FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama admn approved nuclear deal

[UglyCasanova]

You’re denying that the Clinton Foundation took those donations??

 

[Jhhnn]

You’re denying that the Clinton Foundation took those donations??

Document that it happened. I've challenged you to do so more than once. Merely repeating the accusation doesn't do that.

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

 

[UglyCasanova]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Hell even your Snopes ( ) link says the Clinton Foundation accepted donations from them, it just splits hairs on the timing

 

[Jhhnn]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Hell even your Snopes ( ) link says the Clinton Foundation accepted donations from them, it just splits hairs on the timing

We've been through this. The Hill article rests on mere accusation. In the NYT piece "them" is not Russians but rather Canadians & Americans having an interest in the Uranium One deal. They're not Russian "scientists", Russian "officials" or Russian anybody.

I do love the way that right wing rags manage to represent donations to a bona fide charity as somehow nefarious.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Hell even your Snopes ( ) link says the Clinton Foundation accepted donations from them, it just splits hairs on the timing

Timing is pretty much the difference between coincidence and influence wouldn't you say?

Besides. It still doesn't address the fundamental flaw in this argument which is the fact that 9 agencies had to approve of this. 9. So bribe one person who wasn't even in the position or foresaw as being in it over $140 million but take a chance the other 8 say no?

 

[fskimospy]

Is there a reason you can’t answer the simple question on why the Clinton Foundation was receiving millions from Russian nuclear officials prior to the Uranium One deal? That’s pretty strange...

It’s been answered repeatedly, by your own links no less. It’s strange how invested you’ve become in this and how convinced you are of corruption considering the complete lack of any evidence of wrongdoing.

I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve asked you for the simplest possible thing: you say corruption, so tell us what you are alleging. How could it be any simpler than that? Give us an even remotely plausible money -> uranium path.

If you can’t do that this should be a flashing red sign that you aren’t approaching this rationally.

 

[Jhhnn]

Timing is pretty much the difference between coincidence and influence wouldn't you say?

Besides. It still doesn't address the fundamental flaw in this argument which is the fact that 9 agencies had to approve of this. 9. So bribe one person who wasn't even in the position or foresaw as being in it over $140 million but take a chance the other 8 say no?

There's also the small matter of official approval from the Canadian Govt & the S African stock exchange.

When it comes to the Clintons, the right wing begins from the assumption that they must be crooked & speculates from there.

 

[fskimospy]

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Hell even your Snopes ( ) link says the Clinton Foundation accepted donations from them, it just splits hairs on the timing

Unmmm, those ‘split hairs’ seem to completely destroy your narrative (at least the tiny amount of narrative you seem to have been clear on)

 

[UglyCasanova]

It’s been answered repeatedly, by your own links no less.

Forgive me, I’m a bumbling idiot and must have missed it. What’s the answer? Why would the Clinton Foundation be receiving millions from parties interested in the Uranium One deal? If it’s in the article it should be a simple copy/paste. Again, my iq is merely double digits so please spell it out for me. If not one could only assume the answer is something you might not like, no?

 

[fskimospy]

Forgive me, I’m a bumbling idiot and must have missed it. What’s the answer? Why would the Clinton Foundation be receiving millions from parties interested in the Uranium One deal? If it’s in the article it should be a simple copy/paste. Again, my iq is merely double digits so please spell it out for me. If not one could only assume the answer is something you might not like, no?

You’re taking this really personally for some reason. If it turned out that something bad happened here that Clinton was involved with that’s fine by me, there’s just literally zero evidence for that. Because I am rational I don’t believe in things without evidence. That’s apparently not true for everyone here though, haha.

Speaking of spelling things out have you made any progress on spelling out the chain of events that you believe occurred here? If you’re not done with the whole thing you can just post what you have so far.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So you can’t answer the question, we’ve got that. Or more than likely you don’t like the answer. Anywhom I’m done, this is just going around in pointless circles.

New question, why did the Obama admin allow it to go through?

 

[Jhhnn]

Forgive me, I’m a bumbling idiot and must have missed it. What’s the answer? Why would the Clinton Foundation be receiving millions from parties interested in the Uranium One deal? If it’s in the article it should be a simple copy/paste. Again, my iq is merely double digits so please spell it out for me. If not one could only assume the answer is something you might not like, no?

Now you're shifting the goalposts. It's been acknowledged that people interested in the Uranium One deal made contributions. So what? A lot of rich people did the same to the tune of nearly $2B. Why? Probably because they trusted the CF to use it for honest charity, which they have done.

As has been pointed out it was impossible for the Clintons to exercise undue influence over the deal, anyway. The people who contributed to the CF knew it, too.

