Oh, and werepossum, is just a Government flunky. The more the better, as far as he is concerned.
-John
-John
Well it should be raised to support a family of four!! At least that's what everyone who for increasing the minimum wage has said! Well it's what everyone here on AT has said it should be raised to!
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Btw, how much would the hourly rate be to support a family of four?
And by the way, before most of the usual dummies even say the predictable, when I drive around I notice that better quality restaurants than fast food have HELP WANTED signs up all the friggen time. So the predictable excuse doesn't fly either.
It would be near $21/hr minimum required to raise a family of 4 on just 1 salary.
And truth be told many college graduates don't even make that much day 1 outside of college on a career job.
What worked for you doesn't work for everyone else because its decades old advice thats why. When you've worked in McDonalds in 2013 let me know how you valiantly climbed your way out of that dead end job. When you go to apply as a hotel busboy and it gets 1,000 applications in 24 hours, hah. You just don't know I guess. You haven't actually looked at the situation in a long time. Not that I'm stuck there myself, I just know talented, smart people who work there and its not really their fault they are stuck there.
$9-$15 is enough for middle class lifestyle? Lol!
What worked for you doesn't work for everyone else because its decades old advice thats why. When you've worked in McDonalds in 2013 let me know how you valiantly climbed your way out of that dead end job. When you go to apply as a hotel busboy and it gets 1,000 applications in 24 hours, hah. You just don't know I guess. You haven't actually looked at the situation in a long time. Not that I'm stuck there myself, I just know talented, smart people who work there and its not really their fault they are stuck there.
It would be near $21/hr minimum required to raise a family of 4 on just 1 salary.
And truth be told many college graduates don't even make that much day 1 outside of college on a career job.
~ $42K per year before taxes for 1 hubby, 1 wife, and 2 kids? That would be tight, even at the low cost of living area around here.
Wow maybe, just maybe... you shouldn't make the choice to pump out a bunch of kids when you're on a single income of $42k per year.
~ $42K per year before taxes for 1 hubby, 1 wife, and 2 kids? That would be tight, even at the low cost of living area around here.
So do we want fast food wages to equate that of a college engineer graduate now?
PLC = Programmable Logic Controllers
Bullshit on almost all counts. Millennials are the stupidest American generation so far and "work harder" is laughable.
Just a FYI but it's very difficult to get a programming job in PLC's or automation without an EE degree now. Many companies simply won't look at you regardless of your experience. I've seen this time and time again (and have experienced it as my interviewers have told me this outright).
Technicians (changes and troubleshooting), not so much but if you're doing full programming, the times are changing (sadly).
Left wing progressive nutjobs?In my opinion anyone that thinks fast food workers should be paid more should buy a fast food franchise and pay them whatever they want.
Good luck seeing a bunch of left wing progressive nutjobs actually buying their own business.
It would be near $21/hr minimum required to raise a family of 4 on just 1 salary.
And truth be told many college graduates don't even make that much day 1 outside of college on a career job.
Oh, believe me I know very well. Even though some of the new engineers that have been hired recently can program the PLC, their logic needs modification to work properly. I spend several hours a week working with field service technicians/engineers troubleshooting and correcting the logic. Though this really isn't a new problem as I used to correct logic when I was in the field. Some projects I worked on have as much as 60% of my logic to make the equipment perform per the contract,
Smallish world I guess, I'm in the controls engineering field as well though I am primarily in the software side. I do material handling systems. Most of our systems are 'custom' using OPTO-22 boards connected to a PA-Mux bus and driven by custom software. We do have some software which uses OPC to directly communicate with AB PLCs.
Most of what I've seen is that a true controls engineer at a senior level makes around $100k, and at that level needs an EE.
But, I would differ on the path to that position. Many start out as technicians, with an AA, and if they are good and in the right place at the right time they can advance to mid-level ranks. At that point, they have the direct experience with equipment and, if they get that BSEE, they'll move up to those senior ranks quickly. Of course, controls technicians / installers do what amounts to back-breaking work.
The 31k is a lot more comparable to a controls technician with possibly an AA and just starting out.
That's patently ridiculous though - you have to have an AA and a budding technical career to make a Wendy's clerks salary?
That depends on the location.
In other words 21 dollars an hour is chump change in many major metro areas like SF, NYC, DC etc. You'd probably have to raise it to at least 30 or more dollars an hour for it to be a viable "living wage" for someone raising a family of four as the sole provider.
Then again that much of rise for minimum skilled jobs wouldn't be justifiable economically speaking and thus exposes the flaws in those who seek to artificially raise the government's arbitrarily established minimum wage law.