Father charged with "headshot" killing of drunk driver that killed his 2 sons

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alkemyst

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Unable prove your point, you have sunk to gibberish dishonest ad hominem garbage. You have lost the discussion. You were invited to freshly link to data and you chose not to.

Dude, I do not have the time to do your homework. If you aren't going to read what I provided, why should I provide anything new?
 

Humpy

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The thing about car windows is that they can go up, as well as down, pretty easily, so I wouldn't automatically believe that the drunk witness was wrong in seeing the idiot father punching the drunk driver.

Hearing additional gunfire after the crash is pretty meaningless also. It's Texas.

It is nice to hear that a cop actually got fired for not doing a good job. I'm big a fan of people be held responsible for their actions. I hope the father who put his family danger is also held responsible.
 

waggy

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The thing about car windows is that they can go up, as well as down, pretty easily, so I wouldn't automatically believe that the drunk witness was wrong in seeing the idiot father punching the drunk driver.

Hearing additional gunfire after the crash is pretty meaningless also. It's Texas.

It is nice to hear that a cop actually got fired for not doing a good job. I'm big a fan of people be held responsible for their actions. I hope the father who put his family danger is also held responsible.

the additional gunfire is huge. yeah its Texas but it's not like people are out shooting all the time.

but what really makes it bad is the cop did NOT put in his report and he "might" have told the investigators. This something that has the potential to change who they look at. AT least give them more then the father to look at
 

BikeJunkie

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Apparently the mods don't want to interact and now this is a fuckfest.

You're buttsore because the mods won't peel the pack of wolves off you after going on about how you're a drunk driving fuckstick that thinks it's no big deal?

So precious.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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You're buttsore because the mods won't peel the pack of wolves off you after going on about how you're a drunk driving fuckstick that thinks it's no big deal?

So precious.

Don't need them to peel anyone off me, just to stick by the rules I have to follow too.

I have never said driving drunk is not a big deal and I have said when I am drinking I don't usually ever drive and if I do, it's well after I have been sober a while.

The problem is you and the ilk like yourself have to inject things into my posts that were never said nor intended to make you look better in some way.

The main difference is my 'story' stays consistant, you and your trollies always have something new from 'back in the day' that changes thread to thread.
 

smackababy

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The main difference is my 'story' stays consistant, you and your trollies always have something new from 'back in the day' that changes thread to thread.

And, that consistent link to all of them is they are bullshit. You had 6 beers over 8 hours and blew a 0.165 because of some kind of malfunction of the breathalyzer? Highly unlikely, bro. The fact that people call you out on that being IMPOSSIBLE to have occurred and you didn't say "well, maybe I did have more than I recall" is why him, and his ilk, give you shit.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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And, that consistent link to all of them is they are bullshit. You had 6 beers over 8 hours and blew a 0.165 because of some kind of malfunction of the breathalyzer? Highly unlikely, bro. The fact that people call you out on that being IMPOSSIBLE to have occurred and you didn't say "well, maybe I did have more than I recall" is why him, and his ilk, give you shit.

Except I had the bar tab at the time of the case and a bartender that was serving me as a witness stating I did not have more than that to drink.

So unless I left the bar at 2am or so and then pounded 8+ beers in my car on the way home, disposed of all the containers prior to parking, and somehow was still able to do my FST's fine...something went wrong.

It was 15 years ago now.

Most here apparently have no clue what is involved in a DUI arrest to begin with though so it no wonder they are confused/do not believe me of the process.
 

alkemyst

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In Michigan .17 is "super" drunk with additional penalties. MADD was wanting .15.

.15 and beyond is pretty intoxicated. Most people will be visibility affected.

What Is the Michigan Super Drunk Law?

The Michigan Super Drunk law applies to drivers with no prior OUI convictions within the past seven years who operate a motor vehicle with a BAC of .17% or higher. Drivers with a prior conviction within seven years face enhanced penalties, even more harsh then those for a typical Super Drunk conviction.

For someone in a traditional drunk driving case—that is, with a BAC below .17%--you could face a maximum of 93 days in jail. The maximum jail sentence for a Super Drunk case is 180 days—almost double! The length of a driver’s license suspension is also increased. For a traditional conviction, you could be ordered to 30 days without driving and 150 days of restricted driving. For Super Drunk, there is absolutely no driving for 45 days and 320 days of restricted driving. However, unlike a tradition OUI charge, a person charged with Super Drunk driving must have an ignition interlock device installed for the entire period of restricted driving.

The fines for a Super Drunk charge are also increased. While the fines for traditional drunk driving are $100-$500, the fines for Super Drunk are $200-$700. In addition, a person charged with Super Drunk driving is required to receive alcohol treatment for at least one year.

As you can tell, the punishment associated with a Michigan Super Drunk conviction is both severe and oppressively expensive.
 
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BikeJunkie

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What kind of anorexic tweener do you have to be to blow a .165 on a few beers over 8 hours, anyway?

You're either a liar or or an anorexic tweener.
 

z1ggy

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Except I had the bar tab at the time of the case and a bartender that was serving me as a witness stating I did not have more than that to drink.

So unless I left the bar at 2am or so and then pounded 8+ beers in my car on the way home, disposed of all the containers prior to parking, and somehow was still able to do my FST's fine...something went wrong.

It was 15 years ago now.

Most here apparently have no clue what is involved in a DUI arrest to begin with though so it no wonder they are confused/do not believe me of the process.

Since you weren't painting walls, eating bread or doing anything else but sitting in your car, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you were still drunk.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/DrivingIssues/1055505643.html#.U_dk2ZqKC70

While many activities did increase apparent BAC by quite a bit, no where did they raise them as much as .168%. There is literally no scientific, biological or any other means that you could have blown a .168% and been stone cold sober, which is what you should have been after 8 hours when you only consumed 4-6 drinks, especially given the fact you were in the 200lb range.

Just take some responsibility. I mean, you have no problem taking responsibility for the good things your 26yo daughter has done.. so why not your own?
 

alkemyst

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What kind of anorexic tweener do you have to be to blow a .165 on a few beers over 8 hours, anyway?

You're either a liar or or an anorexic tweener.

You have gone into full troll mode now.

It's Friday, bro. Be fucking happy.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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I am going to ask two things:

1. Alky, I'm asking you to cease posting in this thread, as I believe you have said all you needed to say and more.

2. Everyone else: I am asking YOU not to mention or call out or question Alky or anything he has previously posted here, going forward. That's only fair, given request #1

Perknose
Forum Director
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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i think perky is trying to say something but i don't think he put enough emphases on it. red would be better.

:biggrin:
 

smackababy

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Is there a transcripts of the testimony being released? I'd like to see what other evidence the state has on this guy, besides some drunk "witnesses".
 

waggy

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Is there a transcripts of the testimony being released? I'd like to see what other evidence the state has on this guy, besides some drunk "witnesses".

/this

I would like to read the transcripts of this. i just wonder what else they could have?
 

Craig234

Lifer
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Put me on the jury, he'll walk away a free man. Sick and tired of these idiots who can't get it through their heads that driving drunk is not tolerable, and you'll probably end up killing someone.

Justifiable homicide, in my eyes. :thumbsup:

Funny thing is, I am passionate against drunk driving, yet I put you around their level if not worse.
 
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