Fatal1ty...Who Actually Buys Crap With This Geeks Logo On It?

[PascalT]

because starpower sells. even if he's a gamer, he's still known.

why would you buy a hockey stick with the name gretzky on it? because he uses it.

 

[HannibalTheCannibal]

He said he wouldlike to play until he is thirty. Im thirty one. Hmmmm...... Im gonna uninstall my UT2004 now...............

 

[Duvie]

Bowling and golf take physical strength....How hard is it to push a key on the keypad....I mean gamers have tremendous hand/eye coordination no doubt and have to make quick mental decisions, but athlete NO...

"an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition"....fits competition no doubt but lack physical exertion....

" the occupation of athletes who compete for pay"...now we need to look at the definition of an athlete.... "a person trained to compete in sports"...again lacks the physical component...

Now thoise ppl who do that dancing game I have seen at the arcade...far more of a sport then you boys playing doom3 and everquest....LOL!!!

 

[Tea Bag]

Screw the rep this guy has.. Its 200 bucks!! Good one. Abit never ceases to amaze me with their sky-high pricing.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: PascalT
because starpower sells. even if he's a gamer, he's still known.

why would you buy a hockey stick with the name gretzky on it? because he uses it.

Boy you guys suck at analogies around here....

The difference is since you dont seem to understand is that gretsky uses the stick directly to score goals and may make him a better shot. that would mean it would make more sense for uber geek to promote a maker or brand of keyboard or mouse. The motherboard and vid card have no effect on his performance unless they are so flaky they crash and he cant finish. He does not directly interact or touch those items so they cannot effect his personal ability. Do you think they let him use his own computer at the tournies?? i dont think so....His skill comes from hours of practicing and perfecting movements, and thus helping to decrease his reaction time. Hardware components inside wont effect or enhance his abilities

The analogy of a motherboard promotion by uber geek would be more like Gretsky promoting the maker of the refrigeration units used to make the ice.

 

[Muscles]

Bowling and golf take physical strength....How hard is it to push a key on the keypad....I mean gamers have tremendous hand/eye coordination no doubt and have to make quick mental decisions, but athlete NO...

What a joke. Physical strength... Do you want me to start naming fat ass out-of-shape professional bowlers and golfers that don't hold a candle to lets say MY fitness level? And I'm an average joe who runs a minimum of 2 miles a day and lifts weights 3-4 times a week. And to think I'm actually a computer enthusiast as well. Wow how is that possible?

What about NASCAR? Same type of hand eye coordination as gaming IMO. People consider NASCAR a sport, why not pro gaming? What's the difference between physically manipulating a steering wheel and pedals versus a mouse and keyboard?

Whether people want to admit it or not, competitive multiplayer gaming will be as much of a sport as any other. It's already going on in other countries like Korea. Some of their pro gamers there are as recognized as say Michael Jordan is in the United States. In Korea, multiplayer matches are all televised etc. I wonder how much longer until it starts happening in the states.

 

[Talon Razor]

The irony in this thread is killing me....

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Geeks bashing geeks? That guy would kick your geek asses in the "cyber athlete" olympics Athletes endorse products all day, why should the gaming scene be any different now? Discuss.

Cuz it's different. I'll never be as good as Allen Iverson at basketball. But if I quit my job to devote my life to memorizing maps in Unreal Tournament, I could kick Fatal1ty's geeky ass. But, enough of the Fatal1ty bashing. I just want to know if any of you respond to Fatal1ty the same you respond to Air Jordans.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I would rather buy a vid card or a system with dapunishers name on it. then at least I know it is probably a decent item....

LoL! I'd buy stuff with his name on it, too. DP is the man. But back on topic, does anyone really buy the stuff with Fatality's name on it just because of his name? I haven't anyone here bragging about doing so. And the reviews on Fatality parts is less than stellar so far, IMO they don't warrant the price premium.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Muscles

Bowling and golf take physical strength....How hard is it to push a key on the keypad....I mean gamers have tremendous hand/eye coordination no doubt and have to make quick mental decisions, but athlete NO...

