White boys don't get it. I once shared an office with an older Chinese guy in his early 60s. I asked him if he found the work "beloved patriot" offensive. I'm black and found that term offensive but he didn't. He proceeded to tell me "Chinaman" is highly offensive, which to me sounded benignoh you aren't black then? Why should you get to choose what is offensive or isnt? Why are you, a white man, so important?
The usual deplors willingly ignore context so they can continue to deny reality and sell it as some PC thing.The original linked article doesn't give much detail. It seems, from the student newspaper's more detailed account, that the trouble resulted far more from the angry arguments that blew up as a result of the discussions following the event, than from the banana peel business itself. It seems more that the banana peel thing just led to discussions that ignited tensions that already existed.
I'm very surprised anyone can be unaware of the potential symbolism of bananas (they've been used as a racist signifier for decades all over the world), but I'd also have thought that if there weren't deeper tensions already present, that a simple apology from the guy who stuck it in the tree, and an acknowledgement by white students that they understood how it could have been (mis)interpreted, would have settled the business.
But it sounds as if the discussion didn't go that way, and instead got increasingly rancorous.
Hence it seems inaccurate to claim that people 'cried' or 'ran away' from a banana peel. It sounds much more that a group of young people got stressed out and furious with each other due to a massive acrimonious row over race, that was just waiting to happen at some point (because it's Mississippi?)
Sure, their background is relevant. The problem is that this background is often used as a reason for why we should believe it when a person of color says a particular white person has done something for racist reasons, when in fact, no one's background qualifies them as mind readers. If you were raised in a black family where your parents told you that white people are generally racist, and that they would never accept you as equals, then one day you find yourself walking down the street in a white neighborhood and you notice some white guy eye-balling you, this background might explain why you infer that eye-balling as racist. Yet it doesn't make it actually true because there are a 10 reasons someone might be looking at you. Just like there are other, and more obvious, reasons someone would discard a banana than trying to make a racist statement. The question is, how much over-sensitivity do you tolerate based on someone's background? I think there's got to be a limit. Were these people repeatedly pelted with banana's by racists when they were kids? That might make it more understandable, but I suspect not. I suspect, rather, that that have been told to see racism wherever they look, and that is the real background here that is making them so sensitive. And that, in and of itself, is a larger problem.
Your last question is just silly. I could say the same thing about any number of things you or anyone else talks about on this board - it doesn't directly affect you. Which doesn't mean you have no opinion on it.
He referred to committed anarchists that loudly and convincingly proclaim their illiberal, unaffiliated ideas.
It doesn't matter if he didn't know what he said, he's an idiot for claiming that antifa is left wing when they are so very clearly and so very proudly part of no wing
well, the specific issue here is that the same campus went through this very same thing a year ago: directed, intentional displays of bananas in nooses when that black female was elected student body president. (is it the same campus? I thought someone mentioned that earlier, heh)
It's easy and perhaps understandable to think any random group of people are overreacting to a banana peal in a tree, but this situation actually has context, which is really quite important. Still doesn't mean this can't be an overreaction, but it's far easier, of course, to yell about snowflakes and ignore that they have an actual point. Because of context.
She said the image was especially disturbing in light of an incident on American University’s campus in May of this year. The morning Taylor Dumpson was to take over as the school’s first female black student government president, students found bananas hanging from nooses across campus. Some of the bananas were inscribed with references to Dumpson’s sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha.
figures the first two post are our two Canadian wingnuts who want to try spin a discarded banana peel that all white people are racist out to get the black man.
you two are pathetic.
He referred to committed anarchists that loudly and convincingly proclaim their illiberal, unaffiliated ideas.
It doesn't matter if he didn't know what he said, he's an idiot for claiming that antifa is left wing when they are so very clearly and so very proudly part of no wing
He didn't say anarchist
everybody is racist to some extent, including you.nobody said all white people are racist. You are racist though.
figures the first two post are our two Canadian wingnuts who want to try spin a discarded banana peel that all white people are racist out to get the black man.
you two are pathetic.
everybody is racist to some extent, including you.
everybody is racist to some extent, including you.
Dear Readers and Ugly Casnova, et. al.,
Unfortunately Zinnypooh does not recognize genius when he sees it, so he lashes out at things he does not understand. And because I said that I was okay with bananas, and feigned offense at apples to demonstrate the wackiness of this subject, he went full on fruity on me.
Never go full on fruity.
How did you come to be so proud of your ignorance? I am intrigued as to how that happens.
I'll let your local daycare know they can drop off their used diapers at your house. It's all biodegradable right?Oh no, a piece of discarded fruit remains will have to decompose! whatever will we do???
Come to think of it, my peach tree in my backyard left a bunch of peaches littered in my yard a few weeks back! I should chop that fucker down for littering!
Actually, they aren't. Sooo yeah, nice one broceritops. Might want to research that before you get cocky with itI'll let your local daycare know they can drop off their used diapers at your house. It's all biodegradable right?
figures the first two post are our two Canadian wingnuts who want to try spin a discarded banana peel that all white people are racist out to get the black man.
you two are pathetic.
the only bullshit is you and your troll posts.Bullshit.
Dear Readers and Ugly Casnova, et. al.,
Unfortunately Zinnypooh does not recognize genius when he sees it, so he lashes out at things he does not understand. And because I said that I was okay with bananas, and feigned offense at apples to demonstrate the wackiness of this subject, he went full on fruity on me.
Never go full on fruity.
Bullshit.
Outhouse seems to confuse tribalism with racism. Understandable: simple, binary thinkers have problems discerning nuance. I think it's true that all humans, by nature--like nearly all animals--have very tribal tendencies. But this is nothing like racism. Tribalism does not infer a belief in the clear inferiority/superiority of races compared to other races through a simple act of birth.
Might want to research the difference between hoomons littering and fruit trees propagating idiot. BTW, there are a shot ton of biodegradable diapers out there.Actually, they aren't. Sooo yeah, nice one broceritops. Might want to research that before you get cocky with it
Mono ethnic tribes most certainly engage in racism as part of their tribalism. As Tribalism works by dehumanizing the other tribes. The "others" are almost always deemed inferior.