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BoomerD

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Ok, so per your suggestions here, I switched from the Gigabyte PSU to an MSI one.

I left the SSD as is for now. I saw I can save about $40-60 getting a 4.0, but I’m seeing that 5.0 doubles the data transfer rate from 2GB per lane to 4GB. Even if it’s overkill right now, like I said, I want this thing to last a long time, and eventually down the road, it will come in useful. I’m willing to spend the extra $ for that.

I also switched from the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI to the MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI, as the only difference I see in the specs is the Tomahawk has 6 SATA 6.0, and the Gaming Plus has 4 SATA. But with that, I did have a question about that, and two other things:

1) Since the NVMe plugs into the PCIe slot, what would I even be using the SATA connections for? Would it only be if I hooked up one of my SATA hard drives for a backup drive or extra storage, or does anything else connect to them?

2) Does NVMe plug into the PCIe x 16 slot? If so, looks like between the video card and the NVMe drive, that would take up both the PCIe x16 slots on this board?

3) Since the RAM sticks I was going to get are now out of stock, I wasn’t sure whether to get one or the other of these 2? I mean I can get literally double the RAM for about $30 more. So, 32GB at 30 CAS latency, or 64GB at 40 CAS latency for $40 more?

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NVMe drives will plug into their own M.2 sockets on the motherboard. They run on dedicated PCIe lanes.


I'd highly recommend going with a Corsair, Seasonic, or SuperFlower Leadex power supply. They're the best in the biz. While a PSU isn't a "sexy" component like a motherboard or GPU, look at it as the beating heart of your PC. It needs to be strong and reliable...
If you're going with the MSI B650 board...save the money on the Gen 5.0 and get 4.0. The board doesn't support the Gen 5.0 speeds.

  • Lightning Fast Game experience: PCIe 4.0 slots, Lightning Gen 4 x4 M.2 with M.2 Shield Frozr, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 20G
 

ascendant

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Typically you want to install the m.2 in the top most slot closest to the CPU. Same for the GPU. RAM in slots 2 and 4. Make sure you install the 24 pin, both 8 pin EPS connectors from the PSU. CPU fan should plug into the CPU_FAN header.

I'm a big proponent of building the PC outside of the case first so you can test everything and make sure it works before putting it in the case. Build it on top of the motherboard box.
So, I have a question. This CPU cooling fan uses 2 power plugs. There's the "CPU Fan" plug that I of course have one fan plugged into, but the other two near it are "Pump Fan" and "Sys fan." From what I'm seeing online, I should get a splitter for it to plug both into the sam CPU fan plug (to keep both the same speeds). But for now, what would you suggest?

Also, what is the name of a splitter for that kind of power plug?
 

BoomerD

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So, I have a question. This CPU cooling fan uses 2 power plugs. There's the "CPU Fan" plug that I of course have one fan plugged into, but the other two near it are "Pump Fan" and "Sys fan." From what I'm seeing online, I should get a splitter for it to plug both into the sam CPU fan plug (to keep both the same speeds). But for now, what would you suggest?

Also, what is the name of a splitter for that kind of power plug?
I don’t remember what cooler/ fan solution you finally went with, so bear with me…

That cooler Should have come with a “Y” connector for two fans into one header.

If yours originally came with 3 pin fans and the fans are 4 pin…


There are cheaper “non-Noctua” versions off that. Just a “4 pin fan splitter” is what you want.

If your fans are ARGB, then you need to connect the appropriate plug(s) to the ARGB connections on the motherboard. There are extension and “daisy chaining” cables available for that as well.
 
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So, I have a question. This CPU cooling fan uses 2 power plugs. There's the "CPU Fan" plug that I of course have one fan plugged into, but the other two near it are "Pump Fan" and "Sys fan." From what I'm seeing online, I should get a splitter for it to plug both into the sam CPU fan plug (to keep both the same speeds). But for now, what would you suggest?

Also, what is the name of a splitter for that kind of power plug?
The peerless assassin should have come with a splitter. From the installation manual.