What a joke. Physical strength... Do you want me to start naming fat ass out-of-shape professional bowlers and golfers that don't hold a candle to lets say MY fitness level? And I'm an average joe who runs a minimum of 2 miles a day and lifts weights 3-4 times a week. And to think I'm actually a computer enthusiast as well. Wow how is that possible?

What about NASCAR? Same type of hand eye coordination as gaming IMO. People consider NASCAR a sport, why not pro gaming? What's the difference between physically manipulating a steering wheel and pedals versus a mouse and keyboard?

Whether people want to admit it or not, competitive multiplayer gaming will be as much of a sport as any other. It's already going on in other countries like Korea. Some of their pro gamers there are as recognized as say Michael Jordan is in the United States. In Korea, multiplayer matches are all televised etc. I wonder how much longer until it starts happening in the states.

The only joke is your reply...

Bowling take phsical strength indeed. MOst pro bowlers work out to increase arm strength, flexibilty, etc. If a person was out of shape physically to bowl in a tournament where one may play many matches in one day his arm may tire resulting in loss of strength thus speed and release of ball resulting in potentially poorer play. An athlete or well triained bowler condiotnds for many frames of bowling....

Golf is so physically demanding, that if you are that stupid to see that, there is no need to finsih replying to this reply...

Nascar is a sport as well because you hold a steering wheel vibrating tremendously and keep that car from sliding ito that wall...It isn't like your PS2 game wheel!!! LOL!!!!! Take that along with long races, tremendous heat insode those cars and suits requiring conditioning and stamina.....I think other types of racing are more so physiaclly demanding his...AMA superbikes is one for an example....Dirtbiking and quad racing where a rider has to really throw his weight around to get the thing to react....


playing DOOM3 is not a sport. We have seen it is a competitive, but so is monopoly. Want to add that one as well??? It is certainly lucrative and perceived as big business...Athletes??? NO!!!!

Just cause you run dont mean shite!!! Unless you run while playing the game it isn't the game that is doing anything for you.

 

[Muscles]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Geeks bashing geeks? That guy would kick your geek asses in the "cyber athlete" olympics Athletes endorse products all day, why should the gaming scene be any different now? Discuss.

Cuz it's different. I'll never be as good as Allen Iverson at basketball. But if I quit my job to devote my life to memorizing maps in Unreal Tournament, I could kick Fatal1ty's geeky ass. But, enough of the Fatal1ty bashing. I just want to know if any of you respond to Fatal1ty the same you respond to Air Jordans.

MrControversial has pipe dreams. If it were that easy to get good at gaming then everyone would be doing it. There are tournaments going on now that pay 150 grand for the 1st place finisher alone. Most of you don't make that kind of money in a year. Just like any other sport, a very small percentage of people have the talent/coordination to become that good. There are so many dorks out there that think they're good at something and when the public takes a look at their abilities they're laughed at. Just look at American Idol, hilarious that so many of those people think they're good when they're so awful.

 

[Muscles]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Muscles

Bowling and golf take physical strength....How hard is it to push a key on the keypad....I mean gamers have tremendous hand/eye coordination no doubt and have to make quick mental decisions, but athlete NO...

What a joke. Physical strength... Do you want me to start naming fat ass out-of-shape professional bowlers and golfers that don't hold a candle to lets say MY fitness level? And I'm an average joe who runs a minimum of 2 miles a day and lifts weights 3-4 times a week. And to think I'm actually a computer enthusiast as well. Wow how is that possible?

What about NASCAR? Same type of hand eye coordination as gaming IMO. People consider NASCAR a sport, why not pro gaming? What's the difference between physically manipulating a steering wheel and pedals versus a mouse and keyboard?

Whether people want to admit it or not, competitive multiplayer gaming will be as much of a sport as any other. It's already going on in other countries like Korea. Some of their pro gamers there are as recognized as say Michael Jordan is in the United States. In Korea, multiplayer matches are all televised etc. I wonder how much longer until it starts happening in the states.

The only joke is your reply...

Bowling take phsical strength indeed. MOst pro bowlers work out to increase arm strength, flexibilty, etc. If a person was out of shape physically to bowl in a tournament where one may play many matches in one day his arm may tire resulting in loss of strength thus speed and release of ball resulting in potentially poorer play. An athlete or well triained bowler condiotnds for many frames of bowling....

