fastest car for 10-12k.....

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OrganizedChaos

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Originally posted by: jcovercash
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: jcovercash
Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
a 2k ten year old miatia
with a 10k blown/stroked 351w under the hood

just a thought

You can't find a decent Miata that cheap... I haven't found any below 4k and those were junk. I have been looking for one to drop a 5.0 into with a KenneBell Blower....


That being said get a Fox Body mustang, and some mods, and have change to spare! Youll have a fast car that sounds badass too!

yeah miatas are worth their weight in crack around here too. Most 94s are $6k+ and uaually ++ which is insane. You can find 99s for the same price people are asking for 94-97s. I'm hoping with winter prices will drop and the nice $4k kind pop up more often.


Yea I have been looking for one with a blown motor and shredded top. Since the one I am building as a company car is only going to be a fair weather vehicle I dont need the top, just the roll bars. Should be a fun little ride!

Only ones I can find even with 200k miles are freaking 5K.... Sigh.... Maybe one day Ill get to build on it, till then my 4000 lb 500hp mustang will have to do..... I just think 500+rwhp in a 2300lb car would be alot more fun

there not all that expensive up here

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/car/214978831.html
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: railer
Mid 5's 0-60 and anywhere in the 13's 1/4 is fast to me, btw.
That for $10k and not a Camaro/Mustang? '98-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (if and only if you can find one in previously-unmodded good condition and low miles)
Or... 2002-2003 Subaru WRX with salvage title but properly rebuilt/restored to like new.
 

Rubycon

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I've never understood the obsession with fast cars. Even the cheapest ones can reach the speed limit right?

Seems to me the extra just wastes a lot of fuel.

:laugh:
 

thedarkwolf

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: railer
Mid 5's 0-60 and anywhere in the 13's 1/4 is fast to me, btw.
That for $10k and not a Camaro/Mustang? '98-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (if and only if you can find one in previously-unmodded good condition and low miles)
Or... 2002-2003 Subaru WRX with salvage title but properly rebuilt/restored to like new.

Only car that you mentioned that will do 13s stock is the camaro. Mustangs are low 14s, not sure what the DSMs will run stock but I doubt its better then a mid 14s if they don't blow up going down the track, and WRXs are high 14s low 15s.
 

CombatChuk

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Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
If you want pure speed that's in that price range, here's the answer...

Text

With enough skills you can do the quarter mile in the mid 9s...

zx14 pfft... no thanks give me the lighter quicker ZX10R or the GSXr1000..
the 1000s are pure sportbikes capable of much quicker accereration and fantastic cornering.. the Busa and the 12 and the 14 all suffer except for at the dragstrip.. and thats not what bikes are all about..

btw.. Stock Ive watched 1000s stomp a mudhole in Busas and 12s.. they re too heavy they are primarily designed as a super sport cruiser for long hauls..
they are NOT in the sportbike class.


...but i thought sport bikes are supposed to be long (2ft swingarm extension), dropped to to the ground and blingging with 80lbs of chrome? :roll:

I maintain my opinion that Busas are for posers...

agreed. they're for straight line speed only and not so much for cornering (ie no skill). They're cruisers and not designed for the track. Plus lamers 'customise' them resulting in monstrosities like the following: lamer

truly a mess. The stock busa looks fugly, too. If I was going to go for the 1300/1400 sports tourer, it'd have to be the ZZR1400 every time.

You guys make the Busa/ZX-14 sound like they handle like a 900lb crusier. The Dry weight of a zx14 is only 50-60 more than the current Superbikes. They also happen to be more comfortable as well. They can take the corners real good as well.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Porsche 944/(968 if you are willing to wrench, a lot)
He said FAST. And the 968 is more reliable than the 944 (easier to work on too).

I love the 944 series, but a basic 944 (non-turbo) runs a mid 8-second 0-60 time. A Civic EX will blow it out of the water. A 968 might be in the high 6's. And if you slip the sh*t out of the clutch to keep the engine in boost, the best that even a turbo will manage is low 5's (with the agonizing 4-second 0-25 before boost kicks in).

