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ChoppedBroccoli

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Originally posted by: IFICUDIWUD
Idont think i need to slipstream sp2. Its a new version of xp pro with the sp2 included

Did you try the F6 method of installing SATA drivers via floppy when the boot CD loads? Try that too.
 

redhatlinux

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Like others have posted, no sata drivers, no XP install. You have to find a way to get the drivers loaded. BTW not sure if your rig has floppy but Compusa had USB floppy drives on sale for less than $20 this past week-end.
 

Shaftatplanetquake

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Originally posted by: egkenny
Windows XP has had support for drives larger than 137GB for a long time. The Windows XP version I bought back in December 2002 had SP1 which had no problems with the 160GB and 250GB drives I have.

In Microsoft's infinite wisdom they hardcoded installing drivers during Windows installation by hitting the F6 key and inserting a floppy disk with these drivers. Since Windows XP does NOT have support for SATA controller drivers included with it you have no choice but to put the drivers on a floppy and insert that during installation. Everyone with the regular version of Windows XP is required to do this. The only exceptions are OEM restore CDs that have Windows XP and SATA drivers placed on them by the computer manufacturer.

There is at least one further exception: I'm not sure of the terminology, but some newer motherboards have native SATA support. The motherboard reads the SATA devices as regular primary/secondary/etc master drives and communicates that information directly. The operating system installation routine isn't smart enough to know the difference between a board with a configuration such as this and a generic PATA setup.

There may be BIOS options that need to be adjusted to make this work for you.

You need to either get lucky and guess the problem or go the (in my experiences... probably) quick route and swap most of the hardware with items that you have in your testbed of parts.

Basically, currently you are spitballing to find the problem.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: redhatlinux
Like others have posted, no sata drivers, no XP install. You have to find a way to get the drivers loaded. BTW not sure if your rig has floppy but Compusa had USB floppy drives on sale for less than $20 this past week-end.
In his case, no SATA drivers = just fine. The chipset's native SATA controller emulates PATA and does not need drivers on floppy.

One aspect that has probably not been noticed yet: the board requires a PSU with a -5V line. Link to MSI's page for this mobo, see note at bottom

So IFICUDIWUD, you may want to start by returning that mobo or getting a different PSU. As far as I know of, none of Antec's ATX 2.0 models (SmartPower 2.0, TruePower 2.0) have a -5V, it does not get listed in their specs and you can confirm it by seeing if the main ATX cable has one missing wire and an empty hole in the 24-pin plug.

Beyond that, if I had your setup I would kick the memory voltage right up to 2.8 volts too. Good luck, hope that helps
 

Shaftatplanetquake

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
One aspect that has probably not been noticed yet: the board requires a PSU with a -5V line. Link to MSI's page for this mobo, see note at bottom

So IFICUDIWUD, you may want to start by returning that mobo or getting a different PSU. As far as I know of, none of Antec's ATX 2.0 models (SmartPower 2.0, TruePower 2.0) have a -5V, it does not get listed in their specs and you can confirm it by seeing if the main ATX cable has one missing wire and an empty hole in the 24-pin plug.

Beyond that, if I had your setup I would kick the memory voltage right up to 2.8 volts too. Good luck, hope that helps

Nice observation. I hope this truly is the problem so that you can get up and running ASAP!
 

Overkiller

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Originally posted by: Shaftatplanetquake
Originally posted by: egkenny
Windows XP has had support for drives larger than 137GB for a long time. The Windows XP version I bought back in December 2002 had SP1 which had no problems with the 160GB and 250GB drives I have.

In Microsoft's infinite wisdom they hardcoded installing drivers during Windows installation by hitting the F6 key and inserting a floppy disk with these drivers. Since Windows XP does NOT have support for SATA controller drivers included with it you have no choice but to put the drivers on a floppy and insert that during installation. Everyone with the regular version of Windows XP is required to do this. The only exceptions are OEM restore CDs that have Windows XP and SATA drivers placed on them by the computer manufacturer.

There is at least one further exception: I'm not sure of the terminology, but some newer motherboards have native SATA support. The motherboard reads the SATA devices as regular primary/secondary/etc master drives and communicates that information directly. The operating system installation routine isn't smart enough to know the difference between a board with a configuration such as this and a generic PATA setup.

There may be BIOS options that need to be adjusted to make this work for you.

You need to either get lucky and guess the problem or go the (in my experiences... probably) quick route and swap most of the hardware with items that you have in your testbed of parts.

Basically, currently you are spitballing to find the problem.



I have the Abit IC7-Max3 and I have never had to install sata drivers. I have 3 Sata Hd's
 

IFICUDIWUD

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I will check the 24 pin connector to see if it has a blank in it. In the meantime I've e-mailed Antec cust support to ask if the psu has a -5v line... Thanks for the help I'll let ya'll Know one way or another. And I'll change the memory voltage up to 2.8 when I get home from work in the morning :wine:
 

IFICUDIWUD

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I've done some research on the antec site and lo and behold there is no -5v line in this psu.. anybody wanna buy a nice power supply
I could sure use some help with recomendations for a psu for this board . MSI K8N Neo4 PLATINUM SLI (AMD):wine:
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: IFICUDIWUD
I've done some research on the antec site and lo and behold there is no -5v line in this psu.. anybody wanna buy a nice power supply
I could sure use some help with recomendations for a psu for this board . MSI K8N Neo4 PLATINUM SLI (AMD):wine:
I use the OCZ Powerstream 420w with my MSI K8N SLI and it is rock solid on all rails. It provides a 0.5A -5v as well.

 

egkenny

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: IFICUDIWUD
I've done some research on the antec site and lo and behold there is no -5v line in this psu.. anybody wanna buy a nice power supply
I could sure use some help with recomendations for a psu for this board . MSI K8N Neo4 PLATINUM SLI (AMD):wine:
I use the OCZ Powerstream 420w with my MSI K8N SLI and it is rock solid on all rails. It provides a 0.5A -5v as well.
Your power supply only has -5 volts because it comforms to the old ATX12V standard. My old Antec TruePower 550W has -5 volts too. Any power supply whether its OCZ or Antec that comforms to the new ATX12V v2 standard has -5 volts removed.
 

IFICUDIWUD

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I checked the pinout on my psu and there is an empty hole.. however i'll need a magnifying glass to read the pin numbers on the connector.. these od eyes aint what they used to be... even with glasses:wine:
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: egkenny
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: IFICUDIWUD
I've done some research on the antec site and lo and behold there is no -5v line in this psu.. anybody wanna buy a nice power supply
I could sure use some help with recomendations for a psu for this board . MSI K8N Neo4 PLATINUM SLI (AMD):wine:
I use the OCZ Powerstream 420w with my MSI K8N SLI and it is rock solid on all rails. It provides a 0.5A -5v as well.
Your power supply only has -5 volts because it comforms to the old ATX12V standard. My old Antec TruePower 550W has -5 volts too. Any power supply whether its OCZ or Antec that comforms to the new ATX12V v2 standard has -5 volts removed.
It works for all of the following, ATX, BTX, SATA, P4 and EPS12V, and all of the OCZ PowerStream PSUs are ATX 12v 2.0 compliant, with the 600w being 12v 2.01 compliant, and all have the -5v so you are mistaken about OCZ removing it to meet the spec.
 

IFICUDIWUD

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I ordered the powerstream 420... Thanks for the input.. as soon as it gets here ill let you know how it turns out:wine:
 
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