Fastest S370 Celeron

[bjc112]

I have a P3 that I would like to replace.. I figure if I can get over 2ghz with a Celeron it should outperform a PIII @ 800mhz.


1400mhz capable of outperforming 800mhz?

 

[bendixG15]

I have a P3 that I would like to replace.. I figure if I can get over 2ghz with a Celeron it should outperform a PIII @ 800mhz

So what are you waiting for ??? .... Do It...

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: bendixG15

I have a P3 that I would like to replace.. I figure if I can get over 2ghz with a Celeron it should outperform a PIII @ 800mhz

So what are you waiting for ??? .... Do It...

There is no way in HELL you can get a socket 370 processor anywhere NEAR 2GHz with air or water cooling. You might need liquid nitrogen and that might not even work. I think the fastest socket 370 PIII or Celeron you can buy is 1.4 GHz. 2GHz would be over a 25% o/c and that is HUGE.

 

[MadRat]

The 1.4GHz P!!!-S probably won't work in the socket, and that was the best P!!! - period.

 

[slash196]

BUY A NEW COMPUTER

 

[bjc112]

I have an 1700+ @ 2.4, this is a backup.

So would the 1.4 celly be faster than the 800 (133) P3?

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: bendixG15

I have a P3 that I would like to replace.. I figure if I can get over 2ghz with a Celeron it should outperform a PIII @ 800mhz

So what are you waiting for ??? .... Do It...

I'm asking.. Not telling..

 

[RadeonGuy]

Since its Intel the number 1 rule that they still think is true is the faster the proc the more performance so yes the s370 would beat a P3 800 mhz

 

[dannybin1742]

yes, its the same core
get a celeron 1.2 and up the fsb to 133, should be doable at default voltage and you will have a nice speedy chip

most your gonna see out of a p3 celeron is 1.6-1.7ghz, check overclockers.com database

 

[Aeria]

q]Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

[/quote]

There is no way in HELL you can get a socket 370 processor anywhere NEAR 2GHz with air or water cooling. You might need liquid nitrogen and that might not even work. I think the fastest socket 370 PIII or Celeron you can buy is 1.4 GHz. 2GHz would be over a 25% o/c and that is HUGE.

[/quote]

My PIII 600 (socket 370) is running fine @ 840MHz, on stock cooling, and thats a 40% o/c
Oh and 1.4GHz -> 2.0GHz = 43% o/c

 

[Spikesoldier]

Originally posted by: Aeria
q]Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

There is no way in HELL you can get a socket 370 processor anywhere NEAR 2GHz with air or water cooling. You might need liquid nitrogen and that might not even work. I think the fastest socket 370 PIII or Celeron you can buy is 1.4 GHz. 2GHz would be over a 25% o/c and that is HUGE.

[/quote]

My PIII 600 (socket 370) is running fine @ 840MHz, on stock cooling, and thats a 40% o/c
Oh and 1.4GHz -> 2.0GHz = 43% o/c
[/quote]

that is different. 300A@450 and the 1.6A@2.4 were 50% overclocks, percentage really doesnt matter.

what the OP meant is that the coppermine/tualatin core would never reach 2GHz conventionally, (if it even could) because of manufacturing process and the fact that the p6 architecture couldnt reach up to 2ghz anyway.

the most these chips would be capable of would probably be around 1.6-1.7GHz, with some almost reaching 2Ghz with extreme cooling.

 

[Auric]

C1100 Tualatin outperforms P1100 Coppermine at default clocks by 10% (same bus, same cache, opimizations in the former). Crank up the bus on the Celeron 1100 or 1200 and it will perform the same or better than all Pentium III branded models except perhaps the larger cache -S.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Auric
C1100 Tualatin outperforms P1100 Coppermine at default clocks by 10% (same bus, same cache, opimizations in the former). Crank up the bus on the Celeron 1100 or 1200 and it will perform the same or better than all Pentium III branded models except perhaps the larger cache -S.

Do Tualatin Celly's fit right in, I thought there may have been an adapter?

I might jus pick up a 1.2 or 1.4 celly.. Might be a nice little upgrade for that system.

 

[Gibson486]

Don't you need those special socket conversions to do this?

 

[Spikesoldier]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: Auric
C1100 Tualatin outperforms P1100 Coppermine at default clocks by 10% (same bus, same cache, opimizations in the former). Crank up the bus on the Celeron 1100 or 1200 and it will perform the same or better than all Pentium III branded models except perhaps the larger cache -S.

Do Tualatin Celly's fit right in, I thought there may have been an adapter?

I might jus pick up a 1.2 or 1.4 celly.. Might be a nice little upgrade for that system.

do you have a slot p3 or a socket p3.

also if your board is an intel 815 b-step (which was released late in the s370 lifespan) or a via xxxx-T chipset motherboard, youre all set.

otherwise get the $5 socket adapter from compgeeks.

 

[MiranoPoncho]

'Scuse me, but a 1.4 ghz tully celley should be able to reach 1.862ghz, no sweat. thus being 14*133 no prob at all, as a 33% oc.

