fat is back in style?

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Lavans

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Then you're arguing with the wrong person. I'm not saying an extra 10 pounds is a death sentence. I'm saying at 6 feet tall and 230 pounds, I'm fat and unhealthy. It's not OK and nobody should claim it is.

6 foot 230 lbs is obese. So yes, that's unhealthy.

Again, overweight vs obese. Understand the difference.
 

nehalem256

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6 foot 230 lbs is obese. So yes, that's unhealthy.

Again, overweight vs obese. Understand the difference.

But if you hold up overweight people as "models" then it is easier for the obese to rational that they aren't that bad. Especially since in this case we don't actually know how overweight the woman is since she just "estimates" her weight.
 

jagec

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Then you're arguing with the wrong person. I'm not saying an extra 10 pounds is a death sentence. I'm saying at 6 feet tall and 230 pounds, I'm fat and unhealthy. It's not OK and nobody should claim it is.

Lavans is talking about the science behind it, which shows that being slightly overweight (not obese) will actually allow you to live longer (quality of life is another argument). You're talking about the social aspects behind it--whether people will misconstrue the findings and use them as a justification for overeating and not exercising. This wouldn't be the first time when scientific findings were misinterpreted by society.

What the science means is that doctors shouldn't necessarily get on the case of patients who are a few pounds overweight...encourage them to eat BETTER, sure, encourage them to exercise, sure, but no need to emphasize eating LESS unless their weight is increasing.
 

Lavans

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But if you hold up overweight people as "models" then it is easier for the obese to rational that they aren't that bad. Especially since in this case we don't actually know how overweight the woman is since she just "estimates" her weight.

Everyone rationalizes in their own defense whenever its convenient for them. That's what we call being ignorant. Saying its ok to be obese because chubby models exist is like saying its ok to smoke because you see it in glamour shots, which again, no one flips out over. The most important part of it all is being educated, which most people simply are not.
 

nehalem256

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Everyone rationalizes in their own defense whenever its convenient for them. That's what we call being ignorant. Saying its ok to be obese because chubby models exist is like saying its ok to smoke because you see it in glamour shots, which again, no one flips out over. The most important part of it all is being educated, which most people simply are not.

http://www.smokefreemovies.ucsf.edu/problem/moviessell.html
In 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006 2008, and 2010 the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention named tobacco in the movies a major factor in teen smoking. In 2007, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences concluded that:

Exposure to depictions of smoking in movies is associated with more favorable attitudes toward smoking and characters who smoke, and these positive views are particularly prevalent among youth who themselves smoke.

Exposure to smoking in movies increases the risk for smoking initiation. Cross-sectional and longitudinal studies provide clear support that youth report greater susceptibility and intentions to smoke and are more likely to actually try smoking following exposure to smoking in the movies and on television. Furthermore, even after controlling for other factors known to be associated with adolescent smoking intention and tobacco use, studies show a clear dose effect, whereby greater exposure to smoking in the movies is associated with a greater chance of smoking.

The increased risk for smoking initiation as a result of exposure to smoking in the movies can be reduced by antismoking advertisements and parental restriction of which movies their children watch.

People do get upset about smoking in media
 

jagec

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Lets see they ban people from smoking in restaurants. I don't see fat people being banned from restaurants

They ban smokers from restaurants so that other people won't be affected by secondhand smoke. They don't ban them from cigarette shops, since no one actually cares about the smokers themselves. So, to complete the analogy and bring this discussion full circle, we shouldn't ban fat people from restaurants for their own health, but we should ban them from modeling shoots where they might have an effect on other peoples' health.
 

Jeff7181

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Lavans is talking about the science behind it, which shows that being slightly overweight (not obese) will actually allow you to live longer (quality of life is another argument). You're talking about the social aspects behind it--whether people will misconstrue the findings and use them as a justification for overeating and not exercising. This wouldn't be the first time when scientific findings were misinterpreted by society.

What the science means is that doctors shouldn't necessarily get on the case of patients who are a few pounds overweight...encourage them to eat BETTER, sure, encourage them to exercise, sure, but no need to emphasize eating LESS unless their weight is increasing.

But that's not what's happening. Kids are being told it's OK to be obese. Don't eat McDonalds and eat fruits and vegatables, but it's still OK if you're 150 pounds at age 10. You're special and you're good enough and smart enough and gosh darn it... people like you!
 

BeeBoop

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Who would have thought, Jenni Runk, a plus size model still has to have her pictures photoshoped. The info comes from a photoshop artist who regularly does this work on models. Link below.


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/...shop-signed-a-graphic-artist-with-pics?page=7



In the blue bathing suit, either it is a super duper "slimmer" suit, or they trimmed her waist. I've never seen a slimmer suit do in real life what they do in the ads. Also there is a very weird shadow on her shoulder that I can't figure out. If it is a shadow cast by her head, the shadow would be on the whole shoulder, not just the end of her shoulder with light in between. Her arms look really odd too. On the two piece bathing suit picture, they stretched her neck ridiculously.
 

BeeBoop

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Victoria secret models photos are altered as well. What's your point?

I thought the point was to display real average looking women, the whole point of being a plus size model, and not altered photos to make them look better?
 

SheHateMe

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I thought the point was to display real average looking women, the whole point of being a plus size model, and not altered photos to make them look better?

Are you kidding? You can say the same about that hot chick you saw on the cover of whatever magazine. Models are photoshopped. No matter what size they are.
 
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BeeBoop

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Are you kidding? You can say the same about that hot chick you saw on the cover of whatever magazine. Models are photoshopped.

Then what is the point of being a plus size model if they're going to alter your photo to make you look slimmer? Plus size is suppose to be the real deal right? What real women look like?
 

Jodell88

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Then what is the point of being a plus size model if they're going to alter your photo to make you look slimmer? Plus size is suppose to be the real deal right? What real women look like?
What's the point of being a skinny model if they're going to make you even skinnier?
 

Jodell88

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But she is being FAT on purpose. Skinny models want to be skinny.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!

When you weigh 110 pounds and they're telling you that you're fat. Sure, they want to be skinny.
 
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