Do not ever buy any car in the 944 family for speed. They're built so that they don't have to slow down to go through corners, but on the straights they are outgunned by a lot of cars.

ZV
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Porsche 944/(968 if you are willing to wrench, a lot)
He said FAST. And the 968 is more reliable than the 944 (easier to work on too).

I love the 944 series, but a basic 944 (non-turbo) runs a mid 8-second 0-60 time. A Civic EX will blow it out of the water. A 968 might be in the high 6's. And if you slip the sh*t out of the clutch to keep the engine in boost, the best that even a turbo will manage is low 5's (with the agonizing 4-second 0-25 before boost kicks in).

Do not ever buy any car in the 944 family for speed. They're built so that they don't have to slow down to go through corners, but on the straights they are outgunned by a lot of cars.

ZV

i know that the 968 is more reliable, but look at the actual 968's in the 10-12k range. they arent nearly as good as the 10-12k range 952's
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Most cars for 10-12k are fast enough to reach the speed limit in all 50 states. What more do you want from your car? Trust me friend, it's not worth paying extra money for a car with higher top-end speed unless you're a NASCAR driver.

Especially when gas prices are continuing to rise. (no worries, the prices are only low because elections are near and school is back in session)
Yup, underpowerd cars that have trouble maintaining speed uphill are fun!

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Porsche 944/(968 if you are willing to wrench, a lot)
He said FAST. And the 968 is more reliable than the 944 (easier to work on too).

I love the 944 series, but a basic 944 (non-turbo) runs a mid 8-second 0-60 time. A Civic EX will blow it out of the water. A 968 might be in the high 6's. And if you slip the sh*t out of the clutch to keep the engine in boost, the best that even a turbo will manage is low 5's (with the agonizing 4-second 0-25 before boost kicks in).

Do not ever buy any car in the 944 family for speed. They're built so that they don't have to slow down to go through corners, but on the straights they are outgunned by a lot of cars.

ZV
i know that the 968 is more reliable, but look at the actual 968's in the 10-12k range. they arent nearly as good as the 10-12k range 952's
952?

I'll assume you meant 951. And I would NEVER recommend a 951 as an only car. 20 years old, with equally old turbo technology. I've put 10,000 miles on mine in the last year. Not counting gasoline or insurance, the car has cost me around $1/mile in upkeep. (Probably around $1.25/mile in overall cost to own.) And I bought one that checked out great with a mechanic. I just ended up with the clutch and t-belt both in the same year. That, and the inevitable non-necessary but chosen anyway modifications...

ZV
 

palindrome

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Stick with a 300ZX-TT from 1990-1995 (1996's are VERY tough to mod due to emissions). Purchase one with a body and interior in good condition for cheap maybe 3-4K. Purchase a JDM motor for like 4-5 grand, spend the rest on the swap. Easy 400HP car for 12k. www.zcar.com is your friend.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: palindrome
Stick with a 300ZX-TT from 1990-1995 (1996's are VERY tough to mod due to emissions). Purchase one with a body and interior in good condition for cheap maybe 3-4K. Purchase a JDM motor for like 4-5 grand, spend the rest on the swap. Easy 400HP car for 12k. www.zcar.com is your friend.

why a 300z if you are just gunna swap the motor?

the 240 is lighter, and thusly can be made faster.

and now we are talkin about a first car, and swapin motors.

why not just buy a damn 10-12k car.

a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable
 

thedarkwolf

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: palindrome
Stick with a 300ZX-TT from 1990-1995 (1996's are VERY tough to mod due to emissions). Purchase one with a body and interior in good condition for cheap maybe 3-4K. Purchase a JDM motor for like 4-5 grand, spend the rest on the swap. Easy 400HP car for 12k. www.zcar.com is your friend.

why a 300z if you are just gunna swap the motor?

the 240 is lighter, and thusly can be made faster.

and now we are talkin about a first car, and swapin motors.

why not just buy a damn 10-12k car.

