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Originally posted by: cordite
Originally posted by: nocturne
Since a bread maker is about as sensible as a rice cooker (ie, waste of counter/cupboard space), would this recipe work without too much major modification in a normal oven

You've definitely never used a real rice cooker then. It definitely doesn't fit everyone's needs but outright proclaiming that one is a waste of counter space is truly ignorant. Anyway, that said, I'll have to give this recipe a try with my Kitchenaid Pro 5+.

being Asian, nocturne's comments are laughable

see, i'm laughing ----> :laugh:
 

RideFree

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In this household, we can no longer even cook rice without our 14 year-old rice cooker.

The thing I like best about rice (over, say potatoes) is that the cooking water is absorbed (hence retaining all of the nutrients) rather than being discarded as in mashed or boiled potatoes.
(Unless you use the potato water in making gravy. MMMM!)
BTW, using that potato water in this bread recipe makes for a fabulous loaf...
...if you use salt in cooking the potatoes, then be sure to eliminate the salt called for in the bread recipe.
 

Monotaur

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My wife and I were talking the other day about making more conscience efforts to eat healthier, and then the discussion of bread came up. We found that 99% of all bread sold at our local supermarkets contain quite a bit of high fructose corn syrup, something that we don't like. So this is a very welcome "deal" (and hey, at $0.11 a loaf, it is a deal!).

So, we finally got around to making the bread. It taste great! The only think I'd change next time is waiting to take it out of the bread machine - hopefully that'll help the crust be a bit softer.

Thanks OP!
 

skumaratech

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For those of you without a bread machine, here's how to do it. For whatever reason, it comes out better than a bread machine.
One day (3 years ago) my bread machine broke down, and I started to do it by hand. I have no interest in going back to the machine.
It's obviously a bit more work, but the satisfaction you get is worth it.

The original recipe is good. My modifications: I use 4 cups of white flour from Sam's club (I have yet to find a cheap source of wheat flour) and white sugar. I live in Colorado Springs, around 6300 feet.

You need to use flitered water so that you get rid of the Chlorine. So if you know that your water has chlorine (and not chloramine), you can
let the water sit for 4-5 hours and the chlorine will go away (instead of using filtered water). Use warm water (nuke it for 10-15 seconds)

These are the steps. It's based on Jamie Oliver's recipe.

1. Mix it all up into a a nice dough ball, make 2 cuts with a knife on the top and let it rise in the oven for 50 minutes (Warm up the oven to 80-90 F, makes the bread rise nicely)
2. Take it out, beat it again (to get the air out), give it a dusting of flour and put in in the bread pan, make 2 knife cuts on the top and let is rise in the oven for 50 more minutes
3. Take the bread-pan out, pre-heat oven to 375 F
4. Put the bread pan in and close the oven door very slowly (so that the air in the dough does not collapse)
5. Let it bake for 25-30 minutes.
6. Take the bread out of the pan and let is cool for 10 minutes. You are done.

One of the things I do with fresh bread; Dip it in extra virgin olive oil, put some italian herbs etc, pepper and salt. It's awesome.

MY question for you guys. Where can I buy cheap wheat flour ?
 

RideFree

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MY question for you guys. Where can I buy cheap wheat flour ?
Often, at the upcoming holiday season, Albertson's has the 5 lbs. package on sale for $1.00

Other stores may do this also. Keep checking the Wednesday morning paper or the ad mailers that come on Tuesday. Then, buy 2 - 3 - 4 bags (10 to 20 lbs.) as you anticipate your needs.
 

RideFree

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Alright!
It's less than two months 'till the 2006 holiday season and you'd better think of your family's health and financial resources!
I've seen the Breadmann Ultimate go for as little as $50 - $60 on FleaBay so there is little excuse for your family not to be healthier starting with Thanksgiving or Christmas. (Of course, today it is $150.)
(Note, this year, Chanukkah/Hanukkah comes on 25 Kislev and lasts 'till 2 Tevet, 5767.
Hannukah? Chanukah? Khanukkah? Oy Vey!
How do you really spell this holiday? ???? or ?????
)

The new 2½ lb. recipe is now included in the OP.
 

MiataPaul

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Originally posted by: RideFree
MY question for you guys. Where can I buy cheap wheat flour ?
Often, at the upcoming holiday season, Albertson's has the 5 lbs. package on sale for $1.00

Other stores may do this also. Keep checking the Wednesday morning paper or the ad mailers that come on Tuesday. Then, buy 2 - 3 - 4 bags (10 to 20 lbs.) as you anticipate your needs.

