FC-PGA2 Tualatin Converter for S370 MB, $9.99

[necromancyr]

For people having issues with the handles, try putting the adapter in without anything in it and its handle fully mobile - then lock down the MB handle and go from there. Be careful putting on your HSF though...my Gorb doesn't even (can't actually) twist any longer - just putting it on tightens it down because of the increased height of the IHS.

 

[Twingo]

Originally posted by: fr
This adapter will also modify voltage. The jumper settings are not documented, but I've managed to set it to different values from 1.3v all the way to 2.4v (!) just by trying different combinations.

Would you mind letting us know what you did with the jumpers to modify the voltage ?? I'm thinking I may need a nonstandard jumper setting to get the converter to work in my abit zm6 ... anyone try it with this board yet (or another ppga board) and get it to work ??

 

[fr]

Originally posted by: Twingo

Originally posted by: fr
This adapter will also modify voltage. The jumper settings are not documented, but I've managed to set it to different values from 1.3v all the way to 2.4v (!) just by trying different combinations.

Would you mind letting us know what you did with the jumpers to modify the voltage ?? I'm thinking I may need a nonstandard jumper setting to get the converter to work in my abit zm6 ... anyone try it with this board yet (or another ppga board) and get it to work ??

On the back of the packaging, do you see the jumper settings for "Coppermine" (should be on the bottom left)? Just set the jumpers according to that image, but just place the three ON THE LEFT SIDE ONLY. Don't put any jumpers on the right side. That gave me 1.65v default.

 

[Twingo]

thanks for the tip ... I'll try that out and see if I can get the thing to boot now

update: still not working. Tried with the three left jumpers on there and my board still won't boot with the adapter in it. I think I'm out of my league

 

[suprapsu]

I ordered this from hardwarecooling and I got it within 3 days after placing my order.
Right now I see that hardwarecooling is offering free shipping.

The adapter board works great on my Dell Computer. I upgraded from PIII 600Mhz to 1.1 Tually.

How great is that?

 

[Lestan]

Just got my adapter from Hardwarecooling (bummed that I missed out on the free shipping ^^^) and my retail 1.2 Tualeron from Newegg. Set the adapter jumpers for the Tualeron > fcpga1 setting, popped it in my Abit BM6 (which is a PPGA motherboard, not even fcpga1!!!), popped in the celly, and...it booted up fine. BIOS (TZ version) sees it as a PentiumIII 1187, and even got the voltage right at 1.5v. SiSoft Sandra benches it as a full blown Cel 1.2a with 256k ECC L2 cache. Easiest upgrade ever.

So I just upgraded my tertiary system from a cel 300a to a 1200a for $57 ($17 for adapter + shipping, $40 for the cpu + shipping). Thanks AT I love you guys!

 

[suprapsu]

My cousin has an compaq computer and I used a PPGA adapter and on top of that i used the tualatin fcpga adapter and was able to get 1.2 Ghz out of that computer. What is the most wonderful upgrade ever!!! Thanks anandtech.

 

[unclebud]

i would like to know the model number...
had an evo ep/sB slot that was acting all stank, so i just put the pIII 600 back in *shrugs*
tia

 

[mindless1]

These are now a Compgeek Special $8.50

 

[grant2]

I just used that strattoncomputer converter, and it seems to work pretty well.

Lucky for me, I happened to buy a celeron 1.2g... cuz my bh6 only supports multipliers up to 12x ... and i had to disable "stop on CPU speed error" ...

 

[deeznuts]

Originally posted by: grant2
I just used that strattoncomputer converter, and it seems to work pretty well.

Lucky for me, I happened to buy a celeron 1.2g... cuz my bh6 only supports multipliers up to 12x ... and i had to disable "stop on CPU speed error" ...

hey i have a bh6 too. i also have the 1.2 celly. does the fsb go up to 133? or are we stuck at 100?

 

[Mark5000]

Originally posted by: grant2
I just used that strattoncomputer converter, and it seems to work pretty well.

Lucky for me, I happened to buy a celeron 1.2g... cuz my bh6 only supports multipliers up to 12x ... and i had to disable "stop on CPU speed error" ...

BH6 will take a 1.4GHz Celeron with the converter you speak of. Mulitplier is locked on the cpu.

 

[mindless1]

So long as a board's bios doesn't try to halt when it gets confused about the CPU, or has the option to disable "stop on CPU speed error" (or different wording, same effect), ALL motherboards can logically run all multiplier versions of Celery Tualatin if they can run any at all. I write "logically" because the older a board gets, the more likely it'll have trouble supplying large currents, at low voltages. Some of you may find that attaching heatsinks to the mosfets prolongs the life of the motherboard.

 

[unclebud]

"Some of you may find that attaching heatsinks to the mosfets prolongs the life of the motherboard."
didn't know that! thanks!

 

[grant2]

Originally posted by: deeznuts
hey i have a bh6 too. i also have the 1.2 celly. does the fsb go up to 133? or are we stuck at 100?

The mobo will supply 133fsb, but for some strange reason doesn't give a 1/4 PCI divider, only 1/2 & 1/3. That means all your peripherals will run out of spec. (This caused me all sorts of headaches years ago, trying to run 124mhz bus speed, my IBM hd would corrupt data)

 

[grant2]

Originally posted by: Mark5000

BH6 will take a 1.4GHz Celeron with the converter you speak of. Mulitplier is locked on the cpu.

So you're saying that if i poppped a 1.4 in there, i'd get 13x & 14x as options in my bios? intriguing!

 

[mindless1]

Originally posted by: grant2

Originally posted by: Mark5000

BH6 will take a 1.4GHz Celeron with the converter you speak of. Mulitplier is locked on the cpu.

So you're saying that if i poppped a 1.4 in there, i'd get 13x & 14x as options in my bios? intriguing!

No, rather you have no options, no matter which CPU you use it will run at the factory-set multiplier or not run at all in any/every motherboard.

 

[grant2]

Originally posted by: mindless1
No, rather you have no options, no matter which CPU you use it will run at the factory-set multiplier or not run at all in any/every motherboard.

Well currently I have options from 4x -> 12x in my bios. Maybe it's magical?

 

[mindless1]

It's not magical, it's not really an option, and never was after the earliest stepping of Pentium 2 Katmai... after that chip, ALL of intel's CPUs have been multi-locked, no bios setting has an effect on the multiplier of any later intel chip, nor does bios support or lack thereof affect the potential to run a CPU with any multiplier. The only limit is if the motherboard manufacturer set the bios to "stop" (halt) when it can't make a 100% positive ID of the processor. That would be an arbitrary decision on their part, there is no technical reason to do that.

Simply because your bios has an option that says "multiplier" doesn't mean it can change the multiplier... it could have an option that says "make me an omelet" but you ain't gettin' no food either.

 

[0roo0roo]

i have 2 tually 1.1a @ 133bus. 1.1a is practically garranteed oc, the retail cooler is quite good too, not that it creates much heat to begin with. only get the higher clock speeds if your system can't handle overclocking. from what i remember they added some optimizations to the tually not on the cumines. def good upgrade for a p3/celly. 1.1a retail is probably still 40 something, really cheap.

systems recognize it as a 1.5ghz p2, kinda funny, one with some absurd 3x300mhz bus bull at boot, but in windows it verifies its running at 1.5ghz sandra benches supposed equiv to p4 2ghz.

p3 with 512cache would be kewl, but they cost too much