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kru

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what was the name of that transformer that was a total ripoff from the robotech series? you know...the valkyrie/vtech one?
 

jonnyGURU

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Ah yes.

Transformers.

You know, they are more than what meets the eye.

Autobots were made to destroy the evil forces of the Decipticons.

Remember Gobots?

*shudder*
 

piku

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The ripoff was Jetfire.

It wasn't really a ripoff though - I think they really did get permission to use it in the Transformers
 

Spoooon

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Farbio:

<< man, i know, i cried the first time i saw the movie...i couldn't believe optimus dies >>



Yeah, I cried too. I'm not ashamed to admit it. But Grimlock still kicks ass.
 

chris43

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wow im really impressed
I thought i was the only one around that liked the tranformers
I dont care which one is your favorite,I like them all
One of the best cartoons made, I rate it with Xmen also a good one
Its just interresting to know that there is more people out there that can admit to liking a cartoon,just because its good.
you guys made my day
chris
 

Optimus

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Hey - how did I miss this thread this long?

OK - my favorite CHARACTER should be obvious...

But my favorite toy was and is Jetfire. I have him standing on display right here, and I have his box and all his parts in mint condition. Prime is standing right beside him along with dozens more... and my wife says I never grew up!

He IS a Valkrie from Robotech/Macross - an Officer's fighter by the armour and twin cannons on his head (Roy and later Rick flew this type). He was licensed for repackaging and resale in North America from Bandai and even has Bandai stamped on him. I think all the original Transformers were relicensed toys from Takara and other Japanese companies.
 

guyver01

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Actually Jetfire was a repackaged Takara Valkrye... and even a few of the produced pieces even has &quot;UN SPACY&quot; and the 'Robotech' symbol as stickers on them. I even saw one that had the Skull Squadron logo on the cockpit shield.

All in All, it was a copy of the Japanese 1:55 scale Super Valkyrie. Many of Hasbro's first line of Transformers were copies of Japanese toys from various anime series and toy companies, including the Super Valkyrie, renamed to &quot;Jetfire.&quot; The existence of this toy in America caused headaches for Matchbox when they were creating their Robotech line of toys, because they could not create their own transforming version of the Veritech. Also found this online:

Why is Jetfire just like a Robotech Veritech fighter?

Technically, it's a Macross Valkyrie, as the Robotech show was a
derivative of three separate Anime series: Macross, Southern Cross, and
Mospeada. Hasbro felt that the Autobots were too short on air power,
and their search for a cool airplane toy came up with Bandai's Valkyrie.
To leave a lot of legal technicalities out, Hasbro and Harmony Gold (who
released Robotech in America), as well as a few other companies (like
FASA, the makers of Battletech) bought the rights to use that &quot;shape&quot; of
robot, and Jetfire was born.

There has been some debate on exactly what model of Valkyrie Jetfire is.
His body and head match the VF-1S, although there was no VF-1S with
Jetfire's coloring in the series. There was a special edition release
of Valkyrie toys to accompany &quot;Macross: The Movie&quot;, in which Hikaru
(Rick Hunter) flew a white VF-1S with red and black trim. Although the
colors are Jetfire's, their placement is reversed -- that is, black
where Jetfire has red, and red where he has black. The Super Armor for
movie edition Valkyries was red but their eye strips were green. Also,
Fokker's &quot;skull special&quot; Valkyrie was a VF-1S with black and yellow
paint. Change the yellow to red, and paint the nosecone, and you have
Jetfire. So, although there are a few close cousins, there was never a
Valkyrie that looked /just/ like Jetfire in Macross.

Since he was based on a Macross toy, some Jetfires have a small Macross
symbol (a circle with a double-winged thingy inside) on one wing along
the red stripe. Some toys have this symbol painted on, some have it as
a sticker, and some do not have it at all.
 

The Wildcard

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Hey AquaMan, i like Bumblebee too and Soundwave kicked some butt too.

But in the end, JAZZ is the man.
 

atom

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Oct 18, 1999
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Heh, I still have my old jetfire toy. Still has a skull sticker on it.
 

SiberianTiger

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i agree with my bro.
jetfire was the coolest.
ultra magnus was suave
i love the dinobots (esp when slag (?) busted the door in the movie and said &quot;excuse me&quot

i think the weirdest thing is when things transform into different sizes. like megatron (a full transformer) can turn into a gun that can fit into your hand. others include soundwave and his crew, perceptor, and astrotrain. or when optimus prime transforms into the semi and his trailer automatically appears. haha.
 

KingHam

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After the last Transformers thread I missed my old Optimus Prime (that my mom threw away ) so much, that I actually bought a new one off of eb@y. Should be here Monday.

KingHam
 

Cable

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I liked Optimus, Soundwave, and the other transformer who could spit tapes out of his radio.

I miss that show.

I also rented the movie like a few weeks ago and I was blown away. Very stoked!

Check out my AIM NAME!
 

jonnyGURU

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Ah yes.

Macross. There's a blast from my past. Dammit, now I want to find the Macross shows so I can watch them again. And I don't mean the Harmony Gold Robotech series. I want SUB TITLES dammit!
 

geno

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Dec 26, 1999
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I'm watching the movie right now for old times sake - Optimus just died =(
 
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