Golf is so physically demanding, that if you are that stupid to see that, there is no need to finsih replying to this reply...

Nascar is a sport as well because you hold a steering wheel vibrating tremendously and keep that car from sliding ito that wall...It isn't like your PS2 game wheel!!! LOL!!!!! Take that along with long races, tremendous heat insode those cars and suits requiring conditioning and stamina.....I think other types of racing are more so physiaclly demanding his...AMA superbikes is one for an example....Dirtbiking and quad racing where a rider has to really throw his weight around to get the thing to react....


playing DOOM3 is not a sport. We have seen it is a competitive, but so is monopoly. Want to add that one as well??? It is certainly lucrative and perceived as big business...Athletes??? NO!!!!

Just cause you run dont mean shite!!! Unless you run while playing the game it isn't the game that is doing anything for you.

Your reading comprehension blows. Just because I run doesnt mean anything? I was proving a point that I am in way better physical shape then your so called "golf and bowling" athletes. Tom Kite - a 4 foot tall man who probably couldn't do 2 pushups. John Daly - another pro golfer. Poor guy would probably die of a heart attack if he were forced to run a mile. I've bowled and I've golfed and while they take a tremendous amount of skill and practice to become one of the elite, let's not try and pretend they're tremendous athletes. Carl Lewis is an athelete, Michael Jordan, Hershal Walker, I can go on.

Bottom Line - It takes as much talent and dedication to be one of the elite in gaming as in any other sport. Fortunately for some, you don't have to be in good shape to be good at pro gaming, golf, bowling, or nascar.

 

[boyRacer]

There's a way of asking questions without insults, which is why you come off as envious of this guy.

Even if you were better than this guy, I don't think I would buy a board named MrControversial.

 

[Duvie]

Yeah and so am I then some of those ppl...fact is they train for their use. Your running is fine bt since bowler dont run 2 miles and golfers may walk 2 miles it again doesn't mean shite....It is about power....Golfers like David Duval and Tiger show weight training is becomeing a bigger influence in golf. They outdrive a lot of ppl and it allows them to swing slower iwth higher accuracy and yet have some of the higher driving distance averages....

Also sometimes it is not about brute strength it is about conditioning, flexibility, etc.

Computer gamers athletes.... iwill laugh about this one for the rest of the day....

Got to go!!! It was funny seeing someone defend this!!!

 

[VRXJudge]

Even so, golf is very heavy on precision rather than strength. So is gaming. Each has different needs. Who knows, maybe someone would get better at gaming if they weight trained. It shows in most other sports.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: peterattheboro
I've seen this guy play one game of UT2003 and he camped his arse off. If some guy did that to me I wouldn't even finish the game. But then I don't play games for $10,000/$20,000 a pop.

Hate to say it, but most high-level players that play UT, on a "normal" (non-instagib) level, "camp" like a mofo. At least in original UT, there are tons of little nooks and crannies, that are considered "in shadow" by the game engine, so if you duck there, your character actually becomes much darker, nearly invision. Stealth is your ally, running right at your opponent with a chaingun may seem heroic, but you'll either likely take damage or die because of it. I tend to prefer the sniper levels myself. I was a big fan of the "one shot kill" function of the Golden Gun in GoldenEye too. So the sniper rifle in UT is my favorite weapon as well.)

I happen to know one of the fellows that used to be in the top overall online rankings in original UT, and the most amazing thing is, he can play that game nearly no matter what kind of system rig he is running on. He's got powers like Neo in the Matrix, or something. I'm not so bad myself, I had him sweating a few times, on levels that he never played before, but on levels that he knows, I got my arse handed to me.

Originally posted by: Duvie
Bowling and golf take physical strength....How hard is it to push a key on the keypad....I mean gamers have tremendous hand/eye coordination no doubt and have to make quick mental decisions, but athlete NO...

It's not just strengh, it's quickness too. I'm not sure why you think that strengh makes a sport, but agility not.

Originally posted by: Duvie
"an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition"....fits competition no doubt but lack physical exertion....

