Fast Food walkout - Nationwide

[Londo_Jowo]

no items that overlap != very close in prices on all the items

Now do you understand how you were completely wrong?

So what's the percentage of overlap items are there? The vast majority of Costco's sale are bulk items hence the name Costco Wholesale.

Here's an article you need to read so you can understand why Costco can afford to pay their workers more than Walmart.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/why-walmart-will-never-pay-like-costco.html

What do you see? Costco has a tiny number of SKUs in a huge store -- and consequently, has half as many employees per square foot of store. Their model is less labor intensive, which is to say, it has higher labor productivity. Which makes it unsurprising that they pay their employees more.

 

[nehalem256]

Very telling read from CNN this morning:

Young woman makes 7.25/hr at Mickey Ds, 24 years old, 3 kids and cannot afford daycare so her mom (instead of the kids father(s)) babysits for her as she works midnights. She laments that as a "single parent", she cannot afford daycare, so become a baby factory and make your employer pick up the tab? Why aren't we telling these irresponsible "mothers" to stop screwing and making babies they darn well know they can't afford? Is this "progress"?

This kinda stuff makes you want to abolish gov assistance if parents are laying on their backs constantly, and want their employers or the gov to pick up the tab for sorry and absent fathers.

What you are describing is called "hating women".

As for the kids father(s). How do you know they are not in prison? If she even knows who they are

 

[nehalem256]

So what's the percentage of overlap items are there? The vast majority of Costco's sale are bulk items hence the name Costco Wholesale.

Here's an article you need to read so you can understand why Costco can afford to pay their workers more than Walmart.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-27/why-walmart-will-never-pay-like-costco.html

Thanks, I always assumed that Walmart and Costco had a different business model, and it was not just a case of Walmart hatin' on their workers.

 

[Retro Rob]

What you are describing is called "hating women".

As for the kids father(s). How do you know they are not in prison? If she even knows who they are

Likely the father is just with some other woman. You're taking to a guy who grew up in Detroit, and stories like these come a dime a dozen there.

If you're 24 with 3 kids, you probably started about 16, and you couldn't afford them then, but you recklessly have sex and pop more babies out (knowing you can't afford them), then have the audacity to ask for a hand out from the government and your employer?!?

If that's "hating women", being against laziness and irresponsibility, then so be it.

 

[moonbogg]

I worked at burger king with friends as a starter job in high school. Instead of expecting a raise I was just silly about it and looked toward a little more education. Not a lot or anything, just something to set myself apart from my burger flipping friends.
I know a guy who went to a 9 month training program to become a machinist. He got a starting job that pays $15.00/hr. Why can't fast food twerps do that? This walk out stuff is a load of garbage.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

You know the thread is a winnar when Nehalem gets someone to agree with him on women.

 

[Doppel]

Just went for a drive at lunch and saw tons of picketers.

Did I say tons? I meant zero.

 

[Genx87]

Just went for a drive at lunch and saw tons of picketers.

Did I say tons? I meant zero.

Any that are out are probably hired anyways, and at min wage.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-september-20-2010/working-stiffed

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No one protesting at the Sonic across the road, guess I'll go get a #3 large combo with tater tots and diet cherry limeade in 30 minutes.

 

[Doppel]

No one protesting at the Sonic across the road, guess I'll go get a #3 large combo with tater tots and diet cherry limeade in 30 minutes.

Get a banana shake. The sonic banana shake pwns me.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Get a banana shake. The sonic banana shake pwns me.

Ok, you sold me.

 

[SaurusX]

Get a banana shake. The sonic banana shake pwns me.

They're great, but they'll give you an anurism trying to drink it through the straw.

 

[Doppel]

Ok, you sold me.

Last time I got one I finished it and literally drove back and got another immediately after. I am a banana whore, though. I just love them, but it is a great shake.

 

[BoberFett]

What amazing is that 3.5% profit margin. People demonize "evil companies" for their "record profits" (that's a popular phrase these days) but margins are as slim as ever. Some industries have high margins, but record profits are due to record revenues, not massive profit margins.

Of course, trying to get jealous poor people to understand the concept of percentages and profit margins is a futile effort.

 

[slayernine]

Getting paid well is not a right. It is an exchange of your time for money and the rate of exchange is governed by the value of that time. If you have spent time learning a trade or other business skill you can demand a fair wage. I'm sick of this living wage bullshit, people should use the resources available to them to become educated or learn a useful skill.

Nobody is entitle to have a good job and a good wage, you need to earn that. If wages are too low and there is a lack of workers available the market will respond and has in the past with increased wages. I don't ask to be paid more than I am worth to my employer. Flipping burgers or stocking shelves at walmart shouldn't be a well paid position.

The real reason I feel this way is simple, why should some uneducated worker doing a simple task get paid similar to someone who has taken the time and money to get an education or training? The answer is simple, they shouldn't. If people want to make more money they should petition the government for training and education programs and shut up about increasing minimum wages and full time hours.

 

[WackyDan]

Should people be allowed to set prices for their labor or not?

They set their price by getting a new job, one that pays better.

