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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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For the Repubs, Trump's disastrous tenure is much like the passing of a loved one who murdered somebody. First, ya got the shock and dismay phase. Then the denial, the feeling of loss, then the guilt that something more could have been done to prevent the crime and to keep the reaper at bay, then the feelings of sadness and reflection.

And all the while being convinced that this person couldn't have done what he did, that he was a good and honest man, that they could never be wrong about him, even after the deceased was on a rampage of deceit and criminal intent. Defend to the very end because "he was one of us". Apparently, no lessons learned from the Nixon era.

Being defensive has its merits, but you gotta know when to let go, admit an error in judgement was made and make the correct adjustments to prevent the enabling of another anti-social miscreant gone wild. Especially so when a guy like Trump comes along whose primary goal is to make the whole world see thing his way.

Alas history repeats itself to no end.
 
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Younigue

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2017
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Likewise (except later). With the ride Trump has had and his background, I don't really blame him. Instead of a massive party backed transition team with a solid year of who is going to go where if we win yadayadayda, it's Team Trump trying to work out WTF to do with the Reps who don't want him there hardly anymore than the Dems do. I'd long to be a Dictator too if I was Trump. He could start on that by dictating to himself to stop F'ing tweeting and just replace it with sleep if he needs to. This is going to keep up and we're going to get POTUS Pence. All these F'rs that have been hysteria whining about notReallyARep Trump are going to love POTUS Pence...

Too much to unpack there with your last two comments.

The creepiest part is you are very well spoken for a Trumpbot but a Trumpbot you are.

If you see only hysteria on the Dem side you are woefully ill equipped to do anything but stroke your life-size cardboard cut-out of Trump and assuring it that the meanies will one day pay.

I was just telling my husband the other night as we were star gazing that this is how Trumpublicans view their leader hoping that one day he will be their Dictator. What none of you seem to comprehend is that you will be in as much distress with a Trumptator as those of us who despise him. He loves you only for the rallies but that is where your usefulness concludes otherwise he hates you. As ignorant as he is one thing he does know is that anyone who loves him must be ignorant therefore used and abused.

America made itself a superpower. With that comes responsibility and obligation. The world stage matters. Being BFF's with someone who hates you... umm, have you personally ever tried to do that?

Any way, your comments though well written make me sick to my stomach. You haven't just drunk the kool-aid, you're sipping it with visible crazy-eyes over the rim of the cup. You also provide the necessary ingredients for the chef to make the grossest kool-aid ever but if you tell those who partake it's yummy they believe you even as their faces contort at its taste.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Roflmouth, thank you for furthering the progressive stance by representing the Republican party as pants-on-head crazy.


That doesn't play out like you want it. Nunes and Gowdy and a great many Republicans have intentionally diverted from Russians to unmasking. They sat there on the committee and challenged witness in an effort to do just that. Nunes snuck out to inform a potential person of interest in what was happening. The Mayor of London was in the midst if dealing with one the worst acts of terrorism in their history and says to his people that police are armed and that should not concern them. Trump attacked IN THE MIDDLE OF A TERRORIST SITUATION by completely misrepresenting, no lying about what the Mayor said. Finally some Republicans stood up and said "over the top" and they'll be defending Trump when Comey testifies.

If it isn't crazy it's an ugly and vile party.

After all that? Trump's approval rating among Republicans? 82%

You don't know your party like you think you do.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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Ease down Ripley, not my party. Just stating that Roflmouth's insistence on looking batty makes it ever easier for rational people to discard the Republican party.

I don't know what he is, real or troll. The problem is that he does represent Republicans, very real ones. Once there were leaders in the party I could respect. Some intellectuals I could understand and agreement wasn't necessary. Look at the video of Truman Capote and William Buckley discussing the death penalty and recall that wasn't some academic concern, Capote was personally involved with the people in the case and wrote "In Cold Blood".

People really should watch this.


Two people a universe apart in worldview and ideology. But they sat down and actually talked, discussed, communicated intelligently.

No such thing exists now. Indeed I don't know if any but a vanishingly small number of people can duplicate this process of reasonable and thoughtful discussion with people who do not like each other, don't see alike in many things, but realize that the topic has merit beyond individual or institutional differences.

What have we now? Lesser sons of greater sires.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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I don't know what he is, real or troll. The problem is that he does represent Republicans, very real ones. Once there were leaders in the party I could respect. Some intellectuals I could understand and agreement wasn't necessary. Look at the video of Truman Capote and William Buckley discussing the death penalty and recall that wasn't some academic concern, Capote was personally involved with the people in the case and wrote "In Cold Blood".

People really should watch this.


Two people a universe apart in worldview and ideology. But they sat down and actually talked, discussed, communicated intelligently.

No such thing exists now. Indeed I don't know if any but a vanishingly small number of people can duplicate this process of reasonable and thoughtful discussion with people who do not like each other, don't see alike in many things, but realize that the topic has merit beyond individual or institutional differences.

