Family And GF Oppose Gun Purchase..

[JulesMaximus]

It is your god given right as an American to own as many guns as you want and whatever caliber you want. Be a man and tell those bitches to shut the fuck up. You should do this while wearing a wife beater and while watching NASCAR and drinking a Bud.

If they give you any shit, smack them around a bit and then peel out in your manly Chevy 4x4 Dually Crew Extra McSpecial Cab Pick-em-up Truck.

 

[actuarial]

I don't see why people are so up in arms about the girlfriend. Girls, as well as guys, make stands all the time in a relationship when they feel strongly about something. You have to decide whether it's more important to own a gun, or have your g/f feeling safe.

Maybe feeling unsafe with a gun in the house doesn't make sense, but that doesn't change the fact that she doesn't feel safe. Are you saying everything that you feel/do makes perfect logical sense?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

This is not about the gun, this is about control. It has absolutely nothing to do with insecurity. Damn you sound like one stupid liberal pussy. He isn't the bad guy because he wants a gun. If a woman acts like that as a GF you don't want her as a wife. Call her on her crap and see how it plays out. Trust me, if she leaves you will be better off.

Yeah, nobody should ever marry a liberal. Might as well marry a commie or your damned dog...:|

 

[mozirry]

I will speak from experience here. I am an avid shooter/hunter, and since living w/ my wife I wanted to start collecting firearms again since my dad took them all from me after my parents got divorced (guns were family heirlooms from my real father) Wife though had a real hard time dealing with this when I talked to her about it when we went on a nightly walk for exercise, and we got into a heated debate, and it didn't end very well.

Wife's point : A. We don't need one
B. Why spend $xxx.xx on a gun when we don't even spend $xxx.xx on something that we could actually use daily
C. I just don't like them.


My point: A. This would be a possession I would value highly, and I don't have very many things I want/like to collect
B. This could be used to defend our homes, go hunting with, spend bonding time with her father (who is a AVID collector/firearm user)
C. It's only fair if I let her collect/buy expensive things, etc.


So after a while, I went from a Zero gun household to now a 3 gun, I have a Mosin-Nagant (Cheap); S&W K22 revolver (dad gave it back); S&W Sigma .40 cal (for home defense).

Basically, I research my purchase, explain to her what I want to get and make sure I can get her on board that it is a good deal/reasonable purchase, that we can afford it. Then she basically gets to do something nice for herself (like go on vacation w/ her girlfriend, get an IPOD or something) and we are all happy.


This is a very delicate situation, I'm afraid if you just say it's my way or the highway then she will dog you forever about it and it will suck ass, so you got to meet both ways somewhere or sacrifice something (me, I have to spend equal $ on her). Luckily her dad is on my side and she respects her dad like Jesus so it helps me out.

In your situation, you aren't married to the girl so maybe this is a sign you can back out now. If you want a gun, buy one, but just explain clearly why you think its a good idea.



&EDIT& forgot to say, I HAD To purchase a safe in order to store these firearms securely yet also provide reasonable access in the event of a breaking and entry. I am totally fine with this as it is the logical thing to do regardless of whether or not you are by yourself or with children.

Explain to her and show her how nice safes are, and that she can also store her valuables in there as well.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: actuarial
I don't see why people are so up in arms about the girlfriend. Girls, as well as guys, make stands all the time in a relationship when they feel strongly about something. You have to decide whether it's more important to own a gun, or have your g/f feeling safe.

Maybe feeling unsafe with a gun in the house doesn't make sense, but that doesn't change the fact that she doesn't feel safe. Are you saying everything that you feel/do makes perfect logical sense?

STFU you liberal commie bastard or we'll shoot you. :|

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl was against it, until I was robbed when I slept. Now she is very happy and feels much more safe and knows how to operate them all.

Tell her that if somebody comes in and wants to have their way with her you can't do anything about it. If you are armed, you can.

Solution: OP should hire his friend to "rob" them in their sleep

Now you're thinking outside the box.

BRILLIANT!

 

[everman]

Get the gun, you can't let her and your family make decisions for you. If she leaves you over this then you know what kind of woman she really is, she wants too much control.

But you can soften them up a bit. Enroll in a firearms training course, show that you're serious about learning how to use it properly, that it's not just a toy.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: spidey07
My girl was against it, until I was robbed when I slept. Now she is very happy and feels much more safe and knows how to operate them all.

Tell her that if somebody comes in and wants to have their way with her you can't do anything about it. If you are armed, you can.

Solution: OP should hire his friend to "rob" them in their sleep

Now you're thinking outside the box.

BRILLIANT!

I also support this idea.

 

[wiredspider]

I'd buy the gun and not tell her, I mean it's not like you plan on whipping it out all the time right? Hehe...

 

[Finalnight]

I would get it unless you have done something in the past or have some mental condition that is causing her fear. I doubt that since you bothered to ask us here.

Otherwise, if you plan on keeping this relationship, this will be just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: Finalnight
Otherwise, if you plan on keeping this relationship, this will be just the tip of the iceberg.

I don't think it's as bad as all you people are saying, honestly. It depends a lot on details the OP didn't mention-- how long they've been dating, if this is the first type of instance of an ultimatum... I mean, there are certain things in every person's life that are completely off-limits (e.g. a bf wanting his gf who was previously raped to role-play a rape fantasy). Maybe the gf witnessed a family member get shot by playing with a loaded gun in a house? Maybe the gf was in a physically abusive relationship where a gun was pulled on her out of anger? No matter what logic you bring up, those are scarring situations and I wouldn't blame the girl.