Flour is not something you really want to buy on the cheap. I use only stone ground and preferably organic, not so much because of chemicals, but because they normally treat the product better. Although knowing there are little to no pesticides is a good thing. If you find a brand you like on sale it is ok, but I prefer to have constant results. I will try this out tonight. I really have not found a good whole wheat recipe. I like a good dense whole wheat, but have not been happy with the results from the bread maker. I don't normally have time to make bread from scratch so the breadmaker is a good substitute. I am looking at moving onto a sail boat and trying to figure out the kitchen gadgets I can't live without. I am going to dump the food processor and rice cooker, but not the Kitchen Aid or Bread Maker, though the bread maker may have to be stored off the ship, but then there is not much reason to keep it.
 

M2008S

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forgive me for not looking thru every page... buy can i make the regular size loaf and put it in a bread pan in a conventional oven? any ideas on cook time/ what to look for? ive never baked bread but all the + feedback makes it look awesome. PM me if you can thx
 

dmwtech

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I saw this post last night while I was looking through the Hot Deals section. It was about 8:15pm and I don't know why, but the thought of making bread sounded good. Next thing I know I'm at the grocery store buying top quality ingredients to make this bread. My Mom had given me some old Welbilt bread maker that has next to no options. I pulled it out of the garage and washed everything off. It options are "Auto, Med, Dark, Light" and that's about it. I'd have to say it was made in the early 90's at best. I didn't have high hopes that the bread would come out right as this was my very first loaf of bread I've ever made. I watched that thing from 8:45pm until almost 11:30pm when it was done. The bread really rose and sort of mushroomed over the top of the container. Since it did that, the top didn't cook as good as it should have, so I just discarded that portion and focused on the bread that remained in the smaller round baking cylinder.

GREAT BREAD! Thanks RideFree. I woke up this morning, removed it from the bread machine, sliced it up and made some toast with real butter. Very tasty. Thanks my friend for the great DEAL!
 

1EZduzit

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So does anybody know of some hot deals on a good bread making machine??
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Or just reccomend a good bread making machine??
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: M2008S
forgive me for not looking thru every page... buy can i make the regular size loaf and put it in a bread pan in a conventional oven? any ideas on cook time/ what to look for? ive never baked bread but all the + feedback makes it look awesome. PM me if you can thx

Better look for a regular recipe if you just want to bake it in a regular oven. You have to let ithe dough rise, and then beat it down, knead it, and let it rise again before you bake it. I don't know for sure, but I guessing that method would take more yeast.

My Grandma always told me the secret of good homemade bread was in the kneading. It's a lot of work, but it's even better then bread made in a bread machine, IMHO.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Originally posted by: M2008S
forgive me for not looking thru every page... buy can i make the regular size loaf and put it in a bread pan in a conventional oven? any ideas on cook time/ what to look for? ive never baked bread but all the + feedback makes it look awesome. PM me if you can thx
I'm PMing this, too.

Generally bake at 350 degrees, possibly 375. Check your oven's temperature with an oven thermometer. Get a decent one. I have two, and I think the newer one is off, to be frank. Anyway, bake most loaves of bread around 45 minutes. Take a peak a few minutes before to see if it's browning but not too brown. My particular oven tends to bake the back of the loaf darker than the front, so I open the oven at 30 minutes and rotate it 180 degrees. It's only for bread that I do this, nothing else. Then I bake 15 minutes more. If your bread's coming out too light or not totally cooked in the center, increase temperature or bake time. You want it brown but not burned and after it has cooled completely (give it a good 3 hours!) on a rack, slice with a very sharp knife. I'm really really good at slicing bread evenly. It takes practice, and of course you have to be careful not to cut yourself. I have a technique in which I shove the loaf against a vertical surface (by the end), and this stabalizes the loaf while I'm cutting each slice. It keeps my hands safely away from the knife, too.

Following is my WW bread recipe from my table of recipes. I've made hundreds of loaves of bread, and mostly WW. I have never used a bread baking machine in my life! I have nothing against them, just don't know the first thing about them. If someone gave me one or if I see one cheap used and it looks OK I'll check it out.

OK, here's my whole wheat bread recipe. I've made this one for years and several loaves just the last few weeks (T means tablespoon):

12 oz. water, heated to warm in order to dissolve yeast
1 T active dry yeast (put this in the warm water, let dissolve 5 minutes or so)

Add the following:

1 T salt
3 T sugar
1/2 cup nonfat dry milk (if you prefer, just use milk instead of water and skip this)
1/3 cup untoasted wheat germ (Optional. I store this in the refrigerator for freshness).
1/3 cup wheat bran (Optional)
1/2 cup millet
1/2 cup sasame seeds
1.5 cups whole wheat flour
1 raw egg
White flour (I get 50 lb. bags of bread flour at Costco!)

Mix these together in a mixing bowl, well and add white flour with a mixing spoon until thick enough to turn out on a floured kneeding board (a large cutting board will work). Scrape out most of what's left in the bowl onto the kneeding board. Kneed in more flour until the loaf is "smooth and elastic" and does not stick to the board. Continue to kneed for up to 5 minutes - this activates the gluten in the flour.

Put a 1/2 teaspoon or so of oil into the mixing bowl (You don't have to clean the bowl), and spread all around the bottom and up the sides, and toss the loaf into the bowl and swish it around to get oil all over it. Cover (plate or plastic) and put in a warm place (85 degrees or so) and let the loaf rise until around double in size. If it doesn't feel warm to the touch before doing this, heat it up in the microwave for a few seconds (maybe 30).

Pull out of bowl onto the kneeding board and kneed a few seconds and form into a loaf shape and press down into a lightly oiled loaf pan. Cover, if desired, and place back in the warm place (85 degrees or so), and let rise until around doubled in size (can take anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour) and put in preheated 350 degree oven for 40-45 minutes. Remove from oven, let sit 5 minutes and remove from pan and let cool thoroughly (a couple of hours) on a wire rack before slicing with a very sharp knife. Refrigerate in a plastic bag and it will keep for weeks (if you can resist eating it all first!).

I also make this recipe with 1/3 cup pumpkin seeds instead of the millet and sesame seeds. Or, for plain WW bread you can skip the seeds, of course.
 

1EZduzit

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You KNOW that you can't resist eating warm, homemade bread!!! Especially with real butter on it, ummmm! They now say that real butter is better for you then margarine.

Muse, what is this with millet?? I've never heard of that, is it ground or whole seeds? Red or white millet??
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
You KNOW that you can't resist eating warm, homemade bread!!! Especially with real butter on it, ummmm! They now say that real butter is better for you then margarine.

Muse, what is this with millet?? I've never heard of that, is it ground or whole seeds? Red or white millet??

I got the idea when I went with my girlfriend to a well known and popular bakery in Mendocino. We bought a loaf of sesame-millet whole wheat bread. So, in an attempt to emulate that I started making some of my loaves of WW bread with some of those seeds, as described in the recipe I just posted. I like the crunchiness of the millet. I put in in whole, just like the sesame seeds. White or red? I just buy what I see, which is white and store it in a jar. The last few loaves I've made, though, have instead of the sesame and millet a third cup of pumpkin seeds. I love it like that. There's endless things you can do with bread.

Once you make bread, pizza is a snap, and of course, there's endless variations on pizza. I use a rolling pin, but even that's not necessary if you want a thick crust. Calzone anyone? Easy. Rolls? A snap. I've even gotten into bagel making. That's a bit more of a challenge, but definitely doable in a standard kitchen.
 

Muse

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I got inspired by this thread and am about to pull a loaf from the oven. Been living without bread for almost 2 weeks.

Here's a few tips from an experienced bread maker (me):

You can use less yeast if you let the dough rise a time or two before forming the loaf. Of course, you let it rise in the pan (or on a sheet) before putting in the pre-heated oven. Besides saving yeast, the additional "proofing" time imparts superior flavor to the bread.

When you remove the pan from the oven, let it cool a couple minutes and then (if necessary) run a dull blade around the perimeter of the loaf to dislodge it from the pan and tip the loaf onto a wire rack. Leave the loaf on its side to cool. Cool until the center is room temperature before slicing. This can take up to 3 hours, typically. After slicing, place in a clear plastic bag. Do this by putting the sliced loaf carefully on one end and sliding the bag over the top. Store in the refrigerator. It should keep for weeks (that is, if you don't eat it first)!
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: RideFree

The new 2½ lb. recipe is now included in the OP.

it's a 1/2 pound more. you added a little bit more water and 1/2 cup more wheat flour.

How did this little change bring the loaf to a whole new ultimate level???
 
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