 

[Auric]

That seems optimistic but it's been awhile since perusing the overclockers database. The b-step referred to that has Tualatin support is the i815EP. My so equipped Abit ST6 still does duty for me mum (C1100 @ 1500), although actually the previous generation i440BX used in the legendary Abit BH6 which I also had can actually outperform it when adapted for the same Tualatin (either kicks the VIA offerings in the goolies). Alas, I upgraded before the availability of auxilliary powered viddy cards because the AGP slot could not provide enough power for even an R7500.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: Auric
C1100 Tualatin outperforms P1100 Coppermine at default clocks by 10% (same bus, same cache, opimizations in the former). Crank up the bus on the Celeron 1100 or 1200 and it will perform the same or better than all Pentium III branded models except perhaps the larger cache -S.

Do Tualatin Celly's fit right in, I thought there may have been an adapter?

I might jus pick up a 1.2 or 1.4 celly.. Might be a nice little upgrade for that system.

do you have a slot p3 or a socket p3.

also if your board is an intel 815 b-step (which was released late in the s370 lifespan) or a via xxxx-T chipset motherboard, youre all set.

otherwise get the $5 socket adapter from compgeeks.

Thread Title " Fastest S370 Celeron"



So everyone thinkgs the 1.4tully is the best bet, without an adapter?

 

[BigBadBiologist]

A PIII-S 1.4 is a very fast and very expensive CPU. I would stick with a Celeron 1.3. You can find them easily for about $30-35. All you have to do is set the FSB to 133 (and maybe wire wrap two pins to increase the Vcore a little) and you get a very fast system. I have one that I'm running at 1729MHz that benchmarks at about the same speed as a P4 2GHz. Even stock, the Celeron 1.3 would outperform a PIII 800 (they actually have the same amount of cache).

As far as the adapter goes, you have to tell us what kind of mobo you have.

 

[MadRat]

Why spend $30 on a 1.3 Celery when you can go to Fry's and spend $50 on a Sempron 2300+? Take the advice from others and ditch the P!!!. You should be able to FS/FT your way out of the P!!! into the Sempron. Spend the $150 to do the switchout. You'll be way more happy. Quite frankly there is little difference from 800MHz to 1.3GHz, especially when you consider o/c's are not a gimme. The 2300+ is going to smoke the Celery, plus it offers you 64-bit support for the future and a socket that can take a much better upgrade another year or two from now. Quite frankly nobody stops at one upgrade - in two months you'll want yet another. You might as well save yourself the hassle of going through the middle step.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier

Originally posted by: bjc112

Originally posted by: Auric
C1100 Tualatin outperforms P1100 Coppermine at default clocks by 10% (same bus, same cache, opimizations in the former). Crank up the bus on the Celeron 1100 or 1200 and it will perform the same or better than all Pentium III branded models except perhaps the larger cache -S.

Do Tualatin Celly's fit right in, I thought there may have been an adapter?

I might jus pick up a 1.2 or 1.4 celly.. Might be a nice little upgrade for that system.

do you have a slot p3 or a socket p3.

also if your board is an intel 815 b-step (which was released late in the s370 lifespan) or a via xxxx-T chipset motherboard, youre all set.

otherwise get the $5 socket adapter from compgeeks.

Thread Title " Fastest S370 Celeron"



So everyone thinkgs the 1.4tully is the best bet, without an adapter?

Get a 1.1 Tualeron, OC to 133FSB, enjoy.

- M4H

 

[BigBadBiologist]

Originally posted by: MadRat
Why spend $30 on a 1.3 Celery when you can go to Fry's and spend $50 on a Sempron 2300+? Take the advice from others and ditch the P!!!. You should be able to FS/FT your way out of the P!!! into the Sempron. Spend the $150 to do the switchout. You'll be way more happy. Quite frankly there is little difference from 800MHz to 1.3GHz, especially when you consider o/c's are not a gimme. The 2300+ is going to smoke the Celery, plus it offers you 64-bit support for the future and a socket that can take a much better upgrade another year or two from now. Quite frankly nobody stops at one upgrade - in two months you'll want yet another. You might as well save yourself the hassle of going through the middle step.

OCs on Tualatin cored CPUs are a gimme.

 

[bofkentucky]

Just a heads up, a PIII-S 1.4 puked on me at anything over 153mhz FSB with stock voltages, probably a ram issue, (crucial 2-2-2 PC133), but most of the exotic SDRAM (PC150/PC166) were jokes. The celly has the instant 100-133 bus push going for it, you might get one to post at 14 * 153 (2142Mhz), 14 * 143 (1988) might survive a night of Prime95 and 14 * 133 (1862) should be a piece of cake, even at 2-2-2. Best case, using the fastest SDRAM I ever saw would be 183*14 (2562), but I doubt it would do much more than POST at those speeds.

 

[Zap]

MadRat is right. Sell the Celeron mobo/CPU/RAM and get a cheap Fry's deal. The only "gimmes" with the Tualatin Celeron overclocks were from the 1.0A@1.33 and the 1.1A@1.46. The 1.2 didn't always make 1.6 (but often did). Above that, luck of the draw. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED my Tualatin Celerons and I have at one time or another owned nearly 10 of them (still have one in operation and two spares), but if you are close to a GHz already and are looking for much more speed, time to find a more modern platform.