 

[Jhhnn]

So you can’t answer the question, we’ve got that. Or more than likely you don’t like the answer. Anywhom I’m done, this is just going around in pointless circles.

New question, why did the Obama admin allow it to go through?

The only pointless circles have been your own. You as much as admitted that the accusation that Russian officials contributed to the CFwas mistaken. You still want to believe it, of course, so you'll divert onto a parallel slime track.

Must have been the Kenyan Muslim voodoo time warp mind control that Obama is so famous for... a giant conspiracy involving nine departments of the US govt, the Canadian govt & the S African stock exchange.

Or maybe it's just the right wing noise machine stroking the all too receptive erroneous zones of your mind... over & over again...

 

[J.Wilkins]

You’re denying that the Clinton Foundation took those donations??

A Foundation does not "take" donations, does it?

Unlike the Trump foundation the money are inaccessible by the Clintons and cannot be used, as was the case with the phony Trump foundation, to enrich themselves.

I'm just curious why the Trump foundation which was absolutely illegal hasn't led to a felony charge which would be the case of someone else had defrauded donators with a sham foundation that existed only to enrich the keepers of the foundation?

Too rich to be charged? In the US rich people are way above the law?

 

[Victorian Gray]

So you can’t answer the question, we’ve got that. Or more than likely you don’t like the answer. Anywhom I’m done, this is just going around in pointless circles.

New question, why did the Obama admin allow it to go through?

Because he's Kenyan?

 

[fskimospy]

So you can’t answer the question, we’ve got that. Or more than likely you don’t like the answer. Anywhom I’m done, this is just going around in pointless circles.

New question, why did the Obama admin allow it to go through?

So you’re complaining about people not answering questions while refusing to answer a basic question about five times now. I’m sure you recognize the hypocrisy.

It’s not pointless circles, it’s you unable to back up your bullshit.

 

[ivwshane]

Here is an update to the story and its obvious what was going on.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-acted-as-russian-spy-moved-closer-to-hillary


The Russians were trying to bait and get inside access with the Clinton's in the same way they gained access and baited trump.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here is an update to the story and its obvious what was going on.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-acted-as-russian-spy-moved-closer-to-hillary


The Russians were trying to bait and get inside access with the Clinton's in the same way they gained access and baited trump.

In no way does that support the original allegation-

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

 

[fskimospy]

Dp

 

[ivwshane]

In no way does that support the original allegation-

I'm well aware of that which is why I posted it. People are trying to jump to conclusions that just aren't there.

 

[UglyCasanova]

So you’re complaining about people not answering questions while refusing to answer a basic question about five times now. I’m sure you recognize the hypocrisy.

It’s not pointless circles, it’s you unable to back up your bullshit.

What is the question you want me to answer, what I think happened? Where there’s smoke there’s generally fire. Yes I think there was corruption involved, and yes I believe Clinton is fully aware.

Now, why would the Clinton Foundation accept millions in donations from Russian nuclear officials. Easy question.

 

[fskimospy]

What is the question you want me to answer, what I think happened? Where there’s smoke there’s generally fire. Yes I think there was corruption involved, and yes I believe Clinton is fully aware.

You are still not answering what should be a very very easy question. Please give us a high level, even remotely plausible chain of events that takes us from money -> corrupt action -> results.

You have made it abundantly clear you can’t do this because the whole thing you’re alleging makes no sense.

Now, why would the Clinton Foundation accept millions in donations from Russian nuclear officials. Easy question.

I already answered it pages ago. It’s almost like they were trying to cure world hunger or something.

You’re right, that was an easy question. Now please answer mine.

 

[jmagg]

That Russia, so altruistic.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You are still not answering what should be a very very easy question. Please give us a high level, even remotely plausible chain of events that takes us from money -> corrupt action -> results.

You have made it abundantly clear you can’t do this because the whole thing you’re alleging makes no sense.



I already answered it pages ago. It’s almost like they were trying to cure world hunger or something.

You’re right, that was an easy question. Now please answer mine.

People associated with the deal donated millions to the Clinton Foundation in an attempt to curry favor with the Secretary of State for a favorable outcome.

What post number was your answer to my question? You keep saying you answered it but I’m a bumbling idiot so missed it.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

People associated with the deal donated millions to the Clinton Foundation in an attempt to curry favor with the Secretary of State for a favorable outcome.

What post number was your answer to my question? You keep saying you answered it but I’m a bumbling idiot so missed it.

What about the 8 other agencies and two countries that also had to be on board? You think it's reasonable that put that much into Clinton and ignored the rest who could also sink the matter?