn as well that didn't fall through.

 

[tfinch2]

My fiancee was the same way when I purchased my first firearm. I basically told her to deal with it. Now she regularly goes to the range with me.

 

[roid450]

Originally posted by: edro
Lock it up in a case.
Tell her to STFU and that guns cannot hurt anyone locked up in a case.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Ronstang
At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: rcxEric
ya hear me up, ya buy da gun but dun tell bout it cuz sum peeps juz dun no wat good 4em. mabe hide it sum were were she dont check, like in toilet tank. u no might not seem honest but sum thing u juz gotta do, ma bros kid like don eat no meat ya here, but he need it ta grow up and be tuff so juz sprinkle sum bacon powder on hiz salad problem solved no talk every1 happy

lmao

 

[senseamp]

Just buy it. Easier to get forgiveness after than permission before.