" the occupation of athletes who compete for pay"...now we need to look at the definition of an athlete.... "a person trained to compete in sports"...again lacks the physical component..."

Why does it have to be physical? Why not mental? Is Chess not a sport, nor Chess championships a competition? The amount of mental stamina, in terms of extended period of intense concentration and hyper-awareness playing those sorts of FPS games.. that really, honestly, does require "training" to achieve that level of ability. It's really no different than any Joe trying to walk in off the street and compete against sprinters or marathon runners, without training. It just doesn't work that way.

Originally posted by: Duvie
Now thoise ppl who do that dancing game I have seen at the arcade...far more of a sport then you boys playing doom3 and everquest....LOL!!!

Well, I don't quite see how MMORPGs could be a competive sport, at least not in terms of direct competition, but those dancing games.. I tried one a few times. Let me tell you, they've definately harder than they look. I've trained my hand-eye coordination for years playing arcade and home video-games, but ... I've never really trained my foot-ear coordination in that same way. What a mess. I suppose it doesn't help that I have a larger physical stature and tend to accidentally hit two buttons with one stomp.

 

[VRXJudge]

What, you wear heels? Otherwise you couldn't even hit one button with big feet (unless you were on tip-toes).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Geeks bashing geeks? That guy would kick your geek asses in the "cyber athlete" olympics Athletes endorse products all day, why should the gaming scene be any different now? Discuss.

Cuz it's different. I'll never be as good as Allen Iverson at basketball. But if I quit my job to devote my life to memorizing maps in Unreal Tournament, I could kick Fatal1ty's geeky ass. But, enough of the Fatal1ty bashing. I just want to know if any of you respond to Fatal1ty the same you respond to Air Jordans.

Yes sir, I do respond the same way I don't buy the gear based on who endorses it, probably like yourself. I buy most things based on wether it meets my requirements, offers good value, and if for certain catagories, if it has aesthetic appeal to me.


I do feel your comment about being able to kick his butt gaming if you devoted all your time to it is a little arrogant though. I believe natural aptitude and twitch muscle reflexes are a significant factor in gaming prowess from observing vids of some of the top competitors in certain games I have seen. Intelligence and a host of other physical, emotional, and mental factors effect our ability to succeed in various endeavors as well. I am suggesting that it is possible, perhaps even probable, that you could no more best him at his chosen game than you could Iverson at hoops.

It is also possible he is among the best more due his being a "natural" than any other factor. Talent/potential without the dedication and subsequent hard training, often goes unrealized, but succeeding without it, despite the high degree of dedication and training, is a far more difficult proposition still :light: You may disagree but that is my life's experience and hence the basis of my philosophy.

I also think it is great that pro gamers have an opportunity to make a good living from doing something they love. It is the same stoke I got from seeing skateboarding and surfing become viable occupations for the elite. I am not top tier at any of them, but love to participate, and also to watch in awe as others do what I only fantasize about. I say more power to him, and if the product isn't the best one, it should just be heaped in with all the thousands of other endorsed products that aren't either. Many more endorsed computer hardware products will follow and it will be so commonplace we won't even comment on it anymore.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: MrControversial
Cuz it's different. I'll never be as good as Allen Iverson at basketball. But if I quit my job to devote my life to memorizing maps in Unreal Tournament, I could kick Fatal1ty's geeky ass. But, enough of the Fatal1ty bashing. I just want to know if any of you respond to Fatal1ty the same you respond to Air Jordans.

Do you honestly think that? I'll be there, to LOL at you arse, after it gets handed back to you completely.

Believe me, I've played a lot of my friends both competitively and non-competetively in a number of different styles of video games. Sure, practice will get you to a certain level. Innate talent will get you to a certain level. But there is a futher level, that requires both of those. And then further still, it requires the raw desire to succeed, above all others - including yourself. That last step is often as much as a personal challenge and conquest as it is anything else. High-level competition play is almost like those fight scenes that you see in some anime - a battle of the power of will, and of speed and tactics. If you play to true competition-level gaming, you'll understand. It very much truely is a competitive sport.

