Feetzballer Kaepernick 'protests inequality' at preseason game

[Sulaco]

Didn't read this thread, but I always thought it was funny the land of the free forces its kids to pledge allegiance.

You should probably try and stay current on what you speak before looking the daft fool.
Students in public schools have not been "forced" to participate in the pledge for years.

 

[Vic]

You should probably try and stay current on what you speak before looking the daft fool.
Students in public schools have not been "forced" to participate in the pledge for years.

This is correct. Schools in most states are required by law to provide students with a daily opportunity to recite the pledge, but SCOTUS ruled that students could not be forced to recite the pledge way back in 1943.
Incidentally, it was the Jehovahs Witnesses who pushed for that. Under the Nazis, thousands of German JWs had been sent to concentration camps for refusing to salute the Nazi flag.

 

[agent00f]

CK is an employee of a private corporation. Based on the Brady appeals court ruling, Goodell has unlimited power to suspend players. Not that Goodell will risk suspensions. It comes down to balancing public relations of outraged fans, and the risk of more players taking a similar stand. Which is starting to spread by way.

Your analogy falls far short, because you are comparing public schools to private corporations. Any one working in a private company can say what they want, and supposedly won't be jailed. No protections from a disagreeing employer firing an employee. Courts have already ruled that public school students are not required to pledge allegiance. But maybe you are not current with court rulings.

Depends on whether his contract is in a jurisdiction where cause is necessary. I don't particularly care about this guy, but the general attitude of punishing someone for not being patriotic enough in a completely unrelated job is rather pathetic.

You should probably try and stay current on what you speak before looking the daft fool.
Students in public schools have not been "forced" to participate in the pledge for years.

Sure, if someone wants to be seen as edgy and disrespectful by your crowd as this topic attests to, which may have IRL consequences for students. Better to just mouth the words since they're not legally binding anyway.

 

[wirelessenabled]

fuck him.

Reading this thread makes me fear for our democracy. It is very obvious that many of the posters have not bothered to read our Constitution and have no clue about what it entails to make a democracy thrive or even survive.

Article 1 is free speech. Why would anyone have a problem with that? Sure you can disagree with the ideas but the notion of feeling as if someone's free speech should be suppressed is an anathema to a real democracy.

Good on Kaepernick. He is using his First Amendment rights and risking something for it at the same time.

What have most of the jerkoffs in this forum risked?

 

[fskimospy]

I like how the cops are threatening not to provide security for games because Kaepernick hurt their feelings. I guess it's comfortable in a way to know that the police on the west coast are every bit as thin-skinned as the police on the east coast.

As someone else mentioned, what percentage of the cops who want to boycott games because Kaepernick sat down do you think view trigger warnings and safe spaces at college with total contempt? My guess is close to 100%.

 

[HomerJS]

Do the police realize they represent the government? They are about to infringe on CK's right to free speech.

 

[senseamp]

American police are still in complete denial that they have a problem, so they expect us to shut up about it.

 

[cubby1223]

Good on Kaepernick. He is using his First Amendment rights and risking something for it at the same time.

What have most of the jerkoffs in this forum risked?

Kaepernick is risking the possibility of not moving up to an ultra-mega-millionaire from just a mega-millionaire. Not exactly a risk common people care about in the least. I've made far greater risks than that in my life.

 

[TheGardener]

Depends on whether his contract is in a jurisdiction where cause is necessary. I don't particularly care about this guy, but the general attitude of punishing someone for not being patriotic enough in a completely unrelated job is rather pathetic.

I'll agree that contracts matter. But that was my point.

 

[JSt0rm]

Kaepernick is risking the possibility of not moving up to an ultra-mega-millionaire from just a mega-millionaire. Not exactly a risk common people care about in the least. I've made far greater risks than that in my life.

Oh do tell about these great life risks you boldly made...

 

[JSt0rm]

I like how the cops are threatening not to provide security for games because Kaepernick hurt their feelings. I guess it's comfortable in a way to know that the police on the west coast are every bit as thin-skinned as the police on the east coast.

As someone else mentioned, what percentage of the cops who want to boycott games because Kaepernick sat down do you think view trigger warnings and safe spaces at college with total contempt? My guess is close to 100%.

Its not a safe space if its what they believe.

 

[MrSquished]

not a Kap fan from a football perspective but he's been handling this quite well. Addressing his respect for the troops when many questioned that. Donating money to charity. Clarifying his position clearly. Then you have these Santa Clara cops threatening to abandon their duty because they want to act like little kids.

I read a statement from a veteran who said during an interview within the last couple of days that for approximately 1200 killings by police in the last year there were no charges (or was it murder charges) that were successfully prosecuted. Would like to see that fact checked.

