O! I can see this in my head! The heatsink fins running parallel to the long side of the card, NO RESISTANCE!!!!! That...makes so much SENSE!!!
Now, I don't get why they all aren't that way.
K wait....would they protrude too high and be unwieldy and not secure in the slot?? Get in the way of other, installed PCI cards? Or just way more expensive to make so not enuff profit? Also, maybe even harder to box and ship.
We've been cheap, and getting the minitower ones . I'm not sure if an MK-26 would fit in a current Optiplex or not. It would be close, if it doesn't, but I would carefully measure, before I tried. There are similar coolers that are smaller, though, so even if not, you'd have options. Deepcool's Dracula is fairly short, FI, and it performs very well.
I had an Accelero S1 on my old HD3870. It used blocked the PCIE slot under the GPU, and if I put a fan on, block the PCI slot under that. It was completely silent without the fan, and not audible with it.
Of course, any GPU fan sold today is going to be quieter than my ridiculous 2800rpm 80mm intake fans. I really should dump those.
I previously had 2x Radeon 7790s in crossfire with Arctic Cooling Accelero S1+ passive coolers. I had 2x140mm intake @ 700 rpm, 1x140mm exhaust @ 700 rpm in a Nanoxia DS1 case (stock configuration).
It was a near silent system, but bulky and hardly worth the expense. Might be a reasonable choice if you NEED near silence, though.
Well Hell, in that case, anything around a GT 620, or Radeon 6450 will be more than enough. And, for such a GPU, fully passive cooling is no problem at all. The trouble w/ gaming/pro video cards is that GPUs haven't been getting lower power when under load, but simply really good at scaling to their load, so a given GPU might use 10W idle, but 150W under load--that's about double what a typical stock CPU is going to use under full load. Without those performance needs, stock passive cards will work fine, should be easy to find, and won't be something you'll need when you upgrade.Since I am not a gamer, do no graphics work, would never even want to own Photoshop, etc.......I could happily do with integrated graphics, this board is just fine with that. But again, this Lynnfield chip requires discreet.
Yes, depending on the environment, but stock coolers for gaming-class cards are typically much worse, having (a) higher fin density, and (b) many times the volume of air forced through them over time. Just the same, a big heatsink with wide fin spacing, that can cool the CPU with minimal CFM, will also not get clogged up with dust very quickly. I do wish they'd have proper dust filters, though. They are very nice to have, but AFAIK, none of the big OEMs use them.I would also imagine it would be hugely vunerable to dust, soot, etc; the fin configuration looks very delicate. Can you comment on the latter?
You need a quieter environment . The major business-class PCs from the big guys (Optiplex/Precision, DC "Elite"/Z, non-edge Thinkcentre series) are pretty quiet, so long as you don't put them under a high load, and so long as you ignore their potential roar on bootup. Likewsie, none of them make home/consumer machines that are as quiet, except for AIOs, and I have not been impressed with most of those (including the business models) for other reasons (like not having enough expansion, hard to get to ports, low max RAM, and commonly lacking in options for added displays). But, dead silent? They still need some work to reach that .And one more once, all Optis are known for being quiet, and all three of mine have been. This new one I am on......is dead silent.
Practically all new HDDs have low enough vibration that, in a single-drive PC, it doesn't take much to keep the forces confined to the drive. IMO, Dell also has among the best sleds for handling several drives. I'll just speculate that they must have it patented, because a plastic sled with some nubs should be easy and cheap for companies like Corsair or Fractal.Design to copy.The fans, my new/used WD Black as well......dead silent.
As for the cooler, OMG. I had no idea anything like that existed! I would also imagine it would be hugely vunerable to dust, soot, etc; the fin configuration looks very delicate. Can you comment on the latter?
Well Hell, in that case, anything around a GT 620, or Radeon 6450 will be more than enough. And, for such a GPU, fully passive cooling is no problem at all. The trouble w/ gaming/pro video cards is that GPUs haven't been getting lower power when under load, but simply really good at scaling to their load, so a given GPU might use 10W idle, but 150W under load--that's about double what a typical stock CPU is going to use under full load. Without those performance needs, stock passive cards will work fine, should be easy to find, and won't be something you'll need when you upgrade.
