Fantastic Four

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HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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When I said "this movie" I was talking about F4.

With Deadpool I expect it, hell I'd be pissed if it wasn't.

Ah.

Yah I'm expecting F4 to flop and rooting for it to do so. Of course I didn't pay to see the last few incarnations of it either.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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Comic book franchises are starting to bore me a lot these days to be honest.

Way too many speculative fiction books out there that could be made that it just annoys me IMHO.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Comic book franchises are starting to bore me a lot these days to be honest.

Way too many speculative fiction books out there that could be made that it just annoys me IMHO.

Then don't watch them? It's only a few studios putting them out, the biggest of which are Marvel (who only does comic book movies duh). They put them out because they are already pre done story lines that usually don't require much rewritting for the big screen and have built in fan audiences for those stories. Same reason a lot of these young adult books are having film adaptations. Teens and young adults go to the movies far more than any other demographic. So cater to what goes to the movie.

Super hero movies are better than other genres in that they tend to transcend generational gaps at this point. Everyone from grandparents to little kids can enjoy a super hero movie. Big movie studios are out to make profits, not make every possible story into a movie. Go to the sundance film festival for that or make your own.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Ah.

Yah I'm expecting F4 to flop and rooting for it to do so. Of course I didn't pay to see the last few incarnations of it either.

Normally I don't wish for things to fail, I'd be happy if Spiderman and F4 came back to Marvel. However, they are too far along the story to bring in F4, and almost too late for Spiderman. Glad they figured out that mess, just wish it would have been done before Ultron.
 

AznAnarchy99

Lifer
Dec 6, 2004
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Normally I don't wish for things to fail, I'd be happy if Spiderman and F4 came back to Marvel. However, they are too far along the story to bring in F4, and almost too late for Spiderman. Glad they figured out that mess, just wish it would have been done before Ultron.

Creative direction for Spider-Man is back at Marvel now.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Normally I don't wish for things to fail, I'd be happy if Spiderman and F4 came back to Marvel. However, they are too far along the story to bring in F4, and almost too late for Spiderman. Glad they figured out that mess, just wish it would have been done before Ultron.

Not sure how they'd ever be too far along the story to bring in the FF. If anything it would probably work out better in the story, otherwise we'd all be wondering why Richards didn't just create some kind of doohickey to blow out the invasion in Avengers.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Not sure how they'd ever be too far along the story to bring in the FF. If anything it would probably work out better in the story, otherwise we'd all be wondering why Richards didn't just create some kind of doohickey to blow out the invasion in Avengers.

Maybe, I'm only casually aware of the story arc for civil war, but I thought Richards had a key role that's already been rewritten because F4 wasn't available.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Maybe, I'm only casually aware of the story arc for civil war, but I thought Richards had a key role that's already been rewritten because F4 wasn't available.

Richards has a roll. nothing so major that it can't be rewritten. Spiderman has a far bigger roll in it.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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Richards has a roll. nothing so major that it can't be rewritten. Spiderman has a far bigger roll in it.

I assume you're speaking of the books. If you are, I'm not sure I agree with you on that. Spider-Man had more emotional stuff in the book as he was the victim of the whole thing.
For those that don't know, he outed his identity for Stark to show his support for the registration law. It was one of the more amusing pages in the book as Jamison finally discovers Parker was Spider-Man. He then flips sides and has to deal with the fallout of everyone coming after him and everyone he loves. It was what lead into the stupidest (even counting the clone saga) arc of One More Day.
but even then Richards gave up everything and was one of the major designers of it all. The prison, the spin tech, almost everything behind the scenes was Stark and Richards' work. (and Pym too, though the next arc Secret Invasion called that into question) A lot of pages were devoted to the side story of Sue Richards being on Cap's side and that fall out. To sum up, Richards was a very key piece of that story, I personally think even more than Spider-Man.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I assume you're speaking of the books. If you are, I'm not sure I agree with you on that. Spider-Man had more emotional stuff in the book as he was the victim of the whole thing.
For those that don't know, he outed his identity for Stark to show his support for the registration law. It was one of the more amusing pages in the book as Jamison finally discovers Parker was Spider-Man. He then flips sides and has to deal with the fallout of everyone coming after him and everyone he loves. It was what lead into the stupidest (even counting the clone saga) arc of One More Day.
but even then Richards gave up everything and was one of the major designers of it all. The prison, the spin tech, almost everything behind the scenes was Stark and Richards' work. (and Pym too, though the next arc Secret Invasion called that into question) A lot of pages were devoted to the side story of Sue Richards being on Cap's side and that fall out. To sum up, Richards was a very key piece of that story, I personally think even more than Spider-Man.


Sure reed designers of the prison but they could easily re-write it without reed. they have stark and pym.

the side arcs with sue are great but not important (but yes a great story in itself) and can be withheld without any problems.

I think having parker come out was far bigger.

either way we both agree "one more day" was a big turd.
 

Skel

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Apr 11, 2001
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You know, I honestly can't say I feel that Parker coming out was bigger. I knew it was going to be reversed, granted I didn't know ODM was on it's way. It just took the wind out of those sails for me. I do concede though, I was one of those people who really hated Civil War. The concept of the heroes battling each other over a X-Men storyline being rehashed as new was stupid to me. I think it's a even worse idea for a movie at this point as really feel like they haven't set up the MCU to really have anyone care that much. Even outing Spider-Man (which I can't believe they're going to do as they're just introducing him) wouldn't have that much impact. Out of all the story lines they could be doing, CW is one of the stupidest.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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You know, I honestly can't say I feel that Parker coming out was bigger. I knew it was going to be reversed, granted I didn't know ODM was on it's way. It just took the wind out of those sails for me. I do concede though, I was one of those people who really hated Civil War. The concept of the heroes battling each other over a X-Men storyline being rehashed as new was stupid to me. I think it's a even worse idea for a movie at this point as really feel like they haven't set up the MCU to really have anyone care that much. Even outing Spider-Man (which I can't believe they're going to do as they're just introducing him) wouldn't have that much impact. Out of all the story lines they could be doing, CW is one of the stupidest.

i agree fully. I wasn't a huge fan of Civil War. it was hardly a war and the fallout from it was silly. nothing really happened.

I just don't see how they can do Civil War justice in one movie.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Disney dodged a bullet when they took Star Wars from this guy. And so did we.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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i agree fully. I wasn't a huge fan of Civil War. it was hardly a war and the fallout from it was silly. nothing really happened.

I didn't care for Civil War either. I thought the ending was just a bit too abrupt and "easy". It didn't help that the huge (temporary) change actually occurred outside the Civil War issues and in Captain America's comic.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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Then don't watch them? It's only a few studios putting them out, the biggest of which are Marvel (who only does comic book movies duh). They put them out because they are already pre done story lines that usually don't require much rewritting for the big screen and have built in fan audiences for those stories. Same reason a lot of these young adult books are having film adaptations. Teens and young adults go to the movies far more than any other demographic. So cater to what goes to the movie.

Super hero movies are better than other genres in that they tend to transcend generational gaps at this point. Everyone from grandparents to little kids can enjoy a super hero movie. Big movie studios are out to make profits, not make every possible story into a movie. Go to the sundance film festival for that or make your own.

In general I don't these days.

Just me not watching them isn't going to influence decisions made on what to make I suppose.
 

NuclearNed

Raconteur
May 18, 2001
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weird - James Berardinelli, a reviewer who I really like, gave FF 2.5/4 stars

He seems to suggest that this movie is better than the bad buzz surrounding it. He still didn't really like it, but he also didn't exactly pan it either.
 
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