What have we now? Lesser sons of greater sires.
Agreed completely. Whatever semblance of the Republican party has long since left the building. Some went more extreme to the Tea Party, some jumped the aisle to the Dem side, and I guess the rest retired. I'm sure the same could be said of the Dems to some extent, but not nearly as bad. Maybe they're just behind the curve, and we'll end up with a Trump-esque Democratic nominee next cycle.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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That doesn't play out like you want it. Nunes and Gowdy and a great many Republicans have intentionally diverted from Russians to unmasking. They sat there on the committee and challenged witness in an effort to do just that. Nunes snuck out to inform a potential person of interest in what was happening. The Mayor of London was in the midst if dealing with one the worst acts of terrorism in their history and says to his people that police are armed and that should not concern them. Trump attacked IN THE MIDDLE OF A TERRORIST SITUATION by completely misrepresenting, no lying about what the Mayor said. Finally some Republicans stood up and said "over the top" and they'll be defending Trump when Comey testifies.

If it isn't crazy it's an ugly and vile party.

After all that? Trump's approval rating among Republicans? 82%

You don't know your party like you think you do.


Trumpism defies reality. It's built on decades of right wing agitprop that has defied reality all along. In embracing the dog eat dog ideology of the financial elite conservatives forgot that they're among the little dogs getting eaten.

So let's gut social spending, the ACA, EPA, education & you name it so we can spend more on the military & give tax cuts to billionaires whose lifestyles won't change nearly as much as the millions of Americans taking the high hard one so that it can happen.

So it goes when greed is considered to be the ultimate virtue.
 

Azuma Hazuki

Golden Member
Jun 18, 2012
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This is the result of the Democrats' cowardly betrayal of the working class after McGovern lost in '72, which set the stage for that senile goddamn clownshoe Reagan in '80...and then three and a half decades of his twisted, voodoo trickle-down bullshit. That is why we're in this situation, because politicians have been on the side of big money and no one else for 45 years.
 
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Roflmouth

Golden Member
Oct 5, 2015
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Too much to unpack there with your last two comments.

The creepiest part is you are very well spoken for a Trumpbot but a Trumpbot you are.

If you see only hysteria on the Dem side you are woefully ill equipped to do anything but stroke your life-size cardboard cut-out of Trump and assuring it that the meanies will one day pay.

They "paid" when their queen was denied the White House. HTH
 

Roflmouth

Golden Member
Oct 5, 2015
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Trumpism defies reality. It's built on decades of right wing agitprop that has defied reality all along. In embracing the dog eat dog ideology of the financial elite conservatives forgot that they're among the little dogs getting eaten.

People with talent, agency, and an actual work ethic refuse to be eaten, though I can see how such attributes confuse you.
 

Roflmouth

Golden Member
Oct 5, 2015
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I don't know what he is, real or troll. The problem is that he does represent Republicans, very real ones. Once there were leaders in the party I could respect.

LOL, sure. You've never respected Republicans and never could if you lived to be a billion. Better luck next time.
 

VRAMdemon

Diamond Member
Aug 16, 2012
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Lol..Four top law firms reportedly turned down requests to represent President Trump in the investigation into ties between his administration and Russia.

... lawyers reportedly said they were concerned Trump would make public statements against their legal advice that hurt his position in the investigation.
“The concerns were, ‘The guy won’t pay and he won’t listen,’ ” one lawyer close to the White House told Yahoo.

Wow. You know you're no good when even lawyers want nothing to do with you.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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LOL, sure. You've never respected Republicans and never could if you lived to be a billion. Better luck next time.

Interesting. Now you have psychic powers. I'm politically agnostic. I don't care for any party, but I can respect individuals who belong to many schools of thought even if I disagree. If they can clearly present their case in a rational way based on some reasonable reality then I can appreciate that.

You wouldn't be among them or if you are you do not demonstrate a well ordered and thoughtful mind. Doesn't matter though does it? It's not like you have any power to influence an issue and most likely live an unfulfilled life where you feel out of control and continually wronged. A social outcast, you try to make people "see" you on the internet but you can't imagine you will be taken seriously so you troll, thinking yourself clever for it, but you are naked, blind, deaf, and wholly wretched.

I too can read minds.
 
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alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Show proof that they were released by Russia? Show proof that the RNC was hacked? Proof, not "we think so"..

several private security companies and all of our intelligence agencies have confirmed it as FACT.

you aren't going to get the proof that you supposedly require, not that you required any proof for all the witch hunts against Obama.

you're just another partisan hack Comrade.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Agreed completely. Whatever semblance of the Republican party has long since left the building. Some went more extreme to the Tea Party, some jumped the aisle to the Dem side, and I guess the rest retired. I'm sure the same could be said of the Dems to some extent, but not nearly as bad. Maybe they're just behind the curve, and we'll end up with a Trump-esque Democratic nominee next cycle.

A lot became independent and complained about both sides as opposed to trying to reform or keep the party from turing into the shit show it is now.
 
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alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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The Mexican government did more to influence the 2016 election than the Russians. Mexico was sending money and human resources to enable Mexican nationals to become eligible to vote against Trump. Where is the story about that?

there is no story because it's a bullshit conspiracy.
 

WHAMPOM

Diamond Member
Feb 28, 2006
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The fact that you hate Democrats more than hostile foreign powers just shows how sick American conservatism has become.
Better to reign in Hell then serve in Heaven conservative mind set explains a lot now don't it?
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Lol..Four top law firms reportedly turned down requests to represent President Trump in the investigation into ties between his administration and Russia.



Wow. You know you're no good when even lawyers want nothing to do with you.
What goes around comes around.. One slice of fresh karma coming up..
 
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