Fast Food walkout - Nationwide

[nehalem256]

Hey guys, you'll never guess who has yet again shoved words in someone's mouth to try and prove their point and showcase that they cannot have an open an honest debate. No really.

Well to be fair to eskimo its fair to have an open and honest debate when you trying to support an ideology that says:

Poor women are horrible people that would rather let their own children starve than change their behavior, but we should reward them with welfare and/or above market wages.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Well to be fair to eskimo its fair to have an open and honest debate when you trying to support an ideology that says:

Poor women are horrible people that would rather let their own children starve than change their behavior, but we should reward them with welfare and/or above market wages.

I'm sure he will change the day after you stop being a misogynistic troll.

 

[schneiderguy]

Didn't read the thread but all this will accomplish is the hastening of these jobs being replaced by robots. Imagine how much money McDonalds would save in the long run if they replaced the 10-15 trained monkeys behind the counter with a few touchscreens to check out your order, and an automated production line for hamburgers. You would only really need one employee per store to supervise things.

I'm sure he will change the day after you stop being a misogynistic troll.

If you ever manage to surgically reattach your testicles you will see the error of your ways.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Didn't read the thread but all this will accomplish is the hastening of these jobs being replaced by robots. Imagine how much money McDonalds would save in the long run if they replaced the 10-15 trained monkeys behind the counter with a few touchscreens to check out your order, and an automated production line for hamburgers. You would only really need one employee per store to supervise things.



If you ever manage to surgically reattach your testicles you will see the error of your ways.

I'm pretty sure my balls were still there when I took a leak 10 minutes ago, but then again I'm not a manlet so whether or not my balls are attached isn't something I worry about.

 

[Zaap]

Didn't read the thread but all this will accomplish is the hastening of these jobs being replaced by robots.

I want to start my own fast food joint where the customers come in, press a button themselves, and watch behind the glass as burger patties drop onto conveyor belts over flames. The customers select how long they want their burgers cooked, what side orders, and fixings, all of which drop in assembly-line style. Their finished order comes out the other side- they can bag it themselves, or stick it on a tray.

Another seperate assemby will handle the drive through as customers do the same process driving past in their cars.

One very well-paid (and qualified) technician will be in the back to fix anything that could possibly go wrong.

Zaapburger will be coming soon to a city near you, so watch for it folks! Free burgers for everyone who comes in with a printout of this coupon:

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***ENJOY ONE FREE***

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*offer expires 8/29/16*
[size=-2]Offer valid at all automated Zaapburger locations[/size]
SUCK A FAT ONE, LIBS

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[nehalem256]

I want to start my own fast food joint where the customers come in, press a button themselves, and watch behind the glass as burger patties drop onto conveyor belts over flames. The customers select how long they want their burgers cooked, what side orders, and fixings, all of which drop in assembly-line style. Their finished order comes out the other side- they can bag it themselves, or stick it on a tray.

Another seperate assemby will handle the drive through as customers do the same process driving past in their cars.

One very well-paid (and qualified) technician will be in the back to fix anything that could possibly go wrong.

Zaapburger will be coming soon to a city near you, so watch for it folks! Free burgers for everyone who comes in with a printout of this coupon:

It sounds like a great idea until you run into the issue of half your customers being unable to operate the ordering system.

 

[Zaap]

That's why I'm giving myself 'til 2016 to idiot-proof it. You're right, a big red button that says "START!" and some that say "KETCHUP" "MUSTARD" "PICKLE" might be too confusing for some.

I'm thinking I need an animated cartoon that people watch before they come where my mascot explains the process in terms even a lefty can understand. "Now this is where you decide what you want on your Zaapburger..." etc. etc. Maybe I can have a button that automatically translates it into several different languages: English, Spanish, Ebonics, etc...

 

[drebo]

Can you show me any correlation whatsoever between fertility rates and the level of governmental assistance available? I bet you if anything I can show you an inverse correlation.

So your choices are between one world where children go hungry and another world where correlations that have not existed before suddenly pop into being.

Needless to say, these are extraordinarily poor choices.

Does it matter what the rate is?

Logic dictates that if you can't support yourself (or your current family) you probably shouldn't have kids. And yet many still do. As such, a fertility rate of >0 while on welfare = a "parent" making bad decisions.

And I can guarantee that the number is >0.

 

[Engineer]

That's why I'm giving myself 'til 2016 to idiot-proof it.

No matter how much you 'idiot-proof' anything, it will always fail. Somebody...somewhere....will always invent a better idiot (learned from working around factory machinery for the last 20+ years).

 

[ultimatebob]

I want to start my own fast food joint where the customers come in, press a button themselves, and watch behind the glass as burger patties drop onto conveyor belts over flames. The customers select how long they want their burgers cooked, what side orders, and fixings, all of which drop in assembly-line style. Their finished order comes out the other side- they can bag it themselves, or stick it on a tray.

