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Roflmouth

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there is no story because it's a bullshit conspiracy.

Yeah, it's not like the left would spend hundreds of millions of dollars arguing in court that minorities are too stupid to get photo IDs, thus making such voter ID laws illegal.
 

WHAMPOM

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We can't go back in time, at best we can only learn what they did in a technical sense to try and mitigate it in the future and in an operational sense as a private lessons learned the Gov election committee can give to actual campaigns.



Sure, agreed.



We already sanctioned Putin. If Russia really did sabotage the US election (actually, not try and find out how voting machines worked or paid Flynn a not under the stable sum to be at an interview Putin was at), we can sanction them more, sure. Of course, if that's true it means Putin returned our Crimea sanction favors with a compromised election favor. Putin has: Crimea, a divided US thx to butthurt Media/Dems. We have: Butthurt Media/Dems. Sanctioning Putin doesn't seem to have paid off well for US if actually true.



I'm not sure we have a POTUS who admires Putin. I say that because I don't know what Trump believes at any given time, and I doubt anyone but Trump does either. I doubt even Trump knows what he's thinking sometimes. If extending an olive branch of respect to Putin gets us a solved Syria allowing a Crush ISIS focus, I'm fine with that. We can always piss Putin off later.



Sure, we can stand with Allies. But Allies first need to stand for themselves. We're not an Ally if we're spending massive amounts of treasure to play World Cop so our Allies can blow money on not their Mil because we're doing it like World Suckers; and Yes, I know we already blow massive amounts of treasure on the Mil all on our own. The point being, EU needs to be able to take RU on by themselves. Not paper take them on, not super authoritative EU tone we're meeting our Mil obligation words take them on, but, actually in Reality be able to take them on. They need to be able to take them on to the degree that RU doesn't doubt that EU can in fact take them on without US, but that in fact the US is simply and Ally that will a.) arrive in the UE in x number of hours to deliver round x of additional hurt on them and b.) will be able to open fronts against them on our own in support of our EU Allies. But, that's not the reality. The Reality is, the EU is more than happy to let sucker Uncle Sugar play Captain America. I don't consider that good faith Allies, and those aren't people standing with US, they're standing behind US. Trump is right to not let them off the hook, and they're whining and pushing back because they know if they have to drop many Billions on their Mil, that's many Billions they have to either deficit spend, tax their already heavily taxed people/businesses, or cut those sweet social services. Those become hard Political decisions, and we all know, Politicians don't like making those, especially when no matter what they do, come election time, their decisions will be used against them.



So you're saying remove the sitting Gov of Russia? That's not going to go over well...you've seen that War Games movie from the 80's right?



Beats me, that's what I'm asking. So far the most realistic thing I've heard is more sanctions. Good luck on any Syria cooperation. Maybe it's more important to us politically to make the stance that we're going to sanction Russia for what will need to be clear evidence of election tampering over the well being of Syria.



Oh, there is no doubt the Media/Dems are milking OMG Russia for all it's worth LOL. That's foregone. When they rolled out the OMG Russia! in response to the WikiLeaks (100% accuracy record, despite your stance on what they leak and when) and just decided not to cover anything in there (their level of coverage was either so minimal, and/or so obfuscated, as to render it a 'not cover' rating in my book), and that excuse took without almost any peep, well, they had their narrative. We'll have total hysteria from the Media/Dems until Trump is out, it's literally the only thing they can do. Trumpghazi for the next 2 years.



Well, that's what we're constantly told at least by the same Media stumping for Billary...make of that what you will. Right now Putin isn't causing chaos though, the Media/Dems and Reps are causing chaos, along with Trump. The Elites have their hand up the Sheeples waste maker and the Sheeple are razzle dazzled by the Media's lips flapping. It'd be nice to correct that, but, Trumpghazi!



You say this like every other Politician who's elected POTUS isn't. Billary was going to better it this regard?! Hahhahahahaha!!! No. Billary was simple a far more politically polished, read: rehearsed, Trump - that's it. Same bought and paid for. Same no original thoughts. Same ventriloquist act, just with strings that were far more invisible and were made to operate nice and smoothly be world class political operators (those folks aren't out political operating for you and me). But Trump!



Because the Reps don't want him having any real control either. You've got a.) Dems using whatever power they have to marginalize him, b.) Reps stealthily using their power to marginalize him to the degree they need to maintain control, c.) entrenched Fed workers Resist!'ing, and of course, d.) heartbroken over Billary Media. No POTUS, especially one that has no real political power before this, can withstand that type of constant backstabbing (sorry: leaks). Shit, Bummer had the entire Dem party on his side, along with the Media, and he was mostly marginalized (and given the huge wave of Media hyped frenzy he was carried in with, that is truly something). The only good thing we can hope for is a left leaning SC justice has to step down and we get another conservative (not a bible thumping one) on the SC. I'm out the next day minimum, catch your reply later...


Did some one hit your erudite button or did you just find a conservative propaganda think tank site to drag and drop.
 

Younigue

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They "paid" when their queen was denied the White House. HTH
Yet that doesn't seem to be enough for you hateful ugly bunch. Your hate hasn't been soothed one bit. Guess there's no light bright enough to penetrate your dark souls.
 

HTFOff

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Woman overcome by Trump Derangement Syndrome; ruins her professional career and will spend prime years of her life in the booty house.




It will be interesting to find out if The Intercept was the only outlet she sought to give the classified info to.

If she passed on NYT, WaPo et al. - OR they took it and sat on the info. I don't think they would sit on the info - regardless of the redundant notion that russians, china, n. korea having been trying to compromise our voting systems for years.

