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LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Yes let's look at brexit, where the polls showed 'leave' as a toss up or even ahead before the vote. Pundits disagreed, polls didn't.

And no, you haven't been right in basically any discussion we've had that involves statistics. It's abundantly clear that you not only don't know how to run them, you don't even know how to read them. You're incompetent.

Sure I have, you just get me on some miswording or such. It's okay, I know you can't help it.

Anyway, see you in 11 days. I am prepared to eat crow, but are you?
 

flexy

Diamond Member
Sep 28, 2001
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Sexting, underage girls, penis pics, corruption, voter flips, Parkinsons, googly eyes, child molester, rapist, con artist, scam university: THIS ELECTION IS A FUCKING BLAST, that much is sure!
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Sure I have, you just get me on some miswording or such. It's okay, I know you can't help it.

Anyway, see you in 11 days. I am prepared to eat crow, but are you?

Sure! My prediction is simply the one based on the overwhelming majority of the evidence. Yours is based on emotion and wishful thinking. If my prediction is wrong, it's wrong. The outcome is less important than the process you use to come to your position. One is based in evidence and the other isn't.
 

OrByte

Diamond Member
Jul 21, 2000
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lol, so he might have grabbed a butt here or there, how awful. That's never happened in the history of history.

The only people really offended by that are SJWs, beta males, and ugly women.

I've seen more "sexual assaults" happen at bars in NYC in a span of 2 hrs.
oh man...

that is awful and I'm no SJW..I'm also not a beta male or an ugly woman.

As for the OP. Is HRC in any trouble yet? like legally?
 

echo4747

Golden Member
Jun 22, 2005
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Sexting, underage girls, penis pics, corruption, voter flips, Parkinsons, googly eyes, child molester, rapist, con artist, scam university: THIS ELECTION IS A FUCKING BLAST, that much is sure!

Wouldn't it be some something if both Bill/Hillary Clinton were done in... because of a "weiner"
 
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yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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lol, so he might have grabbed a butt here or there, how awful. That's never happened in the history of history.

The only people really offended by that are SJWs, beta males, and ugly women.

I've seen more "sexual assaults" happen at bars in NYC in a span of 2 hrs.
What the fuck, dude?
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
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So you're saying you agree that he would be found guilty in a court of law if he tried your excuse? Case closed then.

You're strawmanning really hard, but what I was trying to get at, was you are misrepresenting what he said. It's bad enough what he said that you don't even have to misrepresent it, so why are you doing it?
 

echo4747

Golden Member
Jun 22, 2005
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I would think if the Clinton campaign has any surprises for Trump expect it sometime tonight ... to detract from this story all weekend
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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You're strawmanning really hard, but what I was trying to get at, was you are misrepresenting what he said. It's bad enough what he said that you don't even have to misrepresent it, so why are you doing it?

I'm not misrepresenting it at all, and what you said earlier proved it. It doesn't matter if he KNEW what he was doing was sexual assault, what he was describing was sexual assault. It would in fact be misrepresenting it to ignore that fact.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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No, not even close. The sender would have to know the information was classified when sent.

I didn't know that. So if a person does transmit classified material to a person that doesn't have the clearance to have it all they have to do is reasonably show that they didn't know it was classified? I always thought that classified stuff was marked as such or if classified in the future anyone with access was made aware of the classification. It would seem pretty incompetant not to and kind of make classifying the material pointless, then again it is the federal government so incompetence isn't all that far fetched.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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and lk will skulk back into his alpha-hole... jesus, what a reprehensible asshole, his wife is a lucky, lucky gal.
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
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I'm not misrepresenting it at all, and what you said earlier proved it. It doesn't matter if he KNEW what he was doing was sexual assault, what he was describing was sexual assault. It would in fact be misrepresenting it to ignore that fact.

No. Grabbing a woman by the pussy is not sexual assault.

Grabbing a woman by the pussy, who did not want to be grabbed by the pussy. Is sexual assault.

Him saying he grabbed woman by the pussy, would only be sexual assault, if there was a woman who was grabbed by the pussy, and went to the police, and said that they were sexually assaulted, and then they have that tape as evidence.

