Feds issue 4k orders to take guns from people who shouldn't have them

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mdram

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oh no real numbers!

http://freebeacon.com/issues/usa-today-misleads-fbi-gun-retrieval-requests/

Since 2012, the publicly available reports posted on the FBI's website show the number of firearms retrieval requests the FBI sent to the ATF have fluctuated between 2,500 and 4,000.

In 2012, the FBI made 3,722 requests. In 2013, they made 3,375 requests. In 2014, they made 2,511. In 2015, they made 2,892. In 2016, as USA Today reported, they made 4,170.

While 2016's total represents an increase over recent years, it does not represent a record. The FBI made 5,056 firearms retrieval requests to the ATF, the most ever, in 2000.
 

zinfamous

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oh no real numbers!

http://freebeacon.com/issues/usa-today-misleads-fbi-gun-retrieval-requests/

Since 2012, the publicly available reports posted on the FBI's website show the number of firearms retrieval requests the FBI sent to the ATF have fluctuated between 2,500 and 4,000.

In 2012, the FBI made 3,722 requests. In 2013, they made 3,375 requests. In 2014, they made 2,511. In 2015, they made 2,892. In 2016, as USA Today reported, they made 4,170.

While 2016's total represents an increase over recent years, it does not represent a record. The FBI made 5,056 firearms retrieval requests to the ATF, the most ever, in 2000.

So, by your real numbers, republican administrations grab more of our guns than do democratic administrations. Who knew?!
 

mdram

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So, by your real numbers, republican administrations grab more of our guns than do democratic administrations. Who knew?!

republican administrations enforce the laws

edit: as most gun owners say "We dont need new laws, we need to enforce the ones we have"
 

FerrelGeek

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My problem is that I don't trust the current incarnation of dems. There's noting hypocritical about that. You don't trust reps either, so we're even. But to this case in point, if this had come to light under the Obama admin and it was adequately explained, I'd be ok with it in spite of my general suspicions. Case in point, I wasn't one of the people that freaked out over the Jade Helm thing, even though the scenario still bugged me at a minor level. In short, I have a healthy distrust of our government regardless of who's in change.

I have less problem with what you said vs what ivy said. The impetus for my initial response was the hypocrisy accusation. I'm by no means anywhere near perfect, but I do try to be consistent in how I evaluate things.

Oh no, I clearly grasp the difference and we both seem to support effective application of background checks. The best part of your response, however, is that you freely admit that this very same enforcement would be a problem for you if there was a democrat in charge, because you seem to assume that they are going to "goose the database" because that's what your handlers have been pushing into your conservative skull for decades now.

You're basically supporting my thesis in this thread:

"Of course this is great, now; and of course I would have a problem with this same thing if a democrat did this thing that I claim is great!"
 

SNC

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More like pointing out your hypocrisy.
In your haste to be the smarter guy in the room you failed to read the post I was replying to. I was referring to what zinfamous said he did in his response, not to what Trump did.
Perhaps I wasn't clear or perhaps you just needed someone to beat up on so you felt better. Either way, when you ask yourself why we are where we are, grab a mirror.
 
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