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bigrash

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That was a crazy knockout by Fedor. Rogers was doing pretty good up until then. Don't know why he decided to slow down in the 2nd round.
 

OCNewbie

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I thought Rogers sounded like a sore loser when they interviewed him. "Things woulda been different IF..." etc. I was worried for Fedor, but he proved why he is the man.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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That was a crazy knockout by Fedor. Rogers was doing pretty good up until then. Don't know why he decided to slow down in the 2nd round.

The thing with Fedor is that its very difficult to find a good strategy against him. If you stand up, you get caught with his brutal punches and if you are on the floor then get ready for an arm-bar or choke-hold. I'm guessing that Rogers was struggling to find a good strategy against Fedor.

Rogers seemed very jittery in the first round and in the second it was like "Ok, I broke his nose now what should I do?"
 

anxi80

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Why doesn't Big John ref in the UFC anymore? Dana being a little bitch again?

a lot of ufc's event's are done in nevada and mccarthy's license renewal was not approved citing that the state already had enough licensed ref's. he is licensed in california, utah, ohio and certain parts of canada. in fact he could've been called upon during ufc's events in the staples center since he recently got his california license but guess he wasnt asked.
 

waggy

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Rogers was obviously gassed by the second round. It's why he dropped his hands.

So those other guys had stamina for 25 minutes while Roger had stamina for 7 minutes?

Someone needs to do HIIT.

first round Rogers blew his load. he thought he had Fedor in a spot to where he could end it.

these big men at 260 do not have the stamina someone 180 or so has. they are not going to go 100% for 5 rounds. just not going to happen.

I do think it was early stoppage. Rogers did have his hands around his face and trying to roll away. But i don't think it would have changed the outcome just prolonged it another 10 seconds or so.
 

RoloMather

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Well that knock to the chin jarred his brain, causing him to lose motor control and fall down.

The problem is that Fedor can kill Rogers during that slight period where Rogers wasn't quite recovered. All it really takes is a couple of full power punches to the undefended head to kill a person if you have that kind of punching power.

I agree that if the ref didn't stop it then, match would be over quickly after that.
 

Miramonti

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Great fight but was stopped early.

Rogers brought his leg up, as well as his hand to his face and turned away from Fedor. The fighter needs to continue defending himself, and that's exactly what Rogers was doing. He also talked to the ref immediately after the stoppage, surprised it was stopped. It is more audible on headphones.

Fighters have taken knockout blows like that and recovered after the initial thud by avoiding ensuing knockout shots long enough to shake off the rattling.

I think its obvious who the ref's fight night earnings were on.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Oct 22, 2003
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Not impressed. Fedor was getting hammered pretty good in the first round. I'm a big fan of Fedor but I think Lesnar can beat him.
 

lifeobry

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Rogers didn't look that gassed in the 2nd, but he probably was. Couldn't get up at one point in the 1st. Left himself wide open though.

Stoppage was correct, Rogers was done.

Fedor v. Brock. It must happen.
 

Woosta

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Not impressed. Fedor was getting hammered pretty good in the first round. I'm a big fan of Fedor but I think Lesnar can beat him.



Werdum, Overeem, Nog ( again ), Barnett, Couture could probably all do better than Mr. Lesnar can ( and Rogers did better too ).

I just love how people can that a guy whos bigger and younger than him can beat him, yet he continuously proves you guys wrong yet every single time you see some big guy who just recently wins a few fights you think he's actually a challenge for him.

I think Lesnar needs to defend his title maybe 5-6 times then he's proven himself a worthy contender for Fedor ( who has defended the WAMMA, and PRIDE heavyweight championships, undefeated ).

Oh well...

 
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jinduy

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after watching the fight it's still hard to imagine fedor being favored to beat brock... my main reason is due to the fact how rogers was able to successfully get on top of fedor to get some VERY clean shots at him... come on, fedor fans, you know you were sweating it a bit when rogers was pounding fedor on the ground (1:39 left in the 1st)...

lesnar's size advantage, once he covers you up on the ground, is a freaking huge obstacle to overcome and i'm not implying that brock is all size and no skill either...

with that said, i hope fedor beats his ass when/if they do meet
 
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randay

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fedors great and all, but hes far from invincible, and his management sucks donkey nuts. he has a real chance of going down as the biggest legend in the sport, hopefully he can get the chance to fight the ufc heavyweights before his time is up.
 

DangerAardvark

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I just watch that fight again. It's amazing what a well place right hand can do to some of the toughest fighters.
Up to that moment Arlovski was winning the fight but he got too careless.

That's Fedor's Anti-Aircraft Punch. It's basically a real life Shoryuken.
 

DangerAardvark

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after watching the fight it's still hard to imagine fedor being favored to beat brock... my main reason is due to the fact how rogers was able to successfully get on top of fedor to get some VERY clean shots at him... come on, fedor fans, you know you were sweating it a bit when rogers was pounding fedor on the ground (1:39 left in the 1st)...

lesnar's size advantage, once he covers you up on the ground, is a freaking huge obstacle to overcome and i'm not implying that brock is all size and no skill either...

with that said, i hope fedor beats his ass when/if they do meet

Yeah, Fedor took some nasty shots when Rogers got on top of him. Fedor has always had a tendency to get taken down and he doesn't have the best guard. Rogers did really well against him and a lot of that was sheer size advantage. Fedor's fighting in a division of giants and not the freakshow giants like that gigantic Korean he armbarred.
 

de8212

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Rogers was done.

He might want to give Sams a call to make sure his old position is available.
 

Nikamichi

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Great fight but was stopped early.

Rogers brought his leg up, as well as his hand to his face and turned away from Fedor. The fighter needs to continue defending himself, and that's exactly what Rogers was doing. He also talked to the ref immediately after the stoppage, surprised it was stopped. It is more audible on headphones.

Fighters have taken knockout blows like that and recovered after the initial thud by avoiding ensuing knockout shots long enough to shake off the rattling.

I think its obvious who the ref's fight night earnings were on.

When Rogers went down, his eyes rolled back. That's key, because at that point, the fight is usually over (unless the fighter makes a quick recovery and intelligently defends himself). Rogers leg went up toward his face because Fedor pushed it with his forearm on a missed punch. If you watched the replays, you'd see Rogers in the fetal position even after the fight was stopped. There was no way he was going to defend himself for another 5-10 seconds. Not with Fedor's ground and pound.
 
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OCNewbie

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Covering up like a turtle, or rolling away from the defender in the fetal position is NOT considered to be "intelligently" defending yourself. He was not completely unconscious, but that is not required to be considered finished in MMA, and for good reason. If a fighter is in trouble, and is likely going to take further abuse until the point of total loss of consciousness is achieved, then the ref should stop the fight, like he did in this case, and prevent the fighter from taking any unnecessary damage.
 

Ricochet

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When Rogers went down, his eyes rolled back. That's key, because at that point, the fight is usually over (unless the fighter makes a quick recovery and intelligently defends himself). Rogers leg went up toward his face because Fedor pushed it with his forearm on a missed punch. If you watched the replays, you'd see Rogers in the fetal position even after the fight was stopped. There was no way he was going to defend himself for another 5-10 seconds. Not with Fedor's ground and pound.

Exactly. He was still on the ground slowly recovering after the fight was over. If the ref had not stop the fight he would have been rocked hard. Right call by the ref.
 
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