 

[Ackmed]

As usual, a lot of ignorant people on here. The police would not be infringing on Caps or anyone else's rights. Working these games is an extra job for the police. Not their normal duties. It's performed when they're "off" duty and making extra money. It's Caps right to sit, it's their right to not work it. You can't support him and not them unless being hypocritical, which also isn't common around here.

 

[MrSquished]

As usual, a lot of ignorant people on here. The police would not be infringing on Caps or anyone else's rights. Working these games is an extra job for the police. Not their normal duties. It's performed when they're "off" duty and making extra money. It's Caps right to sit, it's their right to not work it. You can't support him and not them unless being hypocritical, which also isn't common around here.

appreciate the clarity. It's still acting like babies either way.

 

[Chaotic42]

I like how the cops are threatening not to provide security for games because Kaepernick hurt their feelings. I guess it's comfortable in a way to know that the police on the west coast are every bit as thin-skinned as the police on the east coast.

Yeah, there's no excuse for that. Kaepernick is a jackass, but

I like how the cops are threatening not to provide security for games because Kaepernick hurt their feelings. I guess it's comfortable in a way to know that the police on the west coast are every bit as thin-skinned as the police on the east coast.

As someone else mentioned, what percentage of the cops who want to boycott games because Kaepernick sat down do you think view trigger warnings and safe spaces at college with total contempt? My guess is close to 100%.

Serious question, what exactly is a safe space?

 

[MrSquished]

Serious question, what exactly is a safe space?

the amount of space between a Trump voter and their ability to reach the lever. The farther away it is the safer the space.

 

[stlc8tr]

As usual, a lot of ignorant people on here. The police would not be infringing on Caps or anyone else's rights. Working these games is an extra job for the police. Not their normal duties. It's performed when they're "off" duty and making extra money. It's Caps right to sit, it's their right to not work it. You can't support him and not them unless being hypocritical, which also isn't common around here.

One complication is that the Niners might not be able to hire other officers to work the game as it may conflict with the union contract. If that's the case, they will have to make do with fewer officers.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...ay-Boycott-Working-49ers-Games-392214541.html

According to the union, about one-third of the officers who work during 49ers games are from other Bay Area law enforcement departments. If Santa Clara's police officers refuse to work, others officers might be hired. But, Saunders said, that may create a conflict with the city’s contract with the police union.

 

[JSt0rm]

One complication is that the Niners might not be able to hire other officers to work the game as it may conflict with the union contract. If that's the case, they will have to make do with fewer officers.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loca...ay-Boycott-Working-49ers-Games-392214541.html

so is it off duty cops or not? We need to nationalize the police. Then we can get off this stupid merry go round of cop complexity.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

so is it off duty cops or not? We need to nationalize the police. Then we can get off this stupid merry go round of cop complexity.

Nationalizing the police would be a disaster. If you think they are unaccountable now just wait until they are part of the federal government.

 

[JSt0rm]

Nationalizing the police would be a disaster. If you think they are unaccountable now just wait until they are part of the federal government.

yes. the military is a fine example of what you are talking about.

 

[cubby1223]

Yeah, there's no excuse for that. Kaepernick is a jackass, but

Serious question, what exactly is a safe space?

A safe space is a designated area where minorities can relax and interact with other minorities, safely away from the traumatic presence of white people.

 

[cubby1223]

Kaepernick has decided to donate $1 million to charities. Must be pretty nice being privileged enough to have a spare million dollars lying around to give away in exchange for additional publicity!

 

[cubby1223]

I like how the cops are threatening not to provide security for games because Kaepernick hurt their feelings. I guess it's comfortable in a way to know that the police on the west coast are every bit as thin-skinned as the police on the east coast.

As someone else mentioned, what percentage of the cops who want to boycott games because Kaepernick sat down do you think view trigger warnings and safe spaces at college with total contempt? My guess is close to 100%.

Imagine an admin of Anandtech ran side banners on this website claiming how despicable a person fskimospy is. Would you continue to post on this forum with those banners up? Or would you choose to do something different with your time?

Don't pretend you're better than other people. You're just as hypocritical as everyone else.

 

[DeathReborn]

I object to the use of "feetzballer" as the ball pretty much never touches his feetz. Also he's a pratt and should be treated as such, if he can sit it out so can the cops. After all, equality.

 

[fskimospy]

Imagine an admin of Anandtech ran side banners on this website claiming how despicable a person fskimospy is. Would you continue to post on this forum with those banners up? Or would you choose to do something different with your time?

Don't pretend you're better than other people. You're just as hypocritical as everyone else.

The cops are threatening not to do their jobs because someone made them feel sad. Your example would be more akin to them not electing to buy a ticket, something no one would care about.

A good analogy for ATPN would be me not posting here anymore because there's a person with a weird fixation on me who shows up periodically to complain that I'm not living up to the august standards of an elite member. Much like me, the cops shouldn't care.