Fastest DVD Ripping?

[mjreddy]

I have a Samsung SH-S182M DVD Burner, specs claim a 16X read rate for DVD-ROMs

Burner's Specs

I am ripping all my DVDs (1:1 copies) to my HDD for a media server and want to do it FAST since I have so many DVDs to do, a full DVD right now is taking about 16-20 minutes. I am ripping to a 400GB 7200.10 Seagate SATA2 drive. My computers specs:

Intel C2D E6400
Asus P5B deluxe
2GB DDR2 PC6400 Corsair RAM
400GB 7200.9 Seagate SATA2 (boot drive)
400GB 7200.10 Seagate SATA2 (storage drive)
Samsung SH-S182M DVD Burner
EVGA 6200 Vid card

When I do the rips, my computer is hardly using any of its power, I only see 5-10% processor usage. How can I make these rips faster? Any settings I can change? Suggestions for different optical drive for ripping? As always, all help is appreciated!

 

[dBTelos]

I don't know of anyway of speeding up ripping. Maybe you could check the settings for the software you're using, though.

 

[Rubycon]

It's the ripper for sure. Many drives are rip locked and firmwares can be pushed to remove the locks. Some drives when unlocked will rip fast enough to load your cpu fully especially if you're compressing DVD9 titles.

 

[mjreddy]

Why isn't the Drive at least reading/ripping anywhere near its 16X limit?

 

[dBTelos]

MS Dawn just said, because it's "locked".

Many drives are rip locked and firmwares can be pushed to remove the locks.

Ok

 

[mjreddy]

True, well, how can I find out if that is the case with my drive and how can I "push" my firmware to remove this lock?

 

[dBTelos]

Maybe a firmware update?

 

[Rubycon]

Text

Be warned - a bad firmware flash WILL render your drive a useless box that will work keep papers from flapping around in a force 8 breeze.

 

[dBTelos]

Paper weight.... yay!

 

[mshan]

http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=61

The current Lite-On dvd burners are supposed to be quite good rippers and they're often under $30 shipped at Newegg.com.

 

[stockriderman]

I have a 1 year old benq burner. It records at 7-11x on a 16x dvdr's bummer

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: mjreddy
Why isn't the Drive at least reading/ripping anywhere near its 16X limit?

"Optical disc recording technologies"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_recording_technologies

"Ripping"
Ripping speed
The speed at which a CD or DVD can be ripped is often expressed as a multiplier, such as 12X (means 12 times faster than standard playing speed). Important in estimating ripping speeds are:

the media-player's speed: a CD has a maximum rotation speed (so it does not break due to rotational forces) and the media players get closer and closer to that limit (e.g., a player that can read a CD at 60x the normal speed). It is also important where the laserhead is. It starts reading closest to the center (lowest bitrate for a given rotation speed) and goes to the border of the CD (highest bitrate)
the interface between the player and the encoding device: this might be extremely fast (SCSI) to very slow (USB 1.1 or even over an Ethernet network)
the encoding device (in most cases a PC) will encode the digital input to a compressed format. This is a highly CPU-intensive task, so various factors such as the CPU's clock speed, architecture, and design affect encoding speed.
the encoding algorithm/quality: WMA encoding is generally faster than MP3, 64 kbit/s encoding might be faster/slower than 192 kbit/s
the compressed file is then written to a disk. Again this might be very fast (SCSI or FireWire) or rather slow (over 10 Mbit/s Ethernet or to a flash card)
Physical condition of the original media and read errors may affect ripping speed negatively by requiring repeated reads, or its accuracy, by ignoring read errors upon the user's request.
Some rippers, like Exact Audio Copy, will rip multiple times and compare the result to make sure that the ripped file is accurate. This slows down the ripping but will make sure that the output is an accurate copy, and let the user know if the output has any faults.
The combination of these elements will define what the maximum ripping speed is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping

p.s. SATA drives are the way to go if you're a savvy-speed freak with optical technology. it will be interesting to see how SCSI DVD-RW drives go, and perhaps the possible implementation of Blue Ray technology creation at the finger tips of home users, modestly speaking in terms of technology available from retailers at a point in time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ray

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: fire400

Originally posted by: mjreddy
Why isn't the Drive at least reading/ripping anywhere near its 16X limit?

"Optical disc recording technologies"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_recording_technologies

"Ripping"
Ripping speed
The speed at which a CD or DVD can be ripped is often expressed as a multiplier, such as 12X (means 12 times faster than standard playing speed). Important in estimating ripping speeds are:

the media-player's speed: a CD has a maximum rotation speed (so it does not break due to rotational forces) and the media players get closer and closer to that limit (e.g., a player that can read a CD at 60x the normal speed). It is also important where the laserhead is. It starts reading closest to the center (lowest bitrate for a given rotation speed) and goes to the border of the CD (highest bitrate)
the interface between the player and the encoding device: this might be extremely fast (SCSI) to very slow (USB 1.1 or even over an Ethernet network)
the encoding device (in most cases a PC) will encode the digital input to a compressed format. This is a highly CPU-intensive task, so various factors such as the CPU's clock speed, architecture, and design affect encoding speed.
the encoding algorithm/quality: WMA encoding is generally faster than MP3, 64 kbit/s encoding might be faster/slower than 192 kbit/s
the compressed file is then written to a disk. Again this might be very fast (SCSI or FireWire) or rather slow (over 10 Mbit/s Ethernet or to a flash card)
Physical condition of the original media and read errors may affect ripping speed negatively by requiring repeated reads, or its accuracy, by ignoring read errors upon the user's request.
Some rippers, like Exact Audio Copy, will rip multiple times and compare the result to make sure that the ripped file is accurate. This slows down the ripping but will make sure that the output is an accurate copy, and let the user know if the output has any faults.
The combination of these elements will define what the maximum ripping speed is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripping

p.s. SATA drives are the way to go if you're a savvy-speed freak with optical technology. it will be interesting to see how SCSI DVD-RW drives go, and perhaps the possible implementation of Blue Ray technology creation at the finger tips of home users, modestly speaking in terms of technology available from retailers at a point in time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_ray

And NONE of those "factors" are coming into play in the real world when the firmware in the drive is intentionally crippled to reduce ripping speed.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: mjreddy
I have a Samsung SH-S182M DVD Burner, specs claim a 16X read rate for DVD-ROMs

Burner's Specs

I am ripping all my DVDs (1:1 copies) to my HDD for a media server and want to do it FAST since I have so many DVDs to do, a full DVD right now is taking about 16-20 minutes. I am ripping to a 400GB 7200.10 Seagate SATA2 drive. My computers specs:

Intel C2D E6400
Asus P5B deluxe
2GB DDR2 PC6400 Corsair RAM
400GB 7200.9 Seagate SATA2 (boot drive)
400GB 7200.10 Seagate SATA2 (storage drive)
Samsung SH-S182M DVD Burner
EVGA 6200 Vid card

When I do the rips, my computer is hardly using any of its power, I only see 5-10% processor usage. How can I make these rips faster? Any settings I can change? Suggestions for different optical drive for ripping? As always, all help is appreciated!

At Full Size You are wasting alot of HD space You would be best off Transcoding them to 4.3 with a good trancoder there is no Visual Quality Degredation, and then you can easily back them up on 4.3 GB Media.........You will be able to put twice the media in a given space and back up your originals.

Elaborate Bytes Clone DVD 2 is the best transcoder out and you cannot tell the difference between the Source, and the transcode....

just a Thought...