FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children

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L00PY

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Idiot sez: "You probably get orders of magnitude more mercury from eating a couple tuna rolls or driving by a coal power plant."

Then I show what you get from "eating a couple of tuna rolls":
http://www.pbs.org/now/science/mercuryinfish.html
6 ounces of tuna equates to about 52.7 micrograms

Versus what you get from a filling:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/docke...des/2006-4218s2-03.pdf
"160 to a high of 782 micrograms in the first week per filling"

Crickets, stupidity, or admit you were wrong?
One problem is tuna rolls don't use canned tuna. Ignoring the posts I made showing how high mercury levels can be in sushi today, take a look at the chart linked to in that PBS page you provided -- bigeye tuna mercury levels are nearly six times the level of canned light tuna. 6 times the number you provided is over 300 micrograms. One day on the low level you provided is 23 micrograms. Looks to be an order of magnitude larger to me.

And that PDF is a study on new fillings. It says the release rate on older fillings might be as low as 1-10 micrograms a day.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Mercury is bad, no doubt there.
Besides fillings, they need to get rid of it in light bulbs as well. I don't think most people that break compact florescent lights know how dangerous it can be.
http://www.epa.gov/hg/spills/#fluorescent


A reason I don't use these anywhere they might break, especially near children. I use them in overhead lights, etc, but not table lamps.


Mercury concentration in the study room air often exceeds the Maine Ambient Air Guideline (MAAG) of 300 nanograms per cubic meter (ng/m3) for some period of time, with short excursions over 25,000 ng/m3, sometimes over 50,000 ng/m3, and possibly over 100,000 ng/m3 from the breakage of a single compact fluorescent lamp. A short period of venting can, in most cases, significantly reduce the mercury air concentrations after breakage. Concentrations can sometimes rebound when rooms are no longer vented, particularly with certain types of lamps and during/after vacuuming. Mercury readings at the one foot height tend to be greater than at the five foot height in non vacuumed situations.

Although following the pre-study cleanup guidance produces visibly clean flooring surfaces for both wood and carpets (shag and short nap), all types of flooring surfaces tested can retain mercury sources even when visibly clean. Flooring surfaces, once visibly clean, can emit mercury immediately at the source that can be greater than 50,000 ng/m3. Flooring surfaces that still contain mercury sources emit more mercury when agitated than when not agitated. This mercury source in the carpeting has particular significance for children rolling around on a floor, babies crawling, or non mobile infants placed on the floor.

Cleaning up a broken CFL by vacuuming up the smaller debris particles in an un-vented room can elevate mercury concentrations over the MAAG in the room and it can linger at these levels for hours. Vacuuming tends to mix the air within the room such that the one foot and five foot heights are similar immediately after vacuuming. A vacuum can become contaminated by mercury such that it cannot be easily decontaminated. Vacuuming a carpet where a lamp has broken and been visibly cleaned up, even weeks after the cleanup, can elevate the mercury readings over the MAAG in an un-vented room.

The simple solution to the mercury in bulbs is to encase them in clear plastic. But the 1 cent more it would cost is more valuable to the manufacturers than our neurological health
 

Throckmorton

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Aug 23, 2007
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: cliftonite
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Mercury has been a known toxin for a very very long time

Other known toxins:

- Water
- Oxygen
- Salt
- Potassium
- Alcohol
- Acetaminophen (Tylenol)
- Penicillin
- Aspirin
- etc...

ZV

Um, no. Everything you've listed has clear benefits to humans in appropriate doses and is not toxic. Can you say the same for Mercury?

Yes actually. Mercury is a necessary component any fluorescent bulb and in appropriate doses is indeed absolutely safe.

ZV

I dont think anyone has put a flourescent bulb in their mouth.

If they break you breathe it in. If you drive by a coal plant you breathe it in. If you have fish for dinner you're probably eating it. Seriously, we get mercury from so many sources that getting a few filling during your ENTIRE life has to be WAY down on the list of sources.

But no, lets spend all our time ranting about a vast global conspiracy by the multinational tooth filling corporations.

And I'm surprised no one has brought up the poisoning effects of flouride. Man those dentists sure are evil!

wait are you really justifying using poisons because we may be exposed else where outside of our control....so "fuck it" why not purposely do it. what kind of ass backwards justification is that.

Please explain the purpose of fluoride in tap water while your at it.

I'm saying people seem to get the most wound up about things that pose the smallest risk of actual harm. The West Nile virus, Bird Flu, and SARS are other good examples.

Your cute little children are millions of times more likely to die by being mangled in a horrific crash on the way to the dentist than they are to experience any harm from getting a cavity fixed.

I'm not saying that it's not OK to have a discussion about POSSIBLE risks, but get a little perspective people. You don't have to freak out and act as if all the evil dentists get together and plot ways to kill little children. Geez. :roll:

edit: And Alchemize, did you wake up and decide it was "Act Like a Tool Day" or is this what you do every day? Switch to decaf or something, bro.

Mercury doesn't kill you. It causes brain damage. If you have the option between no damage, and slight brain damage that may clinically undectable, which do you choose? Death isn't one of the options.
 

Colt45

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Quicksilver is bad for you, but trace amounts really aren't anything to worry about.

 
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