Another seperate assemby will handle the drive through as customers do the same process driving past in their cars.

One very well-paid (and qualified) technician will be in the back to fix anything that could possibly go wrong.

Zaapburger will be coming soon to a city near you, so watch for it folks! Free burgers for everyone who comes in with a printout of this coupon:

________________________________________

***ENJOY ONE FREE***

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
|Z|A|A|P|B|U|R|G|E|R|
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
____ _ _ ____ _ __

*offer expires 8/29/16*
[size=-2]Offer valid at all automated Zaapburger locations[/size]
SUCK A FAT ONE, LIBS

________________________________________​

People have already tried designing automated machines like this, but the machines have cost more to install and maintain at this point than hiring a few dummies making $8 a hour to make the burgers. Besides, you still need someone there to feed the machine and keep people from stealing stuff.

At $15 an hour, the economics change. I for one welcome our burger flipping robot overlords

 

[mistercrabby]

http://m.washingtonpost.com/busines...ebf748-0684-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html

I spent several years working in fast food, and I couldn't fathom how I could justify asking my boss to pay me $15/hr -- especially seeing all I did was make sandwiches and counted change (no math involved -- it's all done for you).

Yeah, you can't "raise a family" off $9/hr nor buy a house, but my question is: why are you trying to do those things off that salary anyway?

If they did succeed in getting that pay, well....be prepared to pay $10 for a cheeseburger..

This is so stupid. Everything has a trade off. They'll either fire most of the workforce or we'd be paying 10 bucks for a burger.

Simply short-sighted and greedy.

Rob, I agree. If you're 29 and still working Mickey D's, you have issues.

Everyone has to start somewhere. For some it's college, military, entry-level, trades, whatever.

I'm probably repeating many previous posts, but don't have time to read all. Sorry.

I understand the frustration. But who told you to NOT go to college, learn a trade, bust yo ass, not worry about feeding your babies, look to the gubment, la ti da, etc.

I know people have stories. Life's a bitch. I can be sympathetic. But we got people who don't have papers bustin ass for less the min wage, vets outa work and baby's need food.

Be glad you gotta job. Nobody said you owed a living wage. your great grands looking down think you a pussy. They lived through the class system, the great depression and WW2. You pissed cause you gotta wrap burgers?? Damn.

Choose- either be Greece or be the America that we should be. You can't be both bitches.

 

[Matt1970]

You are not worth $15/hr if you can be trained to do your job in one day.

 

[buckshot24]

Can you show me any correlation whatsoever between fertility rates and the level of governmental assistance available? I bet you if anything I can show you an inverse correlation.

Why don't you just show the graph? You're dying to do so so lets get it over with.

So your choices are between one world where children go hungry and another world where correlations that have not existed before suddenly pop into being.

Do you like the world where walmart workers simply quit because they aren't getting government handouts any longer?

 

[readymix]

90% are just too timid to ever ask for a raise, hoping someday their boss gifts them 3%

thank you!, wimps of the world.


at least they are trying. what's not to like?

 

[fskimospy]

Why don't you just show the graph? You're dying to do so so lets get it over with.
Do you like the world where walmart workers simply quit because they aren't getting government handouts any longer?

I don't have a graph, I just know enough about what sort of fertility rates countries with highly developed welfare states have to have a very strong suspicion that the two are in absolutely no way connected. You've made the claim that they are, so I'm just wondering what that's based on.

I like a world in which business models like that aren't subsidized by the government.

 

[fskimospy]

90% are just too timid to ever ask for a raise, hoping someday their boss gifts them 3%

thank you!, wimps of the world.


at least they are trying. what's not to like?

That's what I find so strange. They aren't asking for the government to help them, they aren't asking for anyone to help them. They are attempting to use their own private bargaining power to the best effect they can. You would think everyone could get behind that.

Actually I'm completely unsurprised at the level of vitriol coming from a lot of the posters here.

 

[Retro Rob]

90% are just too timid to ever ask for a raise, hoping someday their boss gifts them 3%

thank you!, wimps of the world.


at least they are trying. what's not to like?

That's what I find so strange. They aren't asking for the government to help them, they aren't asking for anyone to help them. They are attempting to use their own private bargaining power to the best effect they can. You would think everyone could get behind that.

Actually I'm completely unsurprised at the level of vitriol coming from a lot of the posters here.

Because of their premise "this is a 200 billion dollar/yr industry -- CEOs are making millions, why can't we get a raise?"

What I would personally like to hear is "hey, I need $15 per/hr, what can I do to earn that?" Or better still "is there room for growth?".

I cannot believe people aren't asking these game-changing questions. Asking these kinda "what can I do for YOU" questions are the difference between becoming a manager and remaining a cook.