a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable

Nice looking cars but fwd
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: palindrome
Stick with a 300ZX-TT from 1990-1995 (1996's are VERY tough to mod due to emissions). Purchase one with a body and interior in good condition for cheap maybe 3-4K. Purchase a JDM motor for like 4-5 grand, spend the rest on the swap. Easy 400HP car for 12k. www.zcar.com is your friend.

why a 300z if you are just gunna swap the motor?

the 240 is lighter, and thusly can be made faster.

and now we are talkin about a first car, and swapin motors.

why not just buy a damn 10-12k car.

a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable

Nice looking cars but fwd

get a rear subframe brace
steering brace
front brace
and the car is faster than balls.
 

thedarkwolf

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: palindrome
Stick with a 300ZX-TT from 1990-1995 (1996's are VERY tough to mod due to emissions). Purchase one with a body and interior in good condition for cheap maybe 3-4K. Purchase a JDM motor for like 4-5 grand, spend the rest on the swap. Easy 400HP car for 12k. www.zcar.com is your friend.

why a 300z if you are just gunna swap the motor?

the 240 is lighter, and thusly can be made faster.

and now we are talkin about a first car, and swapin motors.

why not just buy a damn 10-12k car.

a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable

Nice looking cars but fwd

get a rear subframe brace
steering brace
front brace
and the car is faster than balls.

I wouldn't go that far. I see 14.3-15 sec 1/4 mile times in what few reviews I can find so its fast but not faster then balls . All those things still don't send the power to the rear wheels. Some people don't mind that and actually prefer it but if I am going for a performance car its going to be RWD or AWD.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable
What's the 30-60 time? 60-80?

(a stock 951S is 3.5 seconds 30-60 and 3.3 seconds 60-80, my previous comment about 0-25 mph time was hyperbole to illustrate how the lag feels in 1st.) The specs I could find for the Viggen show around a 4.2 second 60-80 time.

Once at speed, there's not much that can pull on my 951, granted it's tweaked a little and geared such that 80mph is into full boost in 5th gear. Humbled in stoplight sprints by Hondas though.

ZV
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
a viggen is a great choice, its sexy, it will pull on ANYTHING in the 30-60 range (including porsches) and its sooo comfortable
What's the 30-60 time? 60-80?

(a stock 951S is 3.5 seconds 30-60 and 3.3 seconds 60-80, my previous comment about 0-25 mph time was hyperbole to illustrate how the lag feels in 1st.) The specs I could find for the Viggen show around a 4.2 second 60-80 time.

Once at speed, there's not much that can pull on my 951, granted it's tweaked a little and geared such that 80mph is into full boost in 5th gear. Humbled in stoplight sprints by Hondas though.

ZV

i dont know the Viggens off hand, but i could pull out the Clarkson quote on the 9-5

"it will accelerate from 40-70mph faster than a porsche 911 turbo"

and thats a larger car.

Viggens are 2nd gear rockets, they are the ultimate highway cruiser.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
I've never understood the obsession with fast cars. Even the cheapest ones can reach the speed limit right?

Seems to me the extra just wastes a lot of fuel.

:laugh:

It's not the speed limit that counts, it's how fast you get there.

But IMHO cornering >>>> acceleration.
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

the GN is a nice car, however there is a better 1987 Trans-Am that is less known, faster, has a higher top speed, and has the same damn engine.

and its cheaper to boot.

Actually the turbo V6 was available in the '89 Trans Am only. They made a hair over 1500 of them, and examples in good condition fetch comparable prices to the GN (maybe slightly less) and are very hard to find for sale. That said, I'd rather have an '89 TTA than a GN, although both are awesome cars.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

the GN is a nice car, however there is a better 1987 Trans-Am that is less known, faster, has a higher top speed, and has the same damn engine.

and its cheaper to boot.

Actually the turbo V6 was available in the '89 Trans Am only. They made a hair over 1500 of them, and examples in good condition fetch comparable prices to the GN (maybe slightly less) and are very hard to find for sale. That said, I'd rather have an '89 TTA than a GN, although both are awesome cars.

yea, yea yea, i knew what i was talkin about, but didnt know the year

if i ever have money burning a hole in my pocket, i will buy both.

both will sound like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Raozug7bKo&mode=related&search=
 
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