I don't enter competitions so much anymore; I've hit "retirement age" already, although I enjoy casual competitive gameplay with my still somewhat younger game-playing friends who still play competitively. I've always more-or-less played purely for fun though, and a sense of personal achievement, I don't play well in competitions for prizes and stuff. I guess I somehow feel that it isn't a "pure" sport that way. Perhaps that's the sort of thing that players that choose not to "go pro" feel. Not that I was that good anyways, or that the "sport" was that big back then, but, like I said, I think it's great that video gaming is now considered a sport worthy of attention.

I would also suggest that you will start to see more endorsements, rather than less, so if it bothers you, start preparing your defenses now.

(Btw, How do you think the FiringSquad site started? I'll give you a hint, it used to be called "Thresh's FiringSquad", IIRC.)

 

[REMF]

i would buy his Abit branded gear because it is Abits Premium compnents, which are good. i don't care who he is, and would never have heard of him if it wasn't for Abit.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Nascar is a sport as well because you hold a steering wheel vibrating tremendously and keep that car from sliding ito that wall...It isn't like your PS2 game wheel!!! LOL!!!!! Take that along with long races, tremendous heat insode those cars and suits requiring conditioning and stamina.....I think other types of racing are more so physiaclly demanding his...AMA superbikes is one for an example....Dirtbiking and quad racing where a rider has to really throw his weight around to get the thing to react....
playing DOOM3 is not a sport.

Important note highlighted. It puzzles me, that you would mention the conditioning and stamina required for racing, when at the same time dismissing competitive (video) gaming - which requires nearly the same sort of (mental) stamia in order to succeed. I'll let you in on a secret - your brain requires the same sorts of chemical "fuel" in order to run at peak condition, just like your muscles do, although those fuels are different in nature. But both sorts of systems require training and conditioning in order to enhance their capabilities and stamina. The split-second response time and reflexes required, are also very similar between high-speed racing, and competitive gaming. In either case, a lagged response can spell doom, which requires a level of heightened awareness for an extended period of time.

If you think that you can simply pop a Red Bull and go all night, well, without some sort of conditioning/training period before the event, I tend to doubt it.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: VRXJudge
What, you wear heels? Otherwise you couldn't even hit one button with big feet (unless you were on tip-toes).

Heels? Eh, no. My arcade must have the cheapo model. It's some wierd Korean jobbie, and the directionals are angles instead of on-axis directionals.

Edit: Actually, now I remember. When I started to use one leg/foot to hit the pads, I subconciously kept re-adjusting my other foot because I was afraid that I was going to fall over, and usually hit another one of the buttons too. (I'm 6'4", so the fear of falling and hitting my head on a metal railing while my legs are flying out from under me is pretty strong.)

 

[KayKay]

The First Fatal1ty board is actually one of the best if not the best overclocking board for the socket 775. From the tons of features alone, I think enthusiasts could look past the name and the spokesperson, and look at the product itself.

Hey, I may not like George Foreman, but his grills ain't bad either

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Based on your comment about competing Larry, I'd say you are a soul surfer of gaming

BTW, for those who think NASCAR isn't athletic let me say this; a Local radio personality used to think NASCAR wasn't a sport either and bashed it on his talk show all the time. He was invited to do the Richard Petty driving experience. He came back a changed man! Put on the fire suit, get in that cramped little cockpit in Florida heat, start driving at over 100mph on that track, and you will soon realize you are working your ass off to keep from wrecking. Then consider the pros go twice as fast for much longer than the 5 laps or so you did and you will understand these guys are in shape!

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Based on your comment about competing Larry, I'd say you are a soul surfer of gaming

BTW, for those who think NASCAR isn't athletic let me say this; a Local radio personality used to think NASCAR wasn't a sport either and bashed it on his talk show all the time. He was invited to do the Richard Petty driving experience. He came back a changed man! Put on the fire suit, get in that cramped little cockpit in Florida heat, start driving at over 100mph on that track, and you will soon realize you are working your ass off to keep from wrecking. Then consider the pros go twice as fast for much longer than the 5 laps or so you did and you will understand these guys are in shape!

Well cmon, what do you expect from a bunch of armchair racers (which are a dime a dozen in OT) who think their daily commute is comparable to a NASCAR race?