For fucks sake... if you are in your late 20's working at McDonald's and expecting a "living wage" you are the definition of fucking failure.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Last time I got one I finished it and literally drove back and got another immediately after. I am a banana whore, though. I just love them, but it is a great shake.

You are right, this banana shake is to die for.......thanks for the suggestion.

 

[waggy]

Just went for a drive at lunch and saw tons of picketers.

Did I say tons? I meant zero.

same. not one place had anyone out front.

 

[Retro Rob]

Getting paid well is not a right. It is an exchange of your time for money and the rate of exchange is governed by the value of that time. If you have spent time learning a trade or other business skill you can demand a fair wage. I'm sick of this living wage bullshit, people should use the resources available to them to become educated or learn a useful skill.

Nobody is entitle to have a good job and a good wage, you need to earn that. If wages are too low and there is a lack of workers available the market will respond and has in the past with increased wages. I don't ask to be paid more than I am worth to my employer. Flipping burgers or stocking shelves at walmart shouldn't be a well paid position.

The real reason I feel this way is simple, why should some uneducated worker doing a simple task get paid similar to someone who has taken the time and money to get an education or training? The answer is simple, they shouldn't. If people want to make more money they should petition the government for training and education programs and shut up about increasing minimum wages and full time hours.

Very well said.

 

[slayernine]

They set their price by getting a new job, one that pays better.

For fucks sake... if you are in your late 20's working at McDonald's and expecting a "living wage" you are the definition of fucking failure.

The real problem is the glut of unmotivated workers that are too happy with minimum wage to do anything about it other than complain that they don't get paid as well as their buddy who found a better job. Society has no place proping up people who are unwilling to do anything to help themself.

It's like the man who says "I hope I get a raise this year, I could really use it". Then proceeds to put forth mediorce effort at his job the rest of the year and when he doesn't get a raise he gets all P.O'd about it.

 

[Retro Rob]

Eating lunch at Hardee's, business as usual. They're even training a new person.

Smart people know a job is really a job, and waking out is probably the single most stupidest thing any adult can do.

Many are going to college and such while being temporarily employed at these places. I applaud the mature adults who are working there and realize that they're working to leave.

 

[Chiropteran]

Minimum wage jobs are NOT government subsidized.

Wrong, most are. 80% of Walmart employees are, for example.

Poor life decisions by people who are only qualified to work minimum wage jobs are government subsidized.

That just explains the "WHY". I don't care what the "WHY" is, the fact is most min wage workers are indeed being government subsidized.

There's a big difference. Your refusal to admit that does not make it untrue.

It is true, you are just trying to argue that the REASON it is true is somehow significant. It's not. It doesn't matter WHY 80% of Walmart's workforce is on government assistance. I didn't claim anything about the WHY, I just said that they were on government assistance. And they are.

 

[Chiropteran]

So what's the percentage of overlap items are there? The vast majority of Costco's sale are bulk items hence the name Costco Wholesale.

Lets revisit the list I already posted:

appliances, furniture, clothing, toys, books, computers, other electronics, jewelry, food, alcohol, soda, water, jewelry, or luggage

11/14 types of items are sold singular quantities, not bulk. That means only 22% of the types of things sold at Costco are potentially bulk. You have a really funny definition of "vast majority".

Besides that, you claimed that Costco and Walmart don't compete with each other. It's an idiotic thing to say. If I want to buy food, the fact that Costco food is sold in larger bulk packages is hardly a deciding factor. I can compare the cost of buying equal quantities from each store and make a decision. They clearly compete! There may be difference in business practices behind the curtains, but the end result for a customer is very comparable!

If a box of cereal at Walmart is $3 and a bulk double box of cereal is $5.50 at Costco, I can compare and find that Costco is cheaper by $.25 per box. OMG, I did the impossible and compared a bulk item to a non-bulk item!

Here's an article you need to read so you can understand why Costco can afford to pay their workers more than Walmart.

I'm aware, and it's an awesome thing that Costco has such an efficient system going on. What exactly is the point you are trying to make? Costco is run better than Walmart? I wouldn't disagree. Would Walmart crash and burn if it tried to pay it's employees the same as Costco? I can only dream.

 

[slayernine]

The real important number that isn't on this chart is the number of employees per store. Though Costco may pay better, they employee less people to move X amount of goods through their supply chain and stores.

Costco only has roughly 358 employees per store it operates where Walmart has 477 per store. So even though Walmart gets a lot of flack for paying crap wages it sure does provide a heck of a lot of jobs compared to companies like Costco who have less employees that are paid better. Perhaps Costco has more effective and efficient employees that work harder for that higher wage and Costco may have higher expectations of them. Also they likely have a lot more skilled workers at Costco, they employ many forklift drivers at their stores and that is a trained skill you can put on a resume. You can't just grab a guy off the street and safely operate a fork lift in a store full of customers. Well then again you could but you would have some PR issues and a stack of lawsuits.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

If you multiply Costco's membership fee (basic fee of $55) by the number of members (36.5 million) and then divide by the number of employees it comes to $12,500 per employee. These fees would represent $6/hr for the average employee and makes it where they can afford to pay their employees a much higher wage.