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ivwshane

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I don't think that conservatives by and large have a problem paying taxes or in submitting to government's reasonable authority. Our problem is when government wants more than we think is government's due, either in money or in power. We accept government's right to set speed limits; we do not accept government's right to set sugary soda size limits. We accept that government is due a tithe, the same as the church; we do not accept that government is due double or triple the tithe so that it can hand out "free" goodies. We accept that government should set a minimum wage to control how deeply in poverty is someone who works at a low value job; we do not accept that government should set a minimum wage to establish a middle class lifestyle for every job.

Frankly I'm not seeing the contradiction here.

$9-$15 is enough for middle class lifestyle? Lol!
 

Jadow

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fucking stupid, I'd fire anyone who walked out. The are total.ly replaceable cogs.
 

cubby1223

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And that is exactly why this country is where it is at today, because we see those below us as some "trained monkey" that is a drain on our resources and must be eliminated or replaced by something more efficient and less costly as long as that trained monkey isn't me.

I hope you don't own a refrigerator, you are still supporting your local iceperson. Please I hope you are not a hypocrite, please tell me you own an ice box. And I hope you ring the operator to make every phone call for you, and certainly stay away from text. And that evil email taking away work from your personperson (I know how to properly communicate in this new PC world! Yay me!), must never use that service.

Sure hope all your food was farmed with hand-tools, not farmed using tractors and other machinery. You don't want to be a hypocrite. I don't want you to be a hypocrite. Please confirm to everyone you are not a hypocrite, you would never allow technology to replace someone's job.

Exactly. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I don't look down upon those less fortunate than me but apparently the so called Christians in this thread does.
These are fellow Americans, you would think, we as a country would put our fellow Americans before profits. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case.

I don't know what's scarier, the size of your ego, or it's disconnect from reality?
 

buckshot24

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Lol! Please post what I quoted (as in what you wrote) when I responded with the romans quote.

And then ask yourself what the fuck this response has to do with it.
Why don't you just make your point explicitly?

In any case the quote from Romans isn't saying that Christians need to fall over backwards in support of any and every governmental program, institution or proposed governmental assistance plan. You're taking this passage out of context and even in doing so you're mis-applying it to a situation it has nothing to say about.

Also I take it you're not Christian, why don't you leave Christian theology to the Christians?
 

Matt1970

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These people don't underatnd that they are putting their own jobs at risk. The people that actually do go out and bust their asses to make twice minimum wage are going to start thinking "Why am I going out and busting my ass in the elements when I could just sit inside the AC at the golden arches waiting for Ding Fries are Done!"
 

ivwshane

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I hope you don't own a refrigerator, you are still supporting your local iceperson. Please I hope you are not a hypocrite, please tell me you own an ice box. And I hope you ring the operator to make every phone call for you, and certainly stay away from text. And that evil email taking away work from your personperson (I know how to properly communicate in this new PC world! Yay me!), must never use that service.

Sure hope all your food was farmed with hand-tools, not farmed using tractors and other machinery. You don't want to be a hypocrite. I don't want you to be a hypocrite. Please confirm to everyone you are not a hypocrite, you would never allow technology to replace someone's job.



I don't know what's scarier, the size of your ego, or it's disconnect from reality?

What's scarier is you think you are being smart when you post straw man after straw man arguments like you just did with the poster you quoted.
 

ivwshane

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Why don't you just make your point explicitly?

In any case the quote from Romans isn't saying that Christians need to fall over backwards in support of any and every governmental program, institution or proposed governmental assistance plan. You're taking this passage out of context and even in doing so you're mis-applying it to a situation it has nothing to say about.

Also I take it you're not Christian, why don't you leave Christian theology to the Christians?

God your posts are funny.How about you create your own website with a message board and you can be the moderator and make your own rules about what people can post.

Leave Christian theology to the Christians? Lol, who exactly would that be? It certainly isn't you and it certainly isn't rob.
 

ch33zw1z

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lol, surprise suprise, a P+N thread about minimum wage ends up Christian versus Atheist. With the usual Christians leading the charge.

Biblical verses are open to interpretation, leave the theology to which version of Christianity exactly....omg there's too many to pick just one!
 

Orignal Earl

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I see mentioned several times in this thread, that these jobs were never meant to be able to support some one
Wouldn't it be more honest to say that when these companies got started, a person could afford to buy a home and raise a family on the wages?

 

Orignal Earl

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No, minimum wage was never meant to support a family. It was meant to ensure teens and young adults didn't work for slave wages.

That may be, but the people who worked at Mcdonalds and Walmart could afford to raise a family and buy a home
It looks to me that the min wage was established in different countries for different reasons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_minimum_wage

It established a 'living wage' for a man, his wife and two children to "live in frugal comfort".
-Oz
 

Londo_Jowo

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Good point.

And it's not true they aren't asking for government help. They are asking for a doubling of the minimum wage, whcih is something only the government can do.

I don't have a problem with them trying to get a better shake (no pun intended). I have a problem with the voice of entitelement i'm hearing. "Living wage" being a right for example.

One of our principles is the pursuit of happiness, we don't guarantee it.

Just as I noticed yesterday in Houston, this is all about the unions pushing for new members. No wonder they're pushing for $15/hr, the unions need to be able to get their slice of the pie.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...8db102-1074-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html

The Service Employees International Union, which represents more than 2 million workers in health care, janitorial and other industries, has been providing financial support and training for local organizers in the fast-food strikes around the country.
 

buckshot24

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What's scarier is you think you are being smart when you post straw man after straw man arguments like you just did with the poster you quoted.
Do you know what a strawman is? You're horrible at biblical interpretation and you're horrible in spotting logical fallacies.
 

buckshot24

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Leave Christian theology to the Christians? Lol, who exactly would that be? It certainly isn't you and it certainly isn't rob.
You're deciding who is Christian now? Based on your stupid interpretation of Paul? This is why you should leave it to people who he was writing to to interpret what he meant. This is just a suggestion.
 

buckshot24

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No, minimum wage was never meant to support a family. It was meant to ensure teens and young adults didn't work for slave wages.
It was also meant to keep people who aren't productive enough to warrant the minimum wage to not have a job.
 
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