Fan set up in modded C70.

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BonzaiDuck

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Probably a useful exercise, if you thought it was worth it.

I would think 1.44V is abusively excessive for those cores. It's a 22nm lithography, so you could risk an educated guess that the limit could be the pervasive opinion about the Ivy Bridge cores. People were speculating that it was around 1.30V, and that sounds reasonable to me.

I'd have to see firsthand how voltage and temperatures vary.

From your project, I conclude that a single-fan AiO is sufficient to cool the 4790K @4.6 to keep the core temperatures at or below the TCASE spec -- for what the spec might be worth. Some folks think that the arcane spec is irrelevant to anything, but it's a useful comparison.

It also seems obvious -- you say so -- that squeezing another 200 Mhz isn't worth the trouble except to just say "you can."

The only thing I don't like is the AiO configuration in general with a single pump. If the computer shuts down at the throttling temperature limit, I suppose that a failed pump wouldn't kill the whole monster.

Somebody else noted that the quality of AiO pumps had quickly improved from the time of their introduction. But I'm also wondering what clock-speed and thermal wattage would be under stress load by putting my ACX cooler on a 4790K.

It certainly proves that you can keep Devils Canyon pretty chill under stock speeds that push the limits of the stock cooler.

With a Sandy Bridge and the stock Intel cooler, the lead core temperature exceeds 87C when just overclocking to 4.2Ghz on a BIOS "auto" voltage setting. I'm at about 74C at 4.8 Ghz. I don't like the voltage at 4.8, and 4.7 runs as cool as your system at 4.6. Obviously, the voltages are higher on the SB-K chip.

I'm stunned at the thermal wattage you reported for the 4790K. I guess it proves my point about the Haswell die-shrink, if it's a point that needs proving.
 
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wgusler

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Update on the C70. After being badgered by pop ups to update the Aquaero 5 LT controller, like a fool, I did. Three hours of removing and reinstalling the software,updated the MB bios, deleting all the registry entries and re installing , still will not read the MB sensors. Ok, F you Aquaaero.

Removed it and installed a 8 port PWM fan hub. Replaced the2 front fans with Notcua NF A14 2000 RPM 140 mm PWM Fans and the fans on the H80 with two Notcua NF A12 2000 RPM 120 mm PWM Fans in push pull. Ran them off the MB and set up the temp curves via the BIOS, but the fans were constantly changing RPM. Now the fans are controlled by the Corsair Link software and seem to be better as far as spooling.

Temp numbers are the same as the old set-up and it is quieter. What I learned here is that you spend the money up front for good 4 wire PWM fans and buy a MB with better fan config settings. Aquaaero...................meh.

My new Fractal 4790K build is set up with the Notcua 4 wire fans and Corsair link and works great. Like I said in that post, I don't think the H115i is any great shakes, I believe It would run at the same or better temp wise with with an H80 set up like this rig, but just more noise.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Interesting that you refreshed this dated thread. I'm not big on buying cases for every build, and I recycle them. But your exploits with the C70 inclined me to buy one for my server build -- still waiting to be finished.

All we DIY enthusiasts face a tug-of-war between simplicity with elegant solutions and complexity designed to cover all bases. I've avoided using third-party or add-on fan-controllers for years, and nevertheless was always impressed with the Aquaero.

I think that's a reason I chose the Sabertooth for my latest system's motherboard. I actually need to pause and think to enumerate how many fan-ports that thing has. There are six CHA_FAN ports alone. They are all configurable as either DC- or PWM-controllable individually in BIOS, equally true of the CPU/OPT and PUMP fan ports, and there are three more "Assistant" fan ports similarly configurable. The worst of it is the AI Suite software, which -- nevertheless elegant -- uses clock-cycles or otherwise increases CPU usage by 3 to 5%. After using it to assess and configure, it is best uninstalled. One can configure the fan curves in the BIOS anyway.

So with all those fan ports, what did I do? I used a Swiftech 8-port PWM hub or splitter running from the CPU_OPT port for three 140mm Akasa Viper fans. The rear 120mm iPPC 3000 exhaust fan is connected to the CPU port. And I soldered a harness for two 140mm side-panel fans in parallel to run from a single CHA_FAN port. That leaves a second CHA_FAN port for a second barrel-fan (CM Crossflow) as a second exhaust, and a 40mm intake fan from the I/O port blowing over the hotter VRMs.

It used to be the case that there was never enough fan control and never enough motherboard fan ports. That's where we got into this quandary involving extra USB-connected fan-controllers and other complications. It's been a helluva nice motherboard so far.

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