Fantastic Four

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slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I just don't understand why they felt a reboot was necessary. The most recent series was excellent. Enough humor, decent villans, good storyline. This is like the reboot of batman. Just leave it alone.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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People saying this is proof that super hero movies need to stop are partly right. Marvel super hero movies need to go back to marvel...

The marvel made super hero movies have done great.
 

core2slow

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Mar 7, 2008
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I keep reading that FOX is making this movie so that they can retain the rights to FF. Is there a contractual agreement that the studios have to make X amount of superhero movies in X amount of years or they'll forfeit and return the rights back to Marvel studio?
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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I keep reading that FOX is making this movie so that they can retain the rights to FF. Is there a contractual agreement that the studios have to make X amount of superhero movies in X amount of years or they'll forfeit and return the rights back to Marvel studio?

In a nutshell, yes.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Just about all of the non-marvel movies have that stipulation in their contract. One of the reasons sony gave a majority of spiderman back to marvel was to get out of that part.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Hoping this reboot flops so Marvel gets the IP back to it. Everyone DON'T go see this movie so it happens.

Otherwise we'll have another terrible reboot in 3-5 years just so they can hold on to the IP.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Hoping this reboot flops so Marvel gets the IP back to it. Everyone DON'T go see this movie so it happens.

Otherwise we'll have another terrible reboot in 3-5 years just so they can hold on to the IP.

Kinda crazy how it looks like Fox is doing X-Men and Deadpool right but failing hard on F4.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Kinda crazy how it looks like Fox is doing X-Men and Deadpool right but failing hard on F4.

Say what??? The last X-Men was a complete leadup to a new reboot since the previous films were barely tied into the comic story. They were ok, but I didn't think any of the previous X-Men films were all that good although I did like most of the casting. Not all though. Rogue and Ice man being teenies is just NO.

That and the deadpool they already introduced with Wolverine Origins... HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. I do like that one animated theater teaser that hasn't really come to fruition that was put out a few years back with his voice over to a good deadpool. That was pretty cool, but the actual movie we have with deadpool was crap.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
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Say what??? The last X-Men was a complete leadup to a new reboot since the previous films were barely tied into the comic story. They were ok, but I didn't think any of the previous X-Men films were all that good although I did like most of the casting. Not all though. Rogue and Ice man being teenies is just NO.

That and the deadpool they already introduced with Wolverine Origins... HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. I do like that one animated theater teaser that hasn't really come to fruition that was put out a few years back with his voice over to a good deadpool. That was pretty cool, but the actual movie we have with deadpool was crap.

So you haven't seen this yet, huh?

potentially nsfw (profanity)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKWUTwSYAs

SFW version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONHBaC-pfsk
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
14,705
117
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Say what??? The last X-Men was a complete leadup to a new reboot since the previous films were barely tied into the comic story. They were ok, but I didn't think any of the previous X-Men films were all that good although I did like most of the casting. Not all though. Rogue and Ice man being teenies is just NO.

That and the deadpool they already introduced with Wolverine Origins... HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. I do like that one animated theater teaser that hasn't really come to fruition that was put out a few years back with his voice over to a good deadpool. That was pretty cool, but the actual movie we have with deadpool was crap.

You're a bit behind. That sparked the interest. They just released the trailer for it yesterday.

All of the X-Men besides X3 and Wolverine Origins have been decent to good.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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That and the deadpool they already introduced with Wolverine Origins... HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. I do like that one animated theater teaser that hasn't really come to fruition that was put out a few years back with his voice over to a good deadpool. That was pretty cool, but the actual movie we have with deadpool was crap.


Psst. they are talking about the new movie coming out. That is based off the comic. It is going to have a R rating and try to stay true to the comic as close as it can.

in short? it looks fucking awesome.
 

gorobei

Diamond Member
Jan 7, 2007
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There's actually an error in that image as well. The Hulk should be in the bubble with Namor as the publishing options for The Hulk are with Universal, but Marvel has creative freedom to make a movie.
hulk rights are back at marvel pictures but universal gets first refusal on distribution. that's the main reason we wont see a mark ruffalo movie any time soon. marvel would be paying for production but universal gets the money from distributing. disney would never allow this.
I'm trying to figure out if the grey shared part with Namor is somehow different than the green shared part with the Maximoff siblings. Are the licensing rights that Marvel enjoys between those groups somehow different, or is it just different coloring in the diagram?

and lol: Namor. Who wants to do anything with that? I guess Lionsgate was like, "Yeah, uh, can you guys please buy this guy back--how's 10 bucks?"

I don't know about the state of the Namor rights (because who cares), but for the Maximoff twins, it was a deal they were allowed to use the characters but couldn't refer to them as mutants or allude to their father, Magneto.
a while back namor was officially classified as a mutant in the comics due to the ankle wings not being part of native marvel atlantean anatomy. all mutants in the marvel universe are supposed to go to Fox. his 1939 run probably protects the IP from the mutant clause.
Namor is, traditionally, more of a nemesis for the FF, though. Doesn't make much sense to bring him into the MCU unless they get the FF, too.
He has a long history though predating the FF. They could have tied him in with Captain America and the original Human Torch fighting Nazis and/or Hydra.

childs is correct here, namor appeared back in ww2(1939) with cap and torch in their respective titles. they were later retconned in 1970's to have been working together as the Invaders supergroup.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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So you haven't seen this yet, huh?

potentially nsfw (profanity)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKWUTwSYAs

SFW version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONHBaC-pfsk

I know

this was the old trailer version put out awhile ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yCINTGz2_s

I said if they made a movie based off deadpool like that it was bound to be much better than the crud they've released thus far. So far the newer trailers are making me think they finally upped their game this time.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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I think we've reached about peak superhero and on the downward slope of quality and fun.

You could have said that with every release of Spider man. Fact is some are doing it right and some are doing it wrong. Here's to hoping DC gets it right with the new Justice League stuff.

This film looks like a popcorn action flick at best.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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You could have said that with every release of Spider man. Fact is some are doing it right and some are doing it wrong. Here's to hoping DC gets it right with the new Justice League stuff.

This film looks like a popcorn action flick at best.

Deadpool is a popcorn action flick by nature. That IS the deadpool character. He is a comic book character that knows he's a comic book character and is meant really as a satire to comic book superheroes in a way.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Deadpool is a popcorn action flick by nature. That IS the deadpool character. He is a comic book character that knows he's a comic book character and is meant really as a satire to comic book superheroes in a way.

When I said "this movie" I was talking about F4.

With Deadpool I expect it, hell I'd be pissed if it wasn't.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Thx.

I thought age of Ultron sucked though.

They haven't quite figured out how to do the mega flick just yet, close, but it ain't there. I think they try to squeeze everyone in instead of letting what used to be main characters sit on the side more.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Deadpool is a popcorn action flick by nature. That IS the deadpool character. He is a comic book character that knows he's a comic book character and is meant really as a satire to comic book superheroes in a way.

He reminds me of a cross between peter parker (sarcastic wit) and the punisher (violent).

Would be interesting to see them combine more superheros into new ones. How about a telepath like Prof X who can only read people's minds if he's angry? Or a kinetic energy scream (Black Bolt, Banshee) who can only use their power when laughing? In a major battle, I can see the Laughman beating down his foes while cracking himself up.
 
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