Famous Atheist Now Believes in God

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TuxDave

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Oct 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: kranky
Wow, it's rare to see such an avalanche of insightful replies in an ATOT thread. :roll:

What kind of responses were you expecting?

Oh, I don't know, maybe how rare it is for someone well known in a field to do a 180 on the positions that he held and lectured on for decades, how difficult it would be for anyone in that position to publicly declare their new theory.. you know, stuff like that.

Welcome to science. I agree, it must've been difficult to provide a different theory than what he was so familiar with. However, if you want to be a good scientist, you need to set aside your pride and make judgements on the data alone. Apparantly he saw good reason to revise his theory and I commend him for following the scientific tradition.

Finally, he's not the only one to take a second look at his theories.

http://www.space.com/news/hawking_bet_040716.html
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Famous atheist? I've never heard of the guy.
Besides, at 81, senility is probably starting to set in

Brief Biography of Antony Flew
Personal Particulars
Date of Birth: February 11, 1923
Nationality: British, by birth
Family: Married since June 28, 1952. Two daughters: One born July 11, 1961; the other born March 8, 1964.
[snip]

So what? I've still never heard of him.
 

KevinH

Diamond Member
Nov 19, 2000
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: KirbsAw
Originally posted by: SofaKing
Originally posted by: Mo0o
overbearing christians like you make me glad to be agnostic

Did rip even read the whole article or just stop at the title and the part he bolded?

"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."

Still, it's important to note that such a strong atheist for 50 years could be swayed to chnge his opinion on the existance of a god.

Yes...the operative words here are a god...not God as the dipsh1t op still left in his title.
 
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And once again, it is still important to note that such a strong atheist for 50 years could be swayed to chnge his opinion on the existance of a god
 

Cobalt

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Apr 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Mo0o
OMG THANKS FOR THE INFO IM GOING TO BE CHRISTIAN NOW

PS. overbearing christians like you make me glad to be agnostic

Just a question...what in his post was "overbearing"? He just reposted a news article that, as a Christian, he found interesting. People here do it all the time regarding other topics, yet we don't call everyone else overbearing.... or trolls.... or trash...

Check his P&N threads.
 

Yzzim

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Feb 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: werk
troll troll troll your boat!

how exactly is that trolling? Posting a news article isn't trolling.

When John McCain switched from being Republican to Independant it was all over the news, it was one man expressing his views and changing a party that better fits his beliefs.
 

loup garou

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Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: werk
troll troll troll your boat!

how exactly is that trolling? Posting a news article isn't trolling.

When John McCain switched from being Republican to Independant it was all over the news, it was one man expressing his views and changing a party that better fits his beliefs.
Do a search on his username. Guess he's not getting enough attention in P&N so he has to bring it over to OT every now and then.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
He's worried about the afterlife. He's covering his bases.

Another person who didn't read the article :roll:

I think he's worried that our existance is entirely meaningless and therefore now believes that some sort of god exists which gives our lives some sort of meaning... or something.
 

Yzzim

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Feb 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
He's worried about the afterlife. He's covering his bases.

Another person who didn't read the article :roll:

I think he's worried that our existance is entirely meaningless and therefore now believes that some sort of god exists which gives our lives some sort of meaning... or something.

or something....so basically you don't know
 

Riprorin

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Apr 25, 2000
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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
He's worried about the afterlife. He's covering his bases.

Another person who didn't read the article :roll:

I think he's worried that our existance is entirely meaningless and therefore now believes that some sort of god exists which gives our lives some sort of meaning... or something.

How do you ge that from this:

Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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"Scientific evidence of God" is an oxymoron.
Originally posted by: Riprorin
At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.
Just simply shows that he is uneducated in the biology sciences.


 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Hey Rip, since you're posting this article, I'm assuming you respect his new revelation. But if he doesn't believe in the Christian God, why do you still praise him? Isn't 'no God' just as bad as 'other Gods'?
 
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
He's worried about the afterlife. He's covering his bases.

Another person who didn't read the article :roll:

I think he's worried that our existance is entirely meaningless and therefore now believes that some sort of god exists which gives our lives some sort of meaning... or something.

How do you ge that from this:

Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature

And it still is just 1 man's opinion. What exactly do you think all this proves?
 

loup garou

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Feb 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Calling someone a troll usually just means you can't think of an intelligent response.
An intelligent response to what? Yet another Riprorin cut and paste job?
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: AmigaMan
Originally posted by: Mo0o
OMG THANKS FOR THE INFO IM GOING TO BE CHRISTIAN NOW

PS. overbearing christians like you make me glad to be agnostic

Just a question...what in his post was "overbearing"? He just reposted a news article that, as a Christian, he found interesting. People here do it all the time regarding other topics, yet we don't call everyone else overbearing.... or trolls.... or trash...

Check his P&N threads.

werd
 

StageLeft

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Sep 29, 2000
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Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature,
There is something to be said for that. I've yet to hear of a scientific explanation for the beginning of time/universe. People say "big bang", but where did that mass come from? What caused it to bang? No matter how far you go back science is inherently unable, due to its cause and effect nature, to explain how the universe could have begun.
 
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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Yzzim
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
He's worried about the afterlife. He's covering his bases.

Another person who didn't read the article :roll:

I think he's worried that our existance is entirely meaningless and therefore now believes that some sort of god exists which gives our lives some sort of meaning... or something.

How do you ge that from this:

Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature

And it still is just 1 man's opinion. What exactly do you think all this proves?

Nothing. Just shows that maybe there may be enough evidence to show us that a god exists.
 
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature,
There is something to be said for that. I've yet to hear of a scientific explanation for the beginning of time/universe. People say "big bang", but where did that mass come from? What caused it to bang? No matter how far you go back science is inherently unable, due to its cause and effect nature, to explain how the universe could have begun.

unless the big bang was God :shocked:
 

Mo0o

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Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature,
There is something to be said for that. I've yet to hear of a scientific explanation for the beginning of time/universe. People say "big bang", but where did that mass come from? What caused it to bang? No matter how far you go back science is inherently unable, due to its cause and effect nature, to explain how the universe could have begun.

unless the big bang was God :shocked:

thats one hell of a fart
 

Eavan

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Jul 20, 2004
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Oh, so much friendliness here tonight. It warms my heart :evil:

Seriously. I don't think he was trying to convert any of you, so why don't we put down the battle axes, eh? If you think it's so stupid and worthless and if he is such a troll then why oh why did you give him the satisfaction of commenting on it?

By the way, I have no opinion whatsoever on the article. I could care less about this scientist and his beliefs, but I've really never seen such hostile reactions as when somebody mentions religion on ATOT. Unfortunately a good portion of the world believes in some higher power, and they probably don't care that you think they're morons--I doubt you'll convince them otherwise by comments such as these.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to get back to procrastinating on some much needed studying for finals.
 
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