Faulty 750Ti (within warranty) vs Asus and Amazon UK

mikeymikec

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This situation has really annoyed me, and despite me spending a fair bit of time trying to convince both parties to pull their finger out and actually help me get something done about this, I'm torn between binning a faulty card that is still within warranty and sticking to my guns and getting the service I'm entitled to by the manufacturer's warranty.

The card has some intermittent faults: Sometimes giving graphics corruptions during gaming, sometimes BSOD'ing or freezing the system after resuming from S3 sleep, sometimes 2D graphics corruptions after resuming from sleep mode. Asus tech support have already said that they think the product is faulty. After this admission, one would think that it should be a simple matter to get it returned to them and sorted; apparently not.

Asus says that I have to return the card to the supplier I purchased it from (Amazon UK), then the supplier sends it back to them for repair/replacement. I've personally never encountered this behaviour from a manufacturer out of the ~10 returns I've done in the past (though this is my first with Asus).

Amazon UK have simply sent me a stream of fertiliser-grade responses from beginning to end about why this isn't their problem. They began by stating that the product isn't within warranty. I proved that it was by sending them a link to Asus UK's graphics card warranty terms, so they dropped that argument and started saying that because it's not an inherent design fault affecting all of that model, it's not their problem. There were other weird arguments as well, but no matter what I did (including filing a complaint), they've stuck to their guns. It's really odd that Amazon have acted like this because normally they've got a pretty open returns policy, much more flexible than most. In January last year, Amazon gave me a £55 voucher to try and make me go away, and I asked them to remove it from my account but they won't.

Even in light of Amazon's response, Asus's stance remains the same.

I tried talking to Trading Standards (one state-funded organisation here to investigate iffy trading behaviour) and the Citizen's Advice Bureau, and based on the advice of the latter, my credit card company as well. No-one is willing to comment about whose responsibility this problem actually is, and the credit card company disagrees with the CAB's interpretation of the law about the credit card supplier's obligations in all of this. It's like everyone wants to point the finger at someone else, and all Trading Standards had to say is "we've filed your complaint in our records". I also tried some Trading Ombudsman, but they only wanted to take up my case if I wanted to take up the case explicitly against Amazon What I wanted was to find out who isn't living up to their obligation and take their to account for it, at least by having them sort out this graphics card!

The only bit of information I feel I can take away from this experience is that I won't trust Amazon with any high-value item that has a longer than minimum warranty, just in case the manufacturer tries something like this again. I've also ruled out Asus for graphics card purchases in future.

I just wondered if anyone has had a similar scenario but with a better result, and if so, what did you do.
 

cfenton

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Wow, this sounds like a mess. Have you tried tracking down the warranty statement for your card? That should give a somewhat detailed account of how the warranty is supposed to work. I've never heard of a manufacturer requiring a product to be sent back to the retailer (unless maybe it's DOA and you can get faster service that way). I can understand why Amazon wants nothing to do with this, as they'd probably be stuck with a broken product unless they have some arrangement with ASUS. If ASUS wants you to send it back to Amazon, then they should set that up for you, or at least put you in contact with someone at Amazon who can help.
 

LTC8K6

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Take the 55 pounds and use it for something and move on with your life. Chalk it up to life lessons.
That's what I'd do at this point.The card is not worth all of the time and aggravation.
 

kawi6rr

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He shouldn't have too chalk it up and move on. If the card is under warranty and is faulty then Asus needs to honor that warranty, that's what warranties are there for.
 

LTC8K6

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He shouldn't have too chalk it up and move on. If the card is under warranty and is faulty then Asus needs to honor that warranty, that's what warranties are there for.
He's been working on this for well over a year, though. If Amazon sent him the "go away" voucher in January of 2016, then this has been going on for quite a while.

I must say that I have never had a problem returning anything to Amazon, and I'm quite surprised that they would act this way.
Generally, merely saying I have a problem has been enough to get them to send a replacement item.
A few times Amazon has not even required me to return items, and have just sent replacements.

I think something has just gone wrong here with the return, and it's not fixable for whatever reason. Something has got crossed up.
 

VirtualLarry

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Yeah, some vendors, don't offer a direct-to-consumer warranty, they require the component to be sent "upstream" through their distribution chain.

I think that Amazon UK is either unfamiliar with this warranty policy with their vendors, or simply does not want to help you pursue warranty claims.

That said, I'm in the USofA, but I think that the Asus warranty is the same: return to retailer.
 

SirCanealot

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It really doesn't surprise me you're having such problems with Amazon UK. I ordered a £200 set of speakers over the x-mas period and they had to send it out 3 times for me to actually get the item and all I got was a £15 voucher. They basically ignored my complaints. Had another issue with their address wizard and again they ignored me basically.

Hope you get somewhere with your issue
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Put in a box without a return address, with a note explaining the situation, then issue a chargeback via your bank/credit card company for services not rendered?
 

LTC8K6

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Put in a box without a return address, with a note explaining the situation, then issue a chargeback via your bank/credit card company for services not rendered?
These days, mailing a box without a return address = terrorist.

So you likely don't want to try that...
 

ReignQuake

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I had an Logitech G710+ Mechanical Keyboard which had 12 broken keys. I treated that thing like a baby and kept it clean but the keys cracked after putting them back in for the third time, with the proper tools. Logitech weren't offering replacement keycaps and said to deal with the retailer.

Amazon UK took the keyboard and gave me my money back after 11 months, I was blown away. I don't understand why they're being so bad for the OP.
 

mikeymikec

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Amazon UK took the keyboard and gave me my money back after 11 months, I was blown away. I don't understand why they're being so bad for the OP.

All the returns I've done within the first year with Amazon have gone without a hitch. I have a feeling that they're problematic after the first year, perhaps because they sell their own warranties.
 
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