Do you not get it? What you are trying to say is sex is rape. No... rape is a certain set of circumstances ABOUT sex, that makes it rape. He admitted to having sex. It takes the rest of the story to make it rape.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I didn't know that. So if a person does transmit classified material to a person that doesn't have the clearance to have it all they have to do is reasonably show that they didn't know it was classified? I always thought that classified stuff was marked as such or if classified in the future anyone with access was made aware of the classification. It would seem pretty incompetant not to and kind of make classifying the material pointless, then again it is the federal government so incompetence isn't all that far fetched.

That's not really how classified information works in a lot of cases. There are lots of things that are generated by the government that are very clearly marked. There are also other situations where that would be impossible.

Valerie Plame, for example. Her identity was still classified even when it was in the newspapers. If a reporter notices US troops somewhere and reports on it that's very likely classified too despite it being in the news. Because of things like this you have almost certainly transmitted classified information yourself during your life, but you certainly shouldn't be prosecuted for it.

In short, some types of classified information can be absolutely controlled. Most of it, especially world events info, can't be.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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No. Grabbing a woman by the pussy is not sexual assault.

Grabbing a woman by the pussy, who did not want to be grabbed by the pussy. Is sexual assault.

Him saying he grabbed woman by the pussy, would only be sexual assault, if there was a woman who was grabbed by the pussy, and went to the police, and said that they were sexually assaulted, and then they have that tape as evidence.

Do you not get it? What you are trying to say is sex is rape. No... rape is a certain set of circumstances ABOUT sex, that makes it rape. He admitted to having sex. It takes the rest of the story to make it rape.

Exactly. He talked about grabbing women without obtaining consent first as if it were a common thing. No reasonable person would think that every woman he grabbed wanted to be grabbed.

Not sure what the confusion is here.
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
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Exactly. He talked about grabbing women without obtaining consent first as if it were a common thing. No reasonable person would think that every woman he grabbed wanted to be grabbed.

Not sure what the confusion is here.

Whoah, hold on a minute, depends, on the state, but regardless, I GUARANTEE affirmative consent was not a law when those recordings were made. He may very well have had consent, and it's possible that many of those women who have come forward recently, have retracted their consent based on future findings of his political views, which is their right, but that doesn't change my argument!
 

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Lifer
Jun 3, 2002
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Impending loss? lol.

I am pretty confident you and your arrogant ass will be eating plenty of crow in 11 days.

I could be wrong, but I doubt I am.

"Could"? Lol. It's practically a law of nature at this point he's done, only question is whether it's slightly close or a blowout.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I didn't know that. So if a person does transmit classified material to a person that doesn't have the clearance to have it all they have to do is reasonably show that they didn't know it was classified? I always thought that classified stuff was marked as such or if classified in the future anyone with access was made aware of the classification. It would seem pretty incompetant not to and kind of make classifying the material pointless, then again it is the federal government so incompetence isn't all that far fetched.

There's a difference between classified information & classified documents. Information not marked as classified can reasonably be assumed to not be classified.

Sekrit squirrel security pinheads see it differentlly. Classified information about the drone program leaked to the NYT & splashed across the front page is still considered classified in those circles. Go figure.
 
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Nov 25, 2013
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lol, so he might have grabbed a butt here or there, how awful. That's never happened in the history of history.

The only people really offended by that are SJWs, beta males, and ugly women.

I've seen more "sexual assaults" happen at bars in NYC in a span of 2 hrs.

deplorable
 

senseamp

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Comey refused to even tell Congress if he is investigating the Trump-Manafort-Putin connection. But he is keeping them posted on everything even tangentially related to Clinton.
He is openly playing politics and not being impartial and has to resign. There really is no way around it.
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
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Comey refused to even tell Congress if he is investigating the Trump-Manafort-Putin connection. But he is keeping them posted on everything even tangentially related to Clinton.
He is openly playing politics and not being impartial and has to resign. There really is no way around it.

I think it was an inevitability that the judicial system would become too powerful for its own good, and its power would trump the legislative and executive branch because they hold the keys to the jail.

I think that the executive and legislative branches can probably bilaterally suspend all justice branch investigations until the justice branch itself is investigated. Russia must be stopped by any means necessary.
 
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