Fashion Model walks into plane propeller

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alkemyst

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Ive never been on a plane like this. Doesnt the pilot warn people about getting near the front? Stupid people happen.

Guess you missed the part above that even experienced people have made the error of walking into propellers.

She could have thought she was clear of them. The accident seems more of her just getting tapped rather than walking into the dead center of the prop.

The pilot more than likely told her to steer clear of the blades which she probably thought she did.

As far as those saying he should have killed his props first, sometimes these are on busy airports and as soon as the passenger is off, they are getting back into the air to clear the runway and get another passenger picked up or landed.
 

roguerower

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Guess you missed the part above that even experienced people have made the error of walking into propellers.

She could have thought she was clear of them. The accident seems more of her just getting tapped rather than walking into the dead center of the prop.

The pilot more than likely told her to steer clear of the blades which she probably thought she did.

So she should get a pass because she thought she had cleared the blades by the bare minimum and ended up getting chopped instead? If anything that means she is even more stupid than originally thought.

As far as those saying he should have killed his props first, sometimes these are on busy airports and as soon as the passenger is off, they are getting back into the air to clear the runway and get another passenger picked up or landed.

Every public airport that has a commercial service into and out of it has a ramp for commercial flights and a ramp for general aviation. A passenger is never instructed to leave an aircraft while on a runway or taxiway. A pilot will land and taxi to the appropriate ramp before disembarking passengers. Stop spouting bullshit in an effort to sound intelligent when you clearly have no idea how airport operations work.

Pilot does get some blame in all of this.
 

alkemyst

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Its clear you haven't gotten out much and assume everyone has a larger understanding of things than they do.

Once you grow up, you will be surprised what a knucklehead you are.
 

roguerower

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Its clear you haven't gotten out much and assume everyone has a larger understanding of things than they do.

Once you grow up, you will be surprised what a knucklehead you are.

How does "me getting out" have anything to do with you posting something completely false and me correcting you? Don't post when you don't know what you're talking about.

Once you pull your head out of your ass you'll be surprised by what a complete idiot you are.
 

waggy

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How does "me getting out" have anything to do with you posting something completely false and me correcting you? Don't post when you don't know what you're talking about.

Once you pull your head out of your ass you'll be surprised by what a complete idiot you are.

are you new? you should know how alky is. at least he didn't say you were butthurt over something or jelly because he makes more.


anyway the girl gets 90% of the blame. the pilot 5% teh propeller 5% (hey people blame guns so why not the propeller!?)
 

alkemyst

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Well, since I have gotten in and out of planes like this, I will say you are a fucking moron if you think every landing strip works like you local major airport.
 

alkemyst

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are you new? you should know how alky is. at least he didn't say you were butthurt over something or jelly because he makes more.


anyway the girl gets 90% of the blame. the pilot 5% teh propeller 5% (hey people blame guns so why not the propeller!?)

Fortunately you would never pass the drug tests to make these decisions.
 

alkemyst

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How does "me getting out" have anything to do with you posting something completely false and me correcting you? Don't post when you don't know what you're talking about.

Once you pull your head out of your ass you'll be surprised by what a complete idiot you are.

That single prop has a compatible ramp?
 

roguerower

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And I've got 28 flight hours in a Cessna 172 landing at private strips, small public strips, and regional airports...your point? When my instructor got out of the plane for my first solo (at a private strip), I taxied to the ramp, shut down the plane, she got out, then I started up, taxied to the runway and took off. I didn't dump her on the runway or taxiway.

So glad that you've climbed into and out of airplanes like this. The pilot stopped the plane in the middle of the runway and made you climb out? Bullshit.
 

chusteczka

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Found in news story:
"Miss Scruggs suffered serious facial injuries when she climbed out of a 2011 Aviat Husky at the private airport in Texas"


The wing supports directly under the door panel require someone to either move forward or backward. It is normal for our legs to carry us forward due to the bend of our knee and the momentum from person's bodyweight hopping to the ground and moving forward would carry a person 2-3 steps. There is not much room between the wing supports and the propeller. 3-4 steps and a person is at the propeller.

I believe the pilot should have shut down the engine before allowing her to deplane. It seems to be completely the pilot's fault. He was not thinking of the situation and failed to prevent the accident from happening.

Source: http://www.scientiaweb.com/2011/12/...-walks-into-the-plane-propeller-gets-injured/
 

alkemyst

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And I've got 28 flight hours in a Cessna 172 landing at private strips, small public strips, and regional airports...your point? When my instructor got out of the plane for my first solo (at a private strip), I taxied to the ramp, shut down the plane, she got out, then I started up, taxied to the runway and took off. I didn't dump her on the runway or taxiway.