I used to be all for giving FF workers a raise, until I woke up and realized that they're simply shopping out of other people's pockets.

I cannot support that. I used to be like that until I looked at it from a CEO's POV. I am not going to just give people a raise, so I don't expect them to.

 

[Zaap]

Personally I'm not against the workers themselves actually getting together and walking out until they get a higher wage. If that's really what everyone wanted, then that's what they should do.

But of course I like many others here drove past a half dozen or so fast food joints on the way to work and didn't see a single protestor.

And then there the little details that stink, like from the OP's article:

[The workers — who are backed by local community groups and national unions...]

Ahh, so 'community organizers' and national unions (read SCIU thugs and the like). So basically it smells like the usual leftwing puppet-masters trying to stir up shit among people they couldn't really give two shits about in order to try and shake down businesses yet again... while pretending it's some kind of grass-roots effort started by 'the workers'. Uh huh. Sure.

No matter how much you 'idiot-proof' anything, it will always fail. Somebody...somewhere....will always invent a better idiot (learned from working around factory machinery for the last 20+ years).

So true. Last week I witnessed from 2 cars back in line a 'better idiot' literally bring a gas station automated car wash to a grinding halt. When it was her turn to pull forward at the green arrow, she kept driving in ignoring the red flashing X to stop until she was past the point where the carwash could start. So she sat a few minutes before figuring out to back up... except she kept backing up too far. Another green arrow, and again in too far. Wait. Back up too far. Repeat 5 or 6 times. Finally after a near eternity of this (those of us behind her trying to hand-signal go and stop since green arrows and red x's are too complex) the entire carwash just went dark. She literally crashed it.

Another five minutes or so (us behind are stuck, sort of like a drive-thru lane you can't back out of) the attendant has to come out, and in another five minutes or so 'reboots' the carwash. The idiot gave up on the whole idea of washing her car and just drove right through it rather than attempt the ordeal again.

 

[Svnla]

I would like to ask people that support the notion of giving these fast food employees a pay raise of 2x of their current wage if you ever run your own business and try to make payroll? Be honest.

 

[readymix]

I would like to ask people that support the notion of giving these fast food employees a pay raise of 2x of their current wage if you ever run your own business and try to make payroll? Be honest.

I would be inclined to fire them. on the other hand an employee came to me giving 2 weeks notice. why? for more money of course. I was inclined to ask how much he wanted.

 

[buckshot24]

I don't have a graph, I just know enough about what sort of fertility rates countries with highly developed welfare states have to have a very strong suspicion that the two are in absolutely no way connected. You've made the claim that they are, so I'm just wondering what that's based on.

No I didn't make that claim. None of my "worlds" are claims of fact.

I like a world in which business models like that aren't subsidized by the government.

Are there any jobs that you think shouldn't be used to raise a family? If so do you think it is the employers fault if people try and do it?

The world where Walmart workers give up 100% of their income because they get their assistance cut is absurd.

 

[buckshot24]

90% are just too timid to ever ask for a raise, hoping someday their boss gifts them 3%

thank you!, wimps of the world.


at least they are trying. what's not to like?

There is something to this.

 

[Matt1970]

That's what I find so strange. They aren't asking for the government to help them, they aren't asking for anyone to help them. They are attempting to use their own private bargaining power to the best effect they can. You would think everyone could get behind that.

Actually I'm completely unsurprised at the level of vitriol coming from a lot of the posters here.

You just can't seem to understand why people have differing opinions that you.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That's what I find so strange. They aren't asking for the government to help them, they aren't asking for anyone to help them. They are attempting to use their own private bargaining power to the best effect they can. You would think everyone could get behind that.

Actually I'm completely unsurprised at the level of vitriol coming from a lot of the posters here.

The one protest in Houston had two politicians and union officials, all of which were busy touting the progressive/Democrat talking points of giving the workers a living wage. This is all about the dying unions trying to get more members as they know taking dues from the minimum wage and slightly above workers would make them look bad and adding to the problem.

 

[OverVolt]

Because of their premise "this is a 200 billion dollar/yr industry -- CEOs are making millions, why can't we get a raise?"

What I would personally like to hear is "hey, I need $15 per/hr, what can I do to earn that?" Or better still "is there room for growth?".

I cannot believe people aren't asking these game-changing questions. Asking these kinda "what can I do for YOU" questions are the difference between becoming a manager and remaining a cook.

I used to be all for giving FF workers a raise, until I woke up and realized that they're simply shopping out of other people's pockets.

I cannot support that. I used to be like that until I looked at it from a CEO's POV. I am not going to just give people a raise, so I don't expect them to.

Let us know when you are a big boy and are in an overpaid CEO article one day.

Anyway, its just frustrated millennials.