 
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bigboxes

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dodo bird. USB / DL direct and install from drive. Or if you really need an optical drive get an external one. They tend to not be in use these days for most people. I haven't had one inside a system in at least a decade.
Agree with you on that. You don't need an optical drive these days unless you have a ton of legacy games. You already are ahead of the curve on that.

However, I think Intel introduced consumer SATA SSDs in 2008. Probably became the standard around 2010/2011 for anyone building a new rig. The big difference, besides boot times, will be "feel". It's like a magnitude better in terms of performance. Not only will you boot to desktop in 20 seconds or so, but apps will open almost immediately compared to your experience with a hard drive. The difference will be noticeable. You'll probably have this big shit eating grin on your face when you first experience it. Have fun!
 
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ascendant

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Agree with you on that. You don't need an optical drive these days unless you have a ton of legacy games. You already are ahead of the curve on that.

However, I think Intel introduced consumer SATA SSDs in 2008. Probably became the standard around 2010/2011 for anyone building a new rig. The big difference, besides boot times, will be "feel". It's like a magnitude better in terms of performance. Not only will you boot to desktop in 20 seconds or so, but apps will open almost immediately compared to your experience with a hard drive. The difference will be noticeable. You'll probably have this big shit eating grin on your face when you first experience it. Have fun!
I don’t remember what cooler/ fan solution you finally went with, so bear with me…

That cooler Should have come with a “Y” connector for two fans into one header.

If yours originally came with 3 pin fans and the fans are 4 pin…


There are cheaper “non-Noctua” versions off that. Just a “4 pin fan splitter” is what you want.

If your fans are ARGB, then you need to connect the appropriate plug(s) to the ARGB connections on the motherboard. There are extension and “daisy chaining” cables available for that as well.
Thanks, and it did have the y connector. I just overlooked it at at first.

I did have just one last question now. As far as the GPU, I see that you hook it up to the power cables labeled PCIe (the ones with the 6-ports with the additional 2-port one that plugs in next to it). But, each cord I have has two of the PCIe cables at the end of it. So, should I hook both of them up to the same PCIe cord since it splits at the end, or would it be preferable power-wise to hook two separate ones up to the GPU directly to the PSU for each individual one (so that the GPU basically has two separate PCIe cords going to the PSU from it)?
 

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The peerless assassin should have come with a splitter. From the installation manual.

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Well, I got everything hooked up, but for some reason, the GPU doesn't seem to be working. I tried two different plugs in the back of it, I checked the cables, and it's just not doing anything. The weird thing is the fans on it aren't spinning, but when I power it off, there's a red light that flashes real quick on the GPU as it powers down. So, it's definitely getting power, just for some reason, it's not working.

I connected it to the PSU on the "PCIe" connections. I don't really know what to do at this point?
 

ascendant

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Disregard the last post. I wasted 2hrs testing various things out, all to realize I didn't plug the CPU power in. I can't believe I overlooked that, lol. Been 20+yrs since I built one though.

Anyway, all seems to be working great now. This thing is absurdly fast compared to my current PC I'm replacing with it.

I really, really appreciate everyone's help on here. Saved me a lot of time and effort.
 
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Thanks, and it did have the y connector. I just overlooked it at at first.

I did have just one last question now. As far as the GPU, I see that you hook it up to the power cables labeled PCIe (the ones with the 6-ports with the additional 2-port one that plugs in next to it). But, each cord I have has two of the PCIe cables at the end of it. So, should I hook both of them up to the same PCIe cord since it splits at the end, or would it be preferable power-wise to hook two separate ones up to the GPU directly to the PSU for each individual one (so that the GPU basically has two separate PCIe cords going to the PSU from it)?
Some people don't believe in using the pigtails of PCIe power plugs. If you have a quality PSU with good cables, you should be done to use a single PCIe power cable with the pigtail to provide the second plug on the GPU (good companies use heavier gauge wire from the PSU to the first connector).
 
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