Now if this was one of many instances of her delivering such ultimatums, then yeah OP might want to look elsewhere. To be honest though, if this was the first instance, I'd probably be more inclined to put my wants aside to save a headache with the person I love. A gun is a big deal-- no matter how you justify it, it is made for one purpose: to kill. The only reason to own one is that you want to be prepared to one day use it to end the life of someone or something. Women, who tend to be more emotional people, may find greater difficulty wrapping their head around this and wanting to be in that situation.

 

[sandorski]

meh, you don't need a Gun.

 

[everman]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Hardly. Have you ever gone to the range just to shoot some targets? It's actually a lot of fun. It's one of those things that looks a lot easier than it really is. I suggest that you do if you haven't, because guns are not inherently dangerous weapons of death. The best definition is that they are tools, but you can have good safe fun with them too in a responsible manner. There's no reason to be afraid of them. I've introduced gun-fearing individuals to firearms and so far all of them love it, and are no longer afraid of them.

 

[Amused]

There are 150 million females out there and not a single one is worth your self respect.

In other words, to give you the best advice my father gave me: NEVER take an ultimatum from a woman.

Trust me on this. Unless you want to be one of those whipped guys who never get their way and have to beg for everything in a relationship.

 

[olds]

Personally, I wouldn't worry about the gun issue so much my as I would about my girlfriend's lack of maturity and the fact that she thinks she can blackmail me/tell me what to do.
You have bigger issues than a gun.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

L&R
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[ja1484]

Originally posted by: between

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

thankyou for injecting some smarts into this thread.
it's also worth pointing out the girlfriend is probably thinking long-term - she is no doubt well aware that children are more likely to die when there are guns in the house - she is probably wondering if it's a smart idea to start a family with a gun nut who is going to place her own children in grave danger.

I never want to hear another woman in the US bitching about chivalry being dead. This is why. You killed it.

You want men to be men when dating because it's attractive, and then you want them to settle into nice little suburban-daddy roles once the kids start popping out.

Fuck every woman that thinks this way and fuck every guy that has let himself be emasculated by one. Grow a fucking pair and learn you don't need a (permanent) woman in this world. If they're worth a relationship, fine, but make sure you aren't the only person sacrificing. Where's her investment?

 

[ja1484]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yeah, nobody should ever marry a liberal. Might as well marry a commie or your damned dog...:|

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[meltdown75]

shens

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Amused
There are 150 million females out there and not a single one is worth your self respect.

In other words, to give you the best advice my father gave me: NEVER take an ultimatum from a woman.

Trust me on this. Unless you want to be one of those whipped guys who never get their way and have to beg for everything in a relationship.

that's the dumbest fuckin thing i ever read on this forum.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: Amused
There are 150 million females out there and not a single one is worth your self respect.

In other words, to give you the best advice my father gave me: NEVER take an ultimatum from a woman.

Trust me on this. Unless you want to be one of those whipped guys who never get their way and have to beg for everything in a relationship.

that's the dumbest fuckin thing i ever read on this forum.

might explain the divorce rate a bit.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ja1484

Originally posted by: between

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: dahunan
give us some background on the value of this relationship to you and how long you been together etc

If they are just trying to turn you into a super liberal then tell them eff off

Tell them it is either your life or that of the person assaulting you?

At this moment he should know there is NO value to it if she is going to issue ultimatums to control his actions. He needs to buy the gun and if she doesn't want to come over anymore he needs to go find someone else. If he caves to this kind of BS when she is only a GF he will be a complete loser the rest of his life if he ever marries her.

OR you could NOT be a dick, skip the pointless toy, and not make the person you love afraid.

Seriously, you must be pretty insecure to say something like that in this situation. This isn't like she's issuing ultimatums because he wants to eat pizza tonight. He wants to do something that will make her feel unsafe every time she sees him. She has every right to put her foot down about it.

If the op absolutely has to compensate for his penis anxiety, he has every right to leave his gf, but that's HIS necrotic problem, not her's. She's not the bad guy in this situation.

As for reasoning with her, it makes a lot more sense to be worried about an actual inexperienced and self-admitted paranoid guy with a gun in the house than it does to be worried about the possibility of a guy with a gun in the house. Who's being unreasonable again?

thankyou for injecting some smarts into this thread.
it's also worth pointing out the girlfriend is probably thinking long-term - she is no doubt well aware that children are more likely to die when there are guns in the house - she is probably wondering if it's a smart idea to start a family with a gun nut who is going to place her own children in grave danger.

I never want to hear another woman in the US bitching about chivalry being dead. This is why. You killed it.

You want men to be men when dating because it's attractive, and then you want them to settle into nice little suburban-daddy roles once the kids start popping out.

Fuck every woman that thinks this way and fuck every guy that has let himself be emasculated by one. Grow a fucking pair and learn you don't need a (permanent) woman in this world. If they're worth a relationship, fine, but make sure you aren't the only person sacrificing. Where's her investment?

Owning a Gun does not make you or anyone else a Man. If you think it does, you are not a Man.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: sandorski
...

Owning a Gun does not make you or anyone else a Man. If you think it does, you are not a Man.

How about Daniel Boone?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: sandorski
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Owning a Gun does not make you or anyone else a Man. If you think it does, you are not a Man.

How about Daniel Boone?

It's all in the attitutde. Having a Gun does not mean you are not a Man. A Man is just a Man, he doesn't need external Gadgets to make him one.

 

[KevinCU]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Owning a Gun does not make you or anyone else a Man. If you think it does, you are not a Man.

Do you think that not owning a gun makes you "more" of a man?