FBI arrest a Moroccan "planning" a suicide attack on the U.S. Capitol

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Darwin333

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They are such incompetent idiots, we just cake-walked our way through Afghanistan and Iraq.



Oh, wait....

We did cake walk through the fucking them up part which is what a military is built for. Actually, we did that outstandingly well, it was the rest of the political bullshit they tasked out .mil with that we didn't do so well. I am sure you would agree that those two shitholes didn't actually give the true might of our .mil a run for their money.
 

iGas

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I for one am really glad that most of these people are idiots. Imagine how bad it would be if they were smart. Then again, if they weren't idiots they wouldn't be terrorists anyway.
Or, US president ie. GW Bush.
 

wirednuts

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abc news made this seem so over the top dangerous. this was some loser talking to an undercover cop about wanting to kill people (millions of us say we want to kill people). the cop then baited him into actually doing something about it, gave him a fake vest and arrested him. the feds do this from time to time to make it seem like progress is being made.

education stops terrorism
 

allenk09

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I guess Morocco is our next war target, do they produce a lot of oil or something?
 

halik

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I beg to differ that "the man was never a real threat". He was definitely a threat, but he got caught in the sting before he actually was able to carry out anything. Anyone who was "seeking assistance in executing a terrorist attack" is a threat and should be permanently in jail.

This,
if you're buying c4 and ball bearings vest to punish the inifidels, you will enjoy your the rest of your life behind bars.
 

Jaskalas

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Frankly I don't see what all the fuss about terrorists is about. Excluding 9/11 the vast majority of them fail badly.

Cannot have a police state and permanent martial law without an ever present threat. Slaves are safe and secure in the comfort of their master's arms.
 

zinfamous

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We did cake walk through the fucking them up part which is what a military is built for. Actually, we did that outstandingly well, it was the rest of the political bullshit they tasked out .mil with that we didn't do so well. I am sure you would agree that those two shitholes didn't actually give the true might of our .mil a run for their money.



Not even Alexander the Great could conquer Afghanistan. The hubris of assumption is the worst fucking trait of any kind of military strategy.

It sure looked like we ran roughshod over the talitalitaliban in Afghanistan, and the Cheney/Wolfowitz bot in charge of things screwed the pooch in the end, but we really don't know, do we? meaning--should we make such assumptions of what would have happened?

If our military were so overwhelmingly dominant, then those errors probably would have long been fixed, no? They aren't. Military strategy isn't simply going in and shooting shit up--and certainly not in a place like this. dealing with the criminals [that we put] in charge of Afghanistan is all part of the overall military strategy.
 

Darwin333

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Not even Alexander the Great could conquer Afghanistan. The hubris of assumption is the worst fucking trait of any kind of military strategy.

It sure looked like we ran roughshod over the talitalitaliban in Afghanistan, and the Cheney/Wolfowitz bot in charge of things screwed the pooch in the end, but we really don't know, do we? meaning--should we make such assumptions of what would have happened?

If our military were so overwhelmingly dominant, then those errors probably would have long been fixed, no? They aren't. Military strategy isn't simply going in and shooting shit up--and certainly not in a place like this. dealing with the criminals [that we put] in charge of Afghanistan is all part of the overall military strategy.

Military might is determined by killing people and blowing their shit up. We are exceptionally good at that and were exceptionally good at it in both Afghan and Iraq. Our military, who is trained to kill people and blow shit up, aren't very good at being police officers in foreign countries it appears. However, their skills at policing have nothing to do with their skills at killing and blowing shit up.

Look at the utter fuckedupedness of the Iraq "war". How long did it take us to actually beat their military, a few weeks or something?
 

cybrsage

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I guess Morocco is our next war target, do they produce a lot of oil or something?

They are close to Africa, so we have to remove their government and give the island to the closest nation to it. Anything less means we are evil people who want an empire and want to deprive the Malvinas from being owned by their rightful....oh wait, sorry, got the idiotic rants messed up, my bad.

Ummm...no, they don't produce oil. Not sure why Obama would want to bomb them. Must be a fluke or something.
 

cybrsage

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why did they even let him near the capitol?

just arrest him when he accepted the gun and fake bomb vest?

Extra charges. It takes 500 years worth of charges to get someone in jail for a dozen years...unless it is drugs.

They should have slipped some pot in the vest and then "found" it when they arrested him. He would easily do 50 years for the combined offenses then.
 

Darwin333

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Extra charges. It takes 500 years worth of charges to get someone in jail for a dozen years...unless it is drugs.

They should have slipped some pot in the vest and then "found" it when they arrested him. He would easily do 50 years for the combined offenses then.

I admit my ignorance on the complexities of our justice system so I apologize for the question, are you bullshiting?
 

cybrsage

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I admit my ignorance on the complexities of our justice system so I apologize for the question, are you bullshiting?


I am exaggerating a bit. The reality is that drug charges get you a LOT of time compared to other types of crimes. About a decade ago, things changed for the better wrt violent crimes and prison time:

Murder and Manslaughter


Offenders who have been sentenced to prison for murder or manslaughter will serve an average of 19.1 years in prison under the minimum 85% of sentence served policy compared to 13.1 years under the old parole system and 12.2 years when early prison release existed (chart 8).
Murder and manslaughter offenders sentenced to prison in FY2003-2004 will serve an average of 20.5 years, compared to 12.2 years in FY1980-1981 and 9.8 years in FY1987-1988 (chart 9). Offenders convicted today of Second Degree Murder will serve more time in prison today, 21.6 years. They will serve significantly more time than the low of 6.5 years in FY1986-1987 (chart 11).

Robbery


Robbery offenders entering prison in FY2003-2004 will serve an average of 7.5 years compared to a low of 2.0 years in FY1987-1988 (chart 16). Offenders convicted of armed robbery will serve more prison time today, 10.1 years, than any time over the past 25 years and they will serve significantly more time today than the low of 2.8 years in FY1987-1988 (chart 17).
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/timeserv/annual/section2.html

In 1987, murder got you 6.5 years in prison and robbery only got you 2.8 years. This is all from Florida, but it is a nationwide trend.

A drug charge got people 3 years in prison for each count...and it is easy to get multiple counts for one arrest.
http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/inc_federalprisonpop.pdf

It is also far easier to convict on drug charges. You simply show the drugs and show the arrest and you convict. Other crimes are harder to prove.
 
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