Clearly she's an extremely impressionable person so she'll sing to save her own ass.

And let's not gloss over when Obama told putin to "cut it out" - russian tampering ceased immediately.

Obama lied Reality cried.

 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Lol..Four top law firms reportedly turned down requests to represent President Trump in the investigation into ties between his administration and Russia.



Wow. You know you're no good when even lawyers want nothing to do with you.

the Yahoo article and the same issue has some pretty damning info...

"The lawyers and their firms cited a variety of factors in choosing not to take on the president as a client. Some, like Brendan Sullivan, said they had upcoming trials or existing commitments that would make it impossible for them to devote the necessary time and resources to Trump’s defense.

Others mentioned potential conflicts with clients of their firms, such as financial institutions that have already received subpoenas relating to potential money-laundering issues that are part of the investigation."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/four-top-law-firms-turned-requests-represent-trump-122423972.html
 

interchange

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Would these be the same intelligence agencies that said it was a FACT that Iraq had WMDs?

This is very far from analogous. There is consensus among intelligence agencies as well as multiple independent cybersecurity firms as to the source of the attack, and Putin himself has been bold enough to state that a patriotic Russian could have pulled off the hack.

It is OK to be skeptical, but operating from a stance of denying that Russia orchestrated the hacks is absurd.
 
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HTFOff

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wtf was that crazy.

Translation: This is my shitpost safe space. WAH!

No sir, I will not aquiesce to your urge to shitpost safely.

You will shitpost with the other kids just like everyone else.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Good profile on Reality Winner. I almost want to feel bad for her--she's clearly intelligent on some level (speaks Farsi, Dari, and Pashto) and was inspired to serve her country. She could've become a great asset to the intelligence agencies with a great career. But she did a stupid, stupid thing and it was completely self-serving, and she'll never work for the government again. She deserves everything that's coming to her. I hate the dickwad, but Jason Chaffetz was right--there's a proper channel for whistleblowers to use--except there was no whistleblowing needed here.

I hate the way the right-wing media is portraying her--SHE'S A BERNIE SUPPORTER! SHE SAID MEAN THINGS ABOUT TRUMP!!! There's a real good chance that good, smart people working in government who wouldn't normally care for partisan politics are being forced to choose sides, and some will do stupid things to "resist" that could jeopardize their jobs, or worse, jeopardize our national security. There won't be any sympathy for those that do the latter.
 

FIVR

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but if she was not attractive but capable who gives a fuck, right?


You sound like a misogynist. Does it bother you that she is attractive and capable, and holds a position of trust?


Typical of conservatives, you don't respect women and resent their success. Sad.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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While I feel there is value in the public knowing about something like this, there is also a reason why these kinds of reports are classified. It's so that whoever we are investigating - in this case, Russia - won't know what we know about what they did and what they're up to.

The bottom line is, the law is the law. I might lean toward a lower end prison term for this, say 2-3 years, but I don't see any argument for her getting off scot free.
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Good profile on Reality Winner. I almost want to feel bad for her--she's clearly intelligent on some level (speaks Farsi, Dari, and Pashto) and was inspired to serve her country. She could've become a great asset to the intelligence agencies with a great career. But she did a stupid, stupid thing and it was completely self-serving, and she'll never work for the government again. She deserves everything that's coming to her. I hate the dickwad, but Jason Chaffetz was right--there's a proper channel for whistleblowers to use--except there was no whistleblowing needed here.

I hate the way the right-wing media is portraying her--SHE'S A BERNIE SUPPORTER! SHE SAID MEAN THINGS ABOUT TRUMP!!! There's a real good chance that good, smart people working in government who wouldn't normally care for partisan politics are being forced to choose sides, and some will do stupid things to "resist" that could jeopardize their jobs, or worse, jeopardize our national security. There won't be any sympathy for those that do the latter.

Sounds like you've really gotten in touch with Reality here.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Sounds like you've really gotten in touch with Reality here.
With a name like hers, I'm sure in 10 years we'll be seeing her exploits on VH1, E!, Bravo, TLC etc...or perhaps Dancing With The Stars. Maybe Snowden, Chelsea Manning and Reality can cohost a "Hack/Leak But Don't Get Caught!" gameshow??
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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With a name like hers, I'm sure in 10 years we'll be seeing her exploits on VH1, E!, Bravo, TLC etc...or perhaps Dancing With The Stars. Maybe Snowden, Chelsea Manning and Reality can cohost a "Hack/Leak But Don't Get Caught!" gameshow??

No, please, not another Reality show!
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Translation: This is my shitpost safe space. WAH!

No sir, I will not aquiesce to your urge to shitpost safely.

You will shitpost with the other kids just like everyone else.

your idea of reality is that it is a shitpost, ok comrade.

there are even articles about your bullshit...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-persistence-of-trump-derangement-syndrome

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/the-trump-derangement-syndrome-dodge/527154/
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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This is very far from analogous. There is consensus among intelligence agencies as well as multiple independent cybersecurity firms as to the source of the attack, and Putin himself has been bold enough to state that a patriotic Russian could have pulled off the hack.

It is OK to be skeptical, but operating from a stance of denying that Russia orchestrated the hacks is absurd.

Trumpism is absurd. Figure it out from there.
 
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OutHouse

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You sound like a misogynist. Does it bother you that she is attractive and capable, and holds a position of trust?


Typical of conservatives, you don't respect women and resent their success. Sad.


you fail at reading. good job in sexualizing her you idiot.
 
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Younigue

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When treason is afoot (within the Administration, including the KumTwat) patriotism takes on a whole other meaning. It should for everyone.
 
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