Fatties are bankrupting America

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OutHouse

Lifer
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I have said it before and I will say it again. Round up fat people and put them in re education camps where they will learn how to eat and work out just like Biggest Looser only on a massive scale. If someone doesn’t loose weigh don't let them out. Euthanasia would probably be a cheaper and quicker option also and should be considered.

you would do well in North Korea. why dont you move there.
 

preslove

Lifer
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Fat people shouldn't be discriminated against. That wouldn't solve anything

The problem is that state, federal, and (most) local government policy enables a fattening lifestyle. The feds subsidize shitty food, fed and state governments spend most of their transportation dollars on highways that funnel fat people to their jobs and leisure activities, local governments have been following the pathetic suburban model for decades.

All this leads to shitty food costing less than whole foods and most people never getting even minimal exercise.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
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Got a link for that?
All I could find shows that the US is paying 20 percent of its total health care costs on Diabetes while Japan pays 6 percent.

http://quezi.com/14977

Total Prevalence of Diabetes in the United States, All Ages, 2010

Total: 25.8 million people – 8.3% percent of the U.S. population has diabetes.
Diagnosed diabetes: 18.8 million people
Undiagnosed diabetes: 7.0 million people


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12324979

it is estimated that more than 12 million Japanese people are hyperglycemic

population of japan 128 million / 12 million is 15%
 

surfsatwerk

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Sin taxes are ridiculous and wouldn't stop people from being fatasses unless you took it to astronomical extremes. It's not any different than gas prices; every time they go up people start yapping about how it's going to impact driving habits, but it never does.

It's not about stopping them, it's about getting more money from them. Same as with smokes and booze.
 

Rakewell

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Fat people shouldn't be discriminated against. That wouldn't solve anything

The problem is that state, federal, and (most) local government policy enables a fattening lifestyle. The feds subsidize shitty food, fed and state governments spend most of their transportation dollars on highways that funnel fat people to their jobs and leisure activities, local governments have been following the pathetic suburban model for decades.

All this leads to shitty food costing less than whole foods and most people never getting even minimal exercise.

Discrimination is a harsh word, agreed.

However, the obese do need to take responsibility for themselves.

Let's be realistic: The government is in bed with the Food industry, and is not going to do anything to regulate the production companies.

As it was with smoking, it's up to the individual and communities to change their health.
 

Train

Lifer
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Fat people shouldn't be discriminated against. That wouldn't solve anything

The problem is that state, federal, and (most) local government policy enables a fattening lifestyle. The feds subsidize shitty food, fed and state governments spend most of their transportation dollars on highways that funnel fat people to their jobs and leisure activities, local governments have been following the pathetic suburban model for decades.

All this leads to shitty food costing less than whole foods and most people never getting even minimal exercise.

It's ALWAYS someone elses fault, isn't it?
 

preslove

Lifer
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Discrimination is a harsh word, agreed.

However, the obese do need to take responsibility for themselves.

Let's be realistic: The government is in bed with the Food industry, and is not going to do anything to regulate the production companies.

As it was with smoking, it's up to he individual communities to change their health.

The problem is that it is much harder for people to take responsibility for themselves because government policy enables fat lifestyles. If the government should enable healthy lifestyles (or was just neutral), then you'd see a lot less obesity.
 

preslove

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what is the suburban model and what makes it pathetic?

Post WWII urban planning. You have to drive everywhere to do anything, you have to provide free parking to fatasses if you want to build a store, lot sizes have to be huge, and numerous other automobile centric regulations. Transportation laws since WWII have protected automobiles over pedestrians, cyclists, and public transportation.

It's pathetic because it's extremely wasteful and it's a prime contributor to the obesity epidemic.
 
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preslove

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It's ALWAYS someone elses fault, isn't it?

Are American's just lazier and stupider than Europeans, or something? I'm saying that fucked up government policies are at fault. You are saying that Americans are less virtuous.

Why do you hate America?
 

El Guaraguao

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America. The fattest country on this planet, yet America gets the most medals, including golds in the 2012 Olympics. Heh.
 

Rakewell

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The problem is that it is much harder for people to take responsibility for themselves because government policy enables fat lifestyles. If the government should enable healthy lifestyles (or was just neutral), then you'd see a lot less obesity.


I don't buy that. That's like saying "I smoke because my government doesn't inhibit me".

Preslove,

The only factor that has changed since the obesity epidemic began was addition of chemicals into the food, and the general quantity.

Everything else has been the same... Since the 50s.
 

Fausto

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America. The fattest country on this planet, yet America gets the most medals, including golds in the 2012 Olympics. Heh.
It makes sense if you think about it. We have a huge audience of fat people who don't play sports, but will spectate the shit out of them (while stuffing themselves, of course).
 

preslove

Lifer
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I don't buy that. That's like saying "I smoke because my government doesn't inhibit me".

Preslove,

The only factor that has changed since the obesity epidemic began was addition of chemicals into the food, and the general quantity.

Everything else has been the same... Since the 50s.

Bullshit. Car ownership has gone way up and walking has gone way down. Commutes have lengthened considerably, and it didn't magically change in 1945. It was a gradual process.

Cigarette taxes and anti-smoking ads have considerably cut smoking levels.

People respond to incentives. If you make it dangerous as fuck to ride your bike, then few people are going to ride to work.
 

techs

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http://quezi.com/14977

Total Prevalence of Diabetes in the United States, All Ages, 2010

Total: 25.8 million people – 8.3% percent of the U.S. population has diabetes.
Diagnosed diabetes: 18.8 million people
Undiagnosed diabetes: 7.0 million people


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12324979



population of japan 128 million / 12 million is 15%
Ah, I see you are putting together two different studies.

http://aadi.joslin.org/content/asian/why-are-asians-higher-risk-diabetes
Asians have a genetic predisposition to diabetes. Also, eating white rice, a "refined" carbohydrate has been shown to also be a factor in higher diabetes percentages.

It also turns out that Asians who are even slighty overweight have a far higher incidence of diabetes. In other words they get diabetes more easly once they start getting overweight.

And yes, refined carbohydrates are also a factor in diabetes. Hence the recommendation that if you want reduce your risk of diabetes "go brown" as in whole wheat breads and pastas.

I am pretty amazed that you are actually contesting the relationship with being overweight and getting diabetes. Do you believe Jesus rode a dinosaur?
 

Train

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Are American's just lazier and stupider than Europeans, or something? I'm saying that fucked up government policies are at fault. You are saying that Americans are less virtuous.

Why do you hate America?

Not sure if serious. But it appears that's a yes to my question.

I only hate fat America.
 

Theshawty

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I am European, and a bit overweight. Haven't really reached the "fat" stage yet, but I'm sliding there if things don't change.

I have no motivation to exercise, even though I hate looking like this. I'm approximately 200 pounds in weight, and approximately 5 foot 7 in length.

Tips? I hardly eat candy, just overconsuming that vile but heavenly tasting drink otherwise known as Coca Cola (Pepsi's alright too)
 

pelov

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You guys are taking this overboard. There's a reason the middle B in BBW stands for beautiful.

 
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