I do wish they'd have proper dust filters, though. They are very nice to have, but AFAIK, none of the big OEMs use them.
But, dead silent? They still need some work to reach that .
I had an AGP Sapphire ATi Radeon 9800 with Hynix vRam that I flashed to a 9800XT and mounted a Zalman Passive cooler to it and man did she ROCK.
MB was a Slot 1 ASUS P3V4X with a Taulitin 1.3 Celron on a Vidded MSI converter card running at 1800Mhz's with a Win98SE OS.
Ram was SD 150Mhz @ 1.8v's.
Still got that HotRod in the closet - Ever see Win95C FLY ;o)
You can drastically reduce the amount of dust getting into your case if you use a positive-pressure configuration (more airflow volume blowing in than out) and if you make sure all fan intakes are filtered. Many cases are already set up this way by default - Silverstone in particular is really bullish on positive-pressure designs.
Haswell's IGP is faster, and the drivers are good enough, now. You won't need any card, in the future.Well, I will keep this in mind should I ever want to upgrade! I have very modest ATI Radeon HD 4550, 512MBs. it serves my non gamer needs really well! Also now runs cool after I upped the fan speed.
I live surrounded by trees, with no non-nature sounds through about half of most days. I have little doubt that your ambient noise level can be higher than the Optiplex's output.I live in Manhattan and in the front of this landmark building.....so exhaust from vehicles of all kinds comes in every second, even in winter with windows only a bit open! and, cause it is fossil fuel based, this is OILY residue (Eeeeewwwww).
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No! If you get me a bible of some kind, I will swear on it. (...)
Yep., hand to heaven, dead silent. (...)
Everybody else wants to cheap, and then they wonder why it doesn't last...*sigh*I would never ever buy a consumer level desktop from any commercial Mfg. Evah. Or, anything but what my delving and differential judgement led me to long ago.
Haswell's IGP is faster, and the drivers are good enough, now. You won't need any card, in the future.
Everybody else wants to cheap, and then they wonder why it doesn't last...*sigh*
Nirvana? No, just suburbia. If AC doesn't need to run, everything but the light pollution mostly does down at night, and the vegetation takes up much of the minor noises that are occurring all about the neighborhood. I've visited NYC, once, and would like to, again, but it was a totally different world than what I'm used to, in every way.YES, SO ACCURATE..ambient noise---tho I live in a relatively quiet part of the City---polar opposite to the Nirvana you live in with the sounds of only nature.
Money, and needing to have something right now, most of the time. It's hard to explain to many people the value in spending just a couple hundred more for something that will last (especially now that basic computer use does not need high-performance parts), much like explaining buying a cell phone and using a MVNO, v. going with a contract.Not sure if it's about money; I think maybe it's more about not being focused, patient and so, discerning.
Nirvana? No, just suburbia. If AC doesn't need to run, everything but the light pollution mostly does down at night, and the vegetation takes up much of the minor noises that are occurring all about the neighborhood. I've visited NYC, once, and would like to, again, but it was a totally different world than what I'm used to, in every way.
Money, and needing to have something right now, most of the time. It's hard to explain to many people the value in spending just a couple hundred more for something that will last (especially now that basic computer use does not need high-performance parts), much like explaining buying a cell phone and using a MVNO, v. going with a contract.
*sigh* I wish most of the people I had to deal with regularly had that kind of patience. Even when presented with the cap and op costs crunched for them, they tend to choose the option that will be the cheapest up front, or the fastest to reach their door, even if they aren't in dire need, and have been complaining about needing to reduce costs.
I do that for family members, since they rarely need a DIY machine, and that's how I go about getting notebooks. Used business machines with RAM upgrades and new drives tend to be good values.
Don throw them out. However noisy, they sound cool.
I probably won't, I keep everything these days, unless it's dead.
Way back in the day, I had one of those crazy Delta 6500 RPM fans.... I sold it to somebody who had lousy hearing, so they couldn't tell it sounded like a 747 under their desk. That thing could almost hover!
Having owned a hd7750 and currently owning a hi-end hd7970 with a high-end aftermarket cooler. this setup is better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202069
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835242030
1) costs a lot of money
2) you need a huge case
3) pretty much the best you can do with a single card.
4) very quiet