So glad that you've climbed into and out of airplanes like this. The pilot stopped the plane in the middle of the runway and made you climb out? Bullshit.

Stick with airplane lessons kid, everything is 100% safe and perfect.

Lolz
 

roguerower

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Stick with airplane lessons kid, everything is 100% safe and perfect.

Lolz

You never answered the question. Don't sidestep because you got called out.

I never suggested that everything is safe and perfect, I don't know where you're getting that from.
 

skyking

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Pilot does get some blame in all of this.
Really?
In your first post it went like this:
Idiot. What a fucking moron. You always approach and depart an airplane with a spinning propeller from the rear.

You just spent time up in the air and the damn thing was roaring away. She gets down on the ground and it's still load and she thinks it's ok to go walking into it?

No pity from me for someone this stupid.

Quite a bit of hate there for a stranger, laying in a hospital bed without a hand and a brain injury, head trauma.
If you honestly think back to your pre-jump training, they hammered the ramp safety issue in pretty good.
You also have received flight instruction. You know about magnetos and P-Leads, never to move the prop, etc.

Now think about this 23 year old young lady who went out to look at Christmas lights. It was probably her first airplane ride.
She got none of that training, and rode with a negligent pilot who put her at risk, for what? Not wanting to do a hot start?
 

roguerower

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Really?
In your first post it went like this:


Quite a bit of hate there for a stranger, laying in a hospital bed without a hand and a brain injury, head trauma.
If you honestly think back to your pre-jump training, they hammered the ramp safety issue in pretty good.
You also have received flight instruction. You know about magnetos and P-Leads, never to move the prop, etc.

Now think about this 23 year old young lady who went out to look at Christmas lights. It was probably her first airplane ride.
She got none of that training, and rode with a negligent pilot who put her at risk, for what? Not wanting to do a hot start?

I don't hate the victim, and I do feel bad for what happened to her, but I don't pity her.

Yes, the pilot is at fault for not taking the proper safety precautions when dealing with a passenger who was unfamiliar with the aircraft in question. I can easily place 25-40% of the blame squarely onto his shoulders. That said, the rest of the blame falls on the victim.

I do agree that my experience around small aircraft does skew my POV, but a 23 year old woman should understand that you don't get out of an airplane with a nose mounted propeller and walk towards it.
 

alkemyst

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You never answered the question. Don't sidestep because you got called out.

I never suggested that everything is safe and perfect, I don't know where you're getting that from.

called out? you are a freaking nutter. grow the fuck up.

Yes, I have been flown down to a private runway, had the plane stop midway, I get out and the plane almost immediately continues to drop the next person off.

Like I said, you are just some flight school flunkie that thinks everyone should know that jet engines and propellers have 'fields' around them.

There is a reason in almost every pre-flight evacuation skit that the flight attendants warn do not exit out of certain areas if the engines are still on. Some say do not exit from certain doors unless instructed by the crew it is safe to do so.

lol at you always claiming to call me out...*ruffle ruffle* here is a dollar, go buy yourself a candy bar.
 

alkemyst

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Really?
In your first post it went like this:


Quite a bit of hate there for a stranger, laying in a hospital bed without a hand and a brain injury, head trauma.
If you honestly think back to your pre-jump training, they hammered the ramp safety issue in pretty good.
You also have received flight instruction. You know about magnetos and P-Leads, never to move the prop, etc.

Now think about this 23 year old young lady who went out to look at Christmas lights. It was probably her first airplane ride.
She got none of that training, and rode with a negligent pilot who put her at risk, for what? Not wanting to do a hot start?

RR is hard like that. He straight ballah.
 

roguerower

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called out? you are a freaking nutter. grow the fuck up.

Yes, I have been flown down to a private runway, had the plane stop midway, I get out and the plane almost immediately continues to drop the next person off.

Like I said, you are just some flight school flunkie that thinks everyone should know that jet engines and propellers have 'fields' around them. Pay for college, pay for hobby...difficult choice. Guess I'll have to pay for college and stop flying. And yes, if you're flying in an aircraft which you don't board through a jetway, you sure as shit better know where not to walk.

There is a reason in almost every pre-flight evacuation skit that the flight attendants warn do not exit out of certain areas if the engines are still on. Some say do not exit from certain doors unless instructed by the crew it is safe to do so. I will say you are a fucking moron if you think every aircraft's emergency procedures are the same as those for a large commercial jet.

lol at you always claiming to call me out...*ruffle ruffle* here is a dollar, go buy yourself a candy bar.

Who's claiming? I asked you a question and you didn't answer it at first. You just did but your answer still doesn't make any sense. The pilot popped the door open with the plane still running in the middle of the runway, you got out, the door was closed and the plane just flew off without taxing back to the start of the